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you overvalue Swift's "star power" like crazy. There's not so many difference between the fame of these ww dudes as you think. Canelo as an example? Like Swift would be anywhere close to the level of Canelo's star power. :mjlol:

WBC said the winner of Porter vs Granados is the mandatory :umad:

If Garcia really wants that immediate rematch then yeah he should have fought Porter, he even should have called Porter on the phone cause otherwise he has to wait.:heh:

I never understood why Garcia has this bad habit of taking at least 2 soft touches after every tough fight he has... :francis:

Khan - old man Morales and old man Judah - Matthysse - Herrera who was meant as a gimme opponent on hi "homecoming" just turned out differently but the unintended tough fight lead to the softest touch ever, Salka - Peterson - Malignaggi, Guerrero, Samuel Vargas - Thurman - Rios...

Why this guy keeps doing this? He didn't even take that much damage against Thurman. No broken rib, no broke nose, injured leg, brutal KO loss, etc... just an UD loss

Let's keep it real, his ww resume is dogshyt, he could become a champion with beating a ridiculously over the hill Guerrero besides that he beat Samuel Vargas and Malignaggi. None of these fighters are eve top 10 in welter - well arguably 2 of them retired since - and arguably none of them were top 10 when he fought them either. Now he fights Rios who's also not a top 10 guy in ww,.
Garcia basically hasn't beaten any top 10 name in this division since he's there.

Peterson, a controversial win in catchweight is his best win AROUND welterweight but it wasn't even a true welterweight fight.

Rios might would be his best win at 147 :dead:





I really gotta bring up the numbers we all fukking kno ... that we've talked about time N time again...that proves me right:stopitslime:



I'll jus drop this lil nugget 850k on Showtime vs Rod Salka

Now go on Google N look up Showtime tv ratings for EVERYBODY since that fight N fukking tell me Danny Garcia ain't the draw I say he is...otherwise :camby:




Porter fighting on undercards .... but Danny Garcia is posed to be chasing him...calling him cuz you think a WBC ranking means something:pachaha:



All that other shyt I ain't even gonna bother discussing NOBODY talking bout resumes or close fights... the same nikka who was "bu bu bu but guys Lara N GGG fights were close :mjcry:"

wanna bring up Peterson :russ:
 

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I really gotta bring up the numbers we all fukking kno ... that we've talked about time N time again...that proves me right:stopitslime:



I'll jus drop this lil nugget 850k on Showtime vs Rod Salka

Now go on Google N look up Showtime tv ratings for EVERYBODY since that fight N fukking tell me Danny Garcia ain't the draw I say he is...otherwise :camby:




Porter fighting on undercards .... but Danny Garcia is posed to be chasing him...calling him cuz you think a WBC ranking means something:pachaha:



All that other shyt I ain't even gonna bother discussing NOBODY talking bout resumes or close fights... the same nikka who was "bu bu bu but guys Lara N GGG fights were close :mjcry:"

wanna bring up Peterson :russ:


He does good numbers I get it but he's far from handling stimulus packages and changing lives. He's no Floyd, he's no Canelo, he's probably not even GGG on star power level.

He could have an immediate rematch if he wanted to fight Porter, he didn't want to, end of story.

and you're not concerned at all that your fav fighter is in welterweight for 2 years already but hasn't beaten a single top 10 fighter there except if you wanna count shot ass Guerrero there?
oh but he draws though... Do you see anything from that money that you care about it so much? :yeshrug:

props for him for fighting Thurman but when the Rios fight is over he will have 4 other fights in welterweight none of them against a legit top 10 guy... why is that?

you said he can fight whoever he wants cause other fighters just fall in front of his knees for a payday but if that's true and he isn't the victim of the circumstances he's the one to blame for not fighting better guys. It's not even because of politics, he's with Haymon as most top names at ww are so he can fight everyone sans Pac and Jessie Vargas
 

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He does good numbers I get it but he's far from handling stimulus packages and changing lives. He's no Floyd, he's no Canelo, he's probably not even GGG on star power level.

He could have an immediate rematch if he wanted to fight Porter, he didn't want to, end of story.

and you're not concerned at all that your fav fighter is in welterweight for 2 years already but hasn't beaten a single top 10 fighter there except if you wanna count shot ass Guerrero there?
oh but he draws though... Do you see anything from that money that you care about it so much? :yeshrug:

props for him for fighting Thurman but when the Rios fight is over he will have 4 other fights in welterweight none of them against a legit top 10 guy... why is that?

you said he can fight whoever he wants cause other fighters just fall in front of his knees for a payday but if that's true and he isn't the victim of the circumstances he's the one to blame for not fighting better guys. It's not even because of politics, he's with Haymon as most top names at ww are so he can fight everyone sans Pac and Jessie Vargas


When we talking business N politics we talking business N politics

When we talking actual fights N talent N resumes we talking bout that

I'm talking bout A sides doing A side things

Danny Garcia don't bring nikkas pay days yet erry fighter at 147 got Swift name coming out they mouth :usure:... who's Keith Thurmans biggest payday from?? Who got Gurrero a Milly?? Who got Matthysse paid af??


Never did I compare him to Floyd...i compared him to Canelo to show the example of an A side doing A side shyt


What's Canelos resume at 160 friend??:jbhmm:

You aren't claiming Canelo needs to do this or do that for his title shots tho :jbhmm:


It's ok for the A side you Stan but Not the A side you dislike :jbhmm:


Doesn't sound consistent to me:patrice:



N since you wanted to bring up resumes N tough fights back to back


Floyd
Angulo
Lara
Kirkland
Cotto
Khan
Beefy
Jccjr
GGG


Where are them tough back to back fights friend?? How is Rios any different then jccjr or Angulo or kirkland friend?? Where is the consistency with you at friend??






#swiftset title shot in 2018 :umad:




:Smugswift:
 

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Every Canelo fight fixed now :russ: were they fixed too when ya was stanning him or nah. Should I go back and dig up some post or nah. How long have you nikkas been watching boxing the draw always gets preferred treatment on the cards :hubie: go ask your boy SRL about that :mjgrin: his fights fixed too :mjgrin:
:mjlol: when dudes talk crazy but wont quote you or @ you


We could've discussed this HOURS ago....but instead you chose to throw subliminals & I have to scroll the thread to find it:dead:



That convo is dead now though:yeshrug:
 

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Cant pay that guy 2 step aside fees...that would've been crazy:manny:


WBC gave Ortiz the :pacspit: though


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what I don't get what happened to Stiverne's failed test? They didn't give him any sanction...?

fukk a Don King... :francis:
I really-really wasn't interested in Wilder vs Stiverne II
 

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You know how you'll be channel surfing and see that a certain movie is always playing. Wilder vs Stiverne 2 is that fukking movie. Whenever I pop up in the OG thread that fight is somehow mentioned. I just want these 2 to fight already and get this shyt over with. :what:
 

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When we talking business N politics we talking business N politics

When we talking actual fights N talent N resumes we talking bout that

I'm talking bout A sides doing A side things

Danny Garcia don't bring nikkas pay days yet erry fighter at 147 got Swift name coming out they mouth :usure:... who's Keith Thurmans biggest payday from?? Who got Gurrero a Milly?? Who got Matthysse paid af??


Never did I compare him to Floyd...i compared him to Canelo to show the example of an A side doing A side shyt


What's Canelos resume at 160 friend??:jbhmm:

You aren't claiming Canelo needs to do this or do that for his title shots tho :jbhmm:


It's ok for the A side you Stan but Not the A side you dislike :jbhmm:


Doesn't sound consistent to me:patrice:



N since you wanted to bring up resumes N tough fights back to back


Floyd
Angulo
Lara
Kirkland
Cotto
Khan
Beefy
Jccjr
GGG


Where are them tough back to back fights friend?? How is Rios any different then jccjr or Angulo or kirkland friend?? Where is the consistency with you at friend??






#swiftset title shot in 2018 :umad:




:Smugswift:


Who said Canelo hasn't got this mistake...? :yeshrug:

Seems like the Canelo, Swift type of counter-punchers don't take tough fights back to back :francis::russ:

Canelo will do it now though as he will rematch with GGG

all I'm saying that Danny Garcia isn't the ww version of Canelo as far as star power goes, he is a bigger name than Thurman or Porter but to what extent...? Ddn't he and Thurman get the same amount of money for their fight? It was a 50-50 iirc
 
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