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[Bigblackted4]

Why?


What does Joshua, the guy who's supposedly way better than Wilder, gassing out early and not being able to finish an C+ fighter in Takam without a British stoppage, have to do with Wilder?


Isnt Joshua the better fighter yall claim? If anything, Wilder should do worse based upon The Coli narratives around here

While I do think Jousha would win, I think the level of performance is extremely close. I think people are mad at Jousha because he’s doing with the Cartel did to GGG but on a much lesser level. I think Jousha is getting unfair amounts of criticism for winning every round and giving a guy cuts on both eyes. Last fight Wilder fought in he got a KO but was losing to Gerald Washington 3-1. While I think he would have KOed Luis Ortiz he just haven’t proved anything to me.

 

[Newzz]

While I do think Jousha would win, I think the level of performance is extremely close. I think people are mad at Jousha because he’s doing with the Cartel did to GGG but on a much lesser level. I think Jousha is getting unfair amounts of criticism for winning every round and giving a guy cuts on both eyes. Last fight Wilder fought in he got a KO but was losing to Gerald Washington 3-1. While I think he would have KOed Luis Ortiz he just haven’t proved anything to me.

No, he wasn't....The Coli repeats this, but it's false.


The scores were 3-1 Wilder, 2-2 Tie, 2-2 Tie after 4 rounds on the 3 judges cards Fight Scorecard - Wilder vs Washington | February 25, 2017


However, that still has nothing to do with Joshua looking exhausted after winning every round and struggling to even finish the fight. There's no way any Joshua fan can come away impressed with what Joshua did vs that level of opponent imo

 

[Black_Jesus]

While I do think Jousha would win, I think the level of performance is extremely close. I think people are mad at Jousha because he’s doing with the Cartel did to GGG but on a much lesser level. I think Jousha is getting unfair amounts of criticism for winning every round and giving a guy cuts on both eyes. Last fight Wilder fought in he got a KO but was losing to Gerald Washington 3-1. While I think he would have KOed Luis Ortiz he just haven’t proved anything to me.

But he not doing what Canelo did to ggg in any way.. Canelo told ggg to meet him at 155.. ggg said no so then he had to wait and got a free belt in the process.. Canelo and Oscar didn't say "hay if you want to fight then you gotta come to the U.K. and beat Liam Smith... but oh if you beat Liam Smith we still not gonna guarantee you the fight

People are mad cause AJ is literally acting scared of Wilder

 

[Bigblackted4]

But he not doing what Canelo did to ggg in any way.. Canelo told ggg to meet him at 155.. ggg said no so then he had to wait and got a free belt in the process.. Canelo and Oscar didn't say "hay if you want to fight then you gotta come to the U.K. and beat Liam Smith... but oh if you beat Liam Smith we still not gonna guarantee you the fight

People are mad cause AJ is literally acting scared of Wilder

AJ is acting and probably is scared of Wilder in the same way that Canelo was scared of GGG which I thought was dumb in both cases. I can admit that AJ is acting scares or at best cautious but I also think Wilder is almost whoring his self out for a fight and his fans have resorted to trolling instead of waiting on a fight that will happen sooner rather than later.

 

[Newzz]

But he not doing what Canelo did to ggg in any way.. Canelo told ggg to meet him at 155.. ggg said no so then he had to wait and got a free belt in the process.. Canelo and Oscar didn't say "hay if you want to fight then you gotta come to the U.K. and beat Liam Smith... but oh if you beat Liam Smith we still not gonna guarantee you the fight

People are mad cause AJ is literally acting scared of Wilder

#Facts



It's also weird that Joshua wont pay any step aside fees to face the best challenger out there...........but if the situation was reversed, Wilder would be slandered day and night for facing lesser mandatory after lesser mandatory & telling Joshua he'll be ready by 2020



Ironic that The Ring, same The Ring that calls BJS a duck for hiding out in the UK with the belt instead of facing GGG, is cool with Joshua pulling the same tricks

 

[Bigblackted4]

No, he wasn't....The Coli repeats this, but it's false.


The scores were 3-1 Wilder, 2-2 Tie, 2-2 Tie after 4 rounds on the 3 judges cards Fight Scorecard - Wilder vs Washington | February 25, 2017


However, that still has nothing to do with Joshua looking exhausted after winning every round and struggling to even finish the fight. There's no way any Joshua fan can come away impressed with what Joshua did vs that level of opponent imo

Not impressed at all he looked out of shaped and had a bad game plan for the fighter he was fighting. He was also expecting to fight a bigger slower fighter which is why he bulked up a little more. Some people are making it seem like he was losing or even phased by the fight. He was tired, yes, but he was never in danger or had any damage done to him. He looked like he just had a sparring match with a guy who Joseph Parker went life and death with. Really by the way with the judge score card on that Wilder fight, you watched it and he looked bad in that fight getting out jabbed by Gerald Washington.

 

[Bigblackted4]

#Facts



It's also weird that Joshua wont pay any step aside fees to face the best challenger out there...........but if the situation was reversed, Wilder would be slandered day and night for facing lesser mandatory after lesser mandatory & telling Joshua he'll be ready by 2020



Ironic that The Ring, same The Ring that calls BJS a duck for hiding out in the UK with the belt instead of facing GGG, is cool with Joshua pulling the same tricks

BJS has had that belt for like 3 years over there he got that one decent win and his. If Jousha was to not fight Wilder next year that’s a Duck for sure.

 

[Newzz]

Not impressed at all he looked out of shaped and had a bad game plan for the fighter he was fighting. He was also expecting to fight a bigger slower fighter which is why he bulked up a little more. Some people are making it seem like he was losing or even phased by the fight. He was tired, yes, but he was never in danger or had any damage done to him. He looked like he just had a sparring match with a guy who Joseph Parker went life and death with. Really by the way with the judge score card on that Wilder fight, you watched it and he looked bad in that fight getting out jabbed by Gerald Washington.

Joseph Parker is also supposed to be levels beneath Joshua, so him having a competitive fight with a guy he didn't have the same advantages that Joshua had over (height, reach, size), doesn't mean much to me....Parker isn't that good to me, anyways.


Joshua, however, should've had a dominant performance vs an opponent Povetkin KOd. Instead, he would've went 12 with him without help from the British stoppage.



Wilder/Washington: We only had 5 rounds, and according to all the judges, Wilder was at worst tied after 4 and KOd him in the 5th.

 

[Newzz]

BJS has had that belt for like 3 years over there he got that one decent win and his. If Jousha was to not fight Wilder next year that’s a Duck for sure.

Ima hold you to this breh

 

[reservoirdogs]

Yea who knows ....these Cuban cats outside of Lara always make some questionable career decisions

outside of Lara?

Lara decided to not fight any decent opponent after he got his Canelo money...

ok he fought Martirosyan too, but that was a rematch and also not a particularly great fight

 

[Black_Jesus]

AJ is acting and probably is scared of Wilder in the same way that Canelo was scared of GGG which I thought was dumb in both cases. I can admit that AJ is acting scares or at best cautious but I also think Wilder is almost whoring his self out for a fight and his fans have resorted to trolling instead of waiting on a fight that will happen sooner rather than later.

But the difference is Canelo kept it real from day one.. Months before he fought Cotto he said he wasn't fighting at 160 for another 1 to 2 years, but fans either developed amnesia or were unable to accept what was said. Oscar also kept it real last year and guaranteed the fight will happen fall 2017, and that's what happened

We can barely even get AJ to say Wilder's name on his own.. Hearn bytchass ain't even willing to make one legit B-side offer for the biggest fight in the Heavyweight division that could be made

 

[Bigblackted4]

But the difference is Canelo kept it real from day one.. Months before he fought Cotto he said he wasn't fighting at 160 for another 1 to 2 years, but fans either developed amnesia or were unable to accept what was said. Oscar also kept it real last year and guaranteed the fight will happen fall 2017, and that's what happened

We can barely even get AJ to say Wilder's name on his own.. Hearn bytchass ain't even willing to make one legit B-side offer for the biggest fight in the Heavyweight division that could be made

AJ did say that the fight could happen in 2019 or 2020 but like I said there essentially making Wilder do all the promotion and begging. Like GGG did with Canelo just begging and pleading even saying he got punched more to make a fight. I also said if he doesn’t fight him in 2018 that’s a duck.

 

[HeruDat1]

sometimes i feel i need to go and move to the west coast just so i can eat off these fight cards like i want to

Another Call to Arms

 

[HeruDat1]

 

[Big Boss]