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If he doesn't do at minimum the same numbers that @ChocolateGiddyUp posted a few days ago, it's a flop:sas1:


Because according to you Crawford stans....he's a Star on the level of a Swift and Thurman:sas2:

What numbers would those be?

I've never said Crawford was a star, do your audits.
:francis:

I said there's only one, maybe two stars in boxing, everybody else is in the same tier/boat -- not exceptional enough to separate themselves from the pack to date.



No floppin :wow:
 

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Thurman v Collazo 1.1 Milly peak

Swift vs Paulie 1.4 Milly peak

LSC vs Mares 1.6 Milly peak


Crawford needs to do atleast a milly....the Anti PBC crowd was shytting on Keith N Swifts ESPN numbers at that...lets see what Crawford does N the spin it gets

@Newzz this?


If he did a milly on HBO two months ago, he should crack it on ESPN
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If he does a milly is he a star that would be back to back milly
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He would need to have the people decide that. Last time I seen Crawford, he was at the SOG fight like:



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Honestly all of these fighters like Crawford, Thurman etc would all be superstars in the UK...we talk about Crawford having no personality but real talk Joshua doesn't have any and hes already a household name here. Over here as long as you're a british fighter and you're good you've got that type of status.

But the US is a different ball game it takes more than 'over 1 milli views peak time on TV' to be a star :lolbron: . Aint none of these black fighters becoming a 'star' unless they do what white people don't like seeing black fighters do - flash cars, money, women, arrogant unapologetic trash talker. They'll hype up a foreigner that can barely speak English (Lomachenko) before they hype up someone like Andre Ward who actually represents the country :hhh:. When you hear commentators call Loma #1 p4p its blatant disrespect to Ward its as if they wanna act like Ward didn't run it back and TKO one of boxings boogeymans.

So dont listen to people talkin about 'oh he has no personality so he cant be a star', it aint just about your personality its about whether the people wanna push you to stardom :mjpls:

It also doesn't help the popularity of the sport appears to have fallen in the US whereas in other countries the sport is held in high regard, thats part of why boxers in the UK tend to shine here more than in the US.

Its a fukked up game for us but thats how they want black fighters to reach that superstar status in the US. Its sad some American fighters literally have to come over here just to be truly appreciated.
 

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@Newzz

Da hell is going on lol



"Dont call me breh:ufdup:" was tripping, so I had to let him know that logic was faulty.


He said:




...which prompted my response.

Him saying Lomachenko has beaten no one on the level of Viktor Postol, bc Postol was 2nd best at 140, was ridiculous, so according to that logic DeMarco was a better win than any win either fighter has because he was considered the best at 135 and Crawford nor Loma hasnt beaten anyone who was considered the best fighter in the division according to him.
 

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Honestly all of these fighters like Crawford, Thurman etc would all be superstars in the UK...we talk about Crawford having no personality but real talk Joshua doesn't have any and hes already a household name here. Over here as long as you're a british fighter and you're good you've got that type of status.

But the US is a different ball game it takes more than 'over 1 milli views peak time on TV' to be a star :lolbron: . Aint none of these black fighters becoming a 'star' unless they do what white people don't like seeing black fighters do - flash cars, money, women, arrogant unapologetic trash talker. They'll hype up a foreigner that can barely speak English (Lomachenko) before they hype up someone like Andre Ward who actually represents the country :hhh:. When you hear commentators call Loma #1 p4p its blatant disrespect to Ward its as if they wanna act like Ward didn't run it back and TKO one of boxings boogeymans.

So dont listen to people talkin about 'oh he has no personality so he cant be a star', it aint just about your personality its about whether the people wanna push you to stardom :mjpls:

It also doesn't help the popularity of the sport appears to have fallen in the US whereas in other countries the sport is held in high regard, thats part of why boxers in the UK tend to shine here more than in the US.

Its a fukked up game for us but thats how they want black fighters to reach that superstar status in the US. Its sad some American fighters literally have to come over here just to be truly appreciated.

Casual Black fans dont support quiet black fighters like Ward, Crawford, Bradley, etc
 

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"Dont call me breh:ufdup:" was tripping, so I had to let him know that logic was faulty.


He said:




...which prompted my response.

Him saying Lomachenko has beaten no one on the level of Viktor Postol, bc Postol was 2nd best at 140, was ridiculous, so according to that logic DeMarco was a better win than any win either fighter has because he was considered the best at 135 and Crawford nor Loma hasnt beaten anyone who was considered the best fighter in the division according to him.


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At the same time though I'll say this with all the recent talk here of 'stars' in boxing , ill say it again for this generation of boxers they must be fighting on free tv Fighters need to build their stock over years before they start trying to go this PPV route. If I were a boxer right now I'd demand all my fights be available to watch live on Youtube stream :mjgrin:
 

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Honestly all of these fighters like Crawford, Thurman etc would all be superstars in the UK...we talk about Crawford having no personality but real talk Joshua doesn't have any and hes already a household name here. Over here as long as you're a british fighter and you're good you've got that type of status.

But the US is a different ball game it takes more than 'over 1 milli views peak time on TV' to be a star :lolbron: . Aint none of these black fighters becoming a 'star' unless they do what white people don't like seeing black fighters do - flash cars, money, women, arrogant unapologetic trash talker. They'll hype up a foreigner that can barely speak English (Lomachenko) before they hype up someone like Andre Ward who actually represents the country :hhh:. When you hear commentators call Loma #1 p4p its blatant disrespect to Ward its as if they wanna act like Ward didn't run it back and TKO one of boxings boogeymans.

So dont listen to people talkin about 'oh he has no personality so he cant be a star', it aint just about your personality its about whether the people wanna push you to stardom :mjpls:

It also doesn't help the popularity of the sport appears to have fallen in the US whereas in other countries the sport is held in high regard, thats part of why boxers in the UK tend to shine here more than in the US.

Its a fukked up game for us but thats how they want black fighters to reach that superstar status in the US. Its sad some American fighters literally have to come over here just to be truly appreciated.
I know Wilder would probably be bigger. Heavyweight with 97% ko that leaves dudes a twitching mess on the floor :ohhh:
 
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