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[patscorpio]

- Morales should definitely get in the HOF this year. Hatton may have to wait, it is a pretty deep class. Goes back and forth but thinks Hatton gets in eventually.

Hatton should not get in

- Like watching the Charlo's fight and they are good guys even if they don't come off as such. Appreciates their emotion over fighting. Excellent fighters.
- The Charlo's aren't more popular because they don't have a promoter and they don't fight often enough. They also aren't very media friendly. He has always had good interactions with them and they are good fighters, but they have ways they could enhance their careers.

agree on all of this. if there are PBC fighters whose profiles should have been enhanced by PBC (i.e not fighting on Showtime) its these 2

- Tapia is shot and is mad that GB put him in another fight. Should call it quits.
- Rosado should retire as well.

its sad that ppl are in absolute denial that Tapia is a damaged young man..his IG is full of ppl thinking all he needs to do is tighten his defense ; Rosado while not outwardly showing alot of slippage has a lot of miles on him...the clottey fight was his real last hurrah..he will get hurt going after a top middle

- Hurd needs to sure up his defense, but he is entertaining to watch. Matchmaker Ron "Terdsak" Katz told him Hurd reminded him a bit of John Mugabi.

dont like that comparison

- Favorite in Lemieux vs. BJS? Lemieux.

for all his fault BJS can fight and can box..you cant take him lightly...if they build this card make take myself back up to montreal for it

- A PBC fight that has been rumored is Victor Ortiz vs. Josesito Lopez 2.

interesting

- If all these fighters are eligible, who gets in: Wlad, Floyd, Pacquiao, Bradley, and Cotto? Under current rules only 3, so Wlad, Floyd, and Pacquiao would get in.

agreed

- Jose Luis Castillo for the HOF? No.

agreed but that Dan goes hard on chico going in the HOF for some reason

- Was Tapia not that good to begin with or did Kirkland ruin his career? Could be a combination of both, but the Kirkland fight definitely ruined his career.

i only saw the one fight of Tapia pre kirkland and he looked like a rough around the edges prospect to me but Kirkland beat whatever promisiing future the kid had out of him

- Has tried to get in touch with Terrel Williams (post Colon fight) to see if he has any future career plans, but has had no luck.

he's prolly done for good

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

agreed but that Dan goes hard on chico going in the HOF for some reason

LOL, yeah. He went after it again this mailbag. I am not sure from reading his chats if he would vote him in or not, but what he does say is that with Chico's career it is crazy that he can't even get on the ballot one time.

 

[patscorpio]

LOL, yeah. He went after it again this mailbag. I am not sure from reading his chats if he would vote him in or not, but what he does say is that with Chico's career it is crazy that he can't even get on the ballot one time.

this is the arturo gatti effect; he unfortunately has become the baseline with his entry

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

this is the arturo gatti effect; he unfortunately has become the baseline with his entry

In some cases I don't have a problem with it and Gatti is one. It is the Hall of Fame, not just the Hall of Best Boxers Ever.
Gatti reached that HBO/Showtime level, not an A level fighter, but had his time where he was must watch TV because of his wars. He clearly had an impact with a big reach among the fans.

Chico never quite had the notoriety of Gatti, which is why I can understand the not getting in the HOF, but I can respect him getting on the ballot. His career earned that acknowledgement.

It also seems like people don't consider amateur careers enough to me. Dan has said he didn't think Rigo was a HOF'er yet. He has a victory vs. a HOF level fighter (Donaire) and one of the best amateur records ever. Rigo is a sure fire HOF'er to me. I think Dan is just hating because he hates Rigo.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I hate when boxing fukks over somebody, because it usually leads them to fukk over somebody else and the process repeats itself.

GGG was ducked for years and had to clean out a whole division full of C and B minus boxers in order to make a name for himself. Now that he finally came up, his people acting funny with a potential Big Charlo fight. I don't think he's done enough at 160 for an immediate fight, but if he were to beat another contender (one that isn't injured or etc..) then yeah I see no problem with GGG fighting him. Charlo is proven at 154. 160 is different so I can see where GGG people are coming from.

But the way they sounding, Charlo could actually earn the fight and they would still avoid dude.

 

[patscorpio]

In some cases I don't have a problem with it and Gatti is one. It is the Hall of Fame, not just the Hall of Best Boxers Ever.
Gatti reached that HBO/Showtime level, not an A level fighter, but had his time where he was must watch TV because of his wars. He clearly had an impact with a big reach among the fans.

Chico never quite had the notoriety of Gatti, which is why I can understand the not getting in the HOF, but I can respect him getting on the ballot. His career earned that acknowledgement.

It also seems like people don't consider amateur careers enough to me. Dan has said he didn't think Rigo was a HOF'er yet. He has a victory vs. a HOF level fighter (Donaire) and one of the best amateur records ever. Rigo is a sure fire HOF'er to me. I think Dan is just hating because he hates Rigo.

gatti had some wars and even some nice b level wins but i still dont think he was HOF material...Rigo has HOF potential but I dont think hes there yet either...dude hasnt fought enough

 

[The axe murderer]

Wanna see the whole match Video: Bellator MMA’s Michael Page wins pro boxing debut by third-round TKO

 

[Black_Jesus]

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@ChocolateGiddyUp they finna stall yall out breh

And if Canelo wins the WBC he'll drop it before giving Mall the mando

Canelo wins drops it, lets get Charlo vs Andrade for the vacant title

Nobody is dropping a belt to avoid Jermall

 

[The axe murderer]

 

[H.I.M.]

Prime Larry Holmes vs Prime Joe Frazier

Who you got winning that

Frazier.

He beat the real Ali...no reason why he shouldn't be able to handle his scaled down clone.

If a old Norton's swarming gave Holmes fits...if Terrible Tim's pressure gave Holmes fits...

Then Frazier should be able to take a clear decision over Holmes.

 

[H.I.M.]

Why has this dude never made a UFC roster?

Are the folks he whooping in Belator a bunch of bums or what?

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

at the overall fukkery of this short ass fight. Page is that dude, but his boxing style is like a mixture of RJJ,Hamed, and Augustus with a sprinkle of fukkery.

at those Hamed rocket uppercuts

at those Roy Jones like lead right hands

at the basketball dribbling.

 

[The axe murderer]

at the overall fukkery of this short ass fight. Page is that dude, but his boxing style is like a mixture of RJJ,Hamed, and Augustus with a sprinkle of fukkery.

at those Hamed rocket uppercuts

at those Roy Jones like lead right hands

at the basketball dribbling.

And lmmfao @ that pose at the end
The ref dragging him away from the scene of the crime

 

[The axe murderer]

Why has this dude never made a UFC roster?

Are the folks he whooping in Belator a bunch of bums or what?

He hasn't fought people of very high level top 10 caliber yet. That power is real though but a decent wrestler would give him fits. UFC would be a bit better as I think he potentially washes most of them on stand up but guys like maia would be a nightmare style for him.

 

[The axe murderer]