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[reservoirdogs]

Stiverne is the new Sergey Lipinets

 

[Newzz]

Stiverne is the new Sergey Lipinets

Nah, because Stiverne already lost to Wilder....Lipinets aint even get a chance yet.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Nah, because Stiverne already lost to Wilder....Lipinets aint even get a chance yet.

yeah that's a minor difference

but both of them tried/trying to block better-more meaningful fights in order of their personal gains even if the vast majority of the fans want to see the other fights.

Lipinets did not succeed in this, I hope Stiverne won't succeed either

 

[Newzz]

yeah that's a minor difference

but both of them tried/trying to block better-more meaningful fights in order of their personal gains even if the vast majority of the fans want to see the other fights.

Lipinets did not succeed in this, I hope Stiverne won't succeed either

Lipinets deserves his title shot...he's not even getting any step aside money and he earned the fight


Stiverne hasn't actually earned the right to face Wilder imo. He lost to Wilder, got off the canvas to beat Deric Rossy of all people, and now is back as mandatory for Wilder


I get what you're saying, but I think the winner of Crawford/Indougo should automatically be forced to face Lipinets next, bc he's being treated unfairly.

 

[Bigblackted4]

Let me ask y'all something right quick...

Which would be more important to a fighter's legacy?

As of right now... 7/19/17...

Would it be more important for a fighter's, any fighter's, legacy to defeat...

A: Jeff Horn (WBO 147 champion)

or

B: Manny Pacquiao (Future Hall of Famer)

As of right now... which would be more important?

This is not a loaded question, nothing to read in-between the lines. Just pick A or B.

It's interesting and depends on the fighter. For Spence it'd probably be A and for Crawford it probably be B. Overall I'd say B because having his name on your resume looks amazing.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Lipinets deserves his title shot...he's not even getting any step aside money and he earned the fight


Stiverne hasn't actually earned the right to face Wilder imo. He lost to Wilder, got off the canvas to beat Deric Rossy of all people, and now is back as mandatory for Wilder


I get what you're saying, but I think the winner of Crawford/Indougo should automatically be forced to face Lipinets next, bc he's being treated unfairly.

Crawford probably gonna move up though but if he beats Indongo and stays 140 he must fight Lipinets next.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Crawford probably gonna move up though but if he beats Indongo and stays 140 he must fight Lipinets next.

I also read something like Lipinets and his team excluded that they gonna accept any step aside money so Dongo and Hearn had to do him dirty

 

[Newzz]

I also read something like Lipinets and his team excluded that they gonna accept any step aside money so Dongo and Hearn had to do him dirty

Yep. I posted it in here from the fake world (Twitter).


If Crawford moves up, he can fight for the vacant IBF Championship though

 

[#SOG_soldier]

you're right in Danny being a counter puncher and Porter being reckless however Porter is not a flat footed brawler or a traditional pressure fighter. He's a physical powerhouse, he pins you on the ropes and mauls you.
Danny might countered Lucas and kept him from coming at him but Matthysse is a fight who mostly fights at mid distance anyway so Danny could throw counters at him. Porter on the other hand gets as close as he can to you and physically overwhelms you.
The blueprint is out how to beat him, Brook showed it. Basically sharp counters paired with lateral movement and/or a physicality which can match his so you can tie him up after you countered him. Maybe also if you're a very good inside fighter.

let's see which one is true to Danny out of these.

sharp counters: check
matching physical power: no
good/fast lateral movement: not really
inside fighting: not really

so in my view he either catches Porter when he's coming in with something big or he gets pinned to the ropes and gets mauled. It won't look like against Matthysse when they take more measured steps and keep the distance etc... Porter gonna jump at him and jump at him fast.

Your analysis is spot on porter MAKES u fight his fight. While danny does not have handspeed as good as Kell or isn't as dynamic. Danny does fight much better on the inside. Danny never really been bullied and I don't think porter will maul him. When shawn is using those rough house tactics, this isn't a euro like kell that holds and holds. Danny is a nikka from north philly he gone get dirty just like Shawn.

 

[Skip b]

Your analysis is spot on porter MAKES u fight his fight. While danny does not have handspeed as good as Kell or isn't as dynamic. Danny does fight much better on the inside. Danny never really been bullied and I don't think porter will maul him. When shawn is using those rough house tactics, this isn't a euro like kell that holds and holds. Danny is a nikka from north philly he gone get dirty just like Shawn.

Garcia actually punches unlike Brook who slaps and push his shots in a girly type of way; even those bytchmade shots was able to keep Porter in control


SN: If Brook threw real shots at Spence maybe Spence wouldve lost as he was taking a boxing lesson majority of the fight

 

[reservoirdogs]

Your analysis is spot on porter MAKES u fight his fight. While danny does not have handspeed as good as Kell or isn't as dynamic. Danny does fight much better on the inside. Danny never really been bullied and I don't think porter will maul him. When shawn is using those rough house tactics, this isn't a euro like kell that holds and holds. Danny is a nikka from north philly he gone get dirty just like Shawn.

I doN't agree on this
I haven't seen anything from Swift which would indicate he's a good inside fighter. He's a tough guy but a good inside fighter? idk... He fights mid range.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Garcia actually punches unlike Brook who slaps and push his shots in a girly type of way; even those bytchmade shots was able to keep Porter in control


SN: If Brook threw real shots at Spence maybe Spence wouldve lost as he was taking a boxing lesson majority of the fight

Thurman landed some shots on Porter's head which would pretty much rip off an average person's head and he kept coming forward until the end of the fight

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Garcia actually punches unlike Brook who slaps and push his shots in a girly type of way; even those bytchmade shots was able to keep Porter in control


SN: If Brook threw real shots at Spence maybe Spence wouldve lost as he was taking a boxing lesson majority of the fight

Another good point kell like a lot of euro slaps with his punches. But slapping can get u into the hall of fame. If only kell had more boxing iq and didn't flush his career down the toilet by not talking short money against khan and instead fought ssy 160 vs lil g

 

[Skip b]

I doN't agree on this
I haven't seen anything from Swift which would indicate he's a good inside fighter. He's a tough guy but a good inside fighter? idk... He fights mid range.

His inside fighting is his main flaw; he fights too pretty and relaxed kind of like Manny.......If Swift had a dirty streak like Chino he'd be murderous.......

 

[#SOG_soldier]

I doN't agree on this
I haven't seen anything from Swift which would indicate he's a good inside fighter. He's a tough guy but a good inside fighter? idk... He fights mid range.

Last night I rewatched Garcia vs Guerrero. Danny did a great job of clinching and punching out of the clinch. Porter is clearly a better inside fighter the problem is his lack of defensive responsibility. When u fight in a monotone fashion that is a counter punchers wet dream. Trust me when danny uses his feet he will run shawn into counters and there will be times that Danny will trade body shots and short hooks out of the clinch. Danny isn't a great inside fighter but he good enuff.