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MoroccanBoy

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fukk outta here. AJ rather rematch a guys he knocked out than face Wilder in the US or UK.

He don't want no problems. I'm a AJ fan but he don't really want Wilder.

Theres a difference between rematching wlad and rematching stiverne :dahell:

Wilder only takes fights he knows he will win. He's literally irrelevant in the hw division now. He only reason you are talking about him is because he's American.
 

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Theres a difference between rematching wlad and rematching stiverne :dahell:

Wilder only takes fights he knows he will win. He's literally irrelevant in the hw division now. He only reason you are talking about him is because he's American.
Wilder is trying his best to get out of a mandated rematch that the WBC seems hellbent on making despite Stiverne not earning 1 and Povetkin being a drug addict

AJ is trying his best to drag a 41 year old man out of another semi retirement to a rematch he doesn't want

fukk.... Outta here
 

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You Americans just need to admit that Wilder is a bum and call it a day

Joshua is doing him a favour not fighting him right now

That nikka better not even think of coming for Fury when he returns or its gonna be a problem
Bruh, I don't think UK guys understand this but... The vast majority of black folks are not on some US pride bullshyt. :pachaha:

We couldn't give 2 shyts about any of that. If anything, it's more localized love to a fighter from a particular state and/or city.

With that said, AJ v Wlad is what AJ wants, talking about "dangling carrots" in front of Wlad trying to entice him into a rematch.

Dangle that in front of Wilder... see what happens...
 

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Fighters that beat wilder

Joshua
25 stone Tyson fury
Old man wlad
Injured David haye
Prospect Parker
Hughie baby fury
PEDetkin
Luis ortiz


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Wilder is trying his best to get out of a mandated rematch that the WBC seems hellbent on making despite Stiverne not earning 1 and Povetkin being a drug addict

AJ is trying his best to drag a 41 year old man out of another semi retirement to a rematch he doesn't want

fukk.... Outta here

He's trying to get out of his mandatory so he can fight Tony bellew :russ:
 

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You Americans just need to admit that Wilder is a bum and call it a day

Joshua is doing him a favour not fighting him right now

That nikka better not even think of coming for Fury when he returns or its gonna be a problem

You said this same thing before Spence broke Brook's face:ahh:


Joshua ducking Wilder. He dont want face off :manny:
 

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Shidd fukk all that Wilder dnt want smoke with Mansour

Amir Mansour: Dillian Whyte, Povetkin Wouldn't Fight Me


Frustration? Amir Mansour never knew the true meaning of the word until he tried to tried to capitalize on his March 17 victory over heavyweight hopeful Travis Kauffman.

Mansour’s unanimous 12-round decision victory in Kauffman’s Reading, PA, backyard was nationally televised (Bounce TV) but it did little to create future opportunities for the left-hander from Salem, NJ.

“You’d think I have the plague, the way the other so-called heavyweight contenders are avoiding me,” Mansour said. “Is it my breath or is it my ability? These guys call themselves fighters but when my name comes up in conversation, they act like they have a hearing problem. Why would anyone be afraid of a 44-year-old man?

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Originally from Salem, NJ, Mansour now resides in Wilmington, DE. His victory over Kauffman, a fight in which he rallied down the stretch, boosted his record to 23-2-1, 16 K0s, and earned him a No. 15 slot with both the WBO and WBC. Without a fight since, the WBC lowered him to No. 21.



“Who else gets dropped six spaces that quickly,” he asked.

Regarding the win over Kauffman: “It’s a very frustrating and disappointing reality when a fight is made and the winner is said to fight the world (WBC) champion,” Mansour said. “When I fought Travis Kauffman, Deontay Wilder was willing to fight Kauffman. They were sure Kauffman would win but he didn’t. I won that fight but now Wilder doesn’t want to fight me. His last fight was against Gerald Washington, a fighter that 98 percent of the viewers thought I beat (in 2015). The fight was scored a draw. Washington went on to fight Deontay for the title.”

Masnour also talked about his 2014 one-punch knockout of iron-chinned Fred Kassi at the Sands Bethlehem.

“I received the Knockout of the Year mention against Fred Kassi, but he went on to fight Chris Arreola and walked away with a draw. Chris also had a No Contest against Kauffman, a fight in which he was floored. Chris went on to fight Deontay as well. It’s blatant cowardice (on Wilder’s part) if you ask me.”

J Russell Peltz got a call about a possible July 1 fight in Russia between Mansour and Alexander Povetkin with the stipulation that Mansour get ranked.

“When Mansour landed in the No. 15 slot in both the WBC and the WBO, Povetkin’s people stopped answering the phone,” Peltz said.





Amir Mansour: Dillian Whyte, Povetkin Wouldn't Fight Me - Boxing News
 

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A fighter with a better resume and monetary value than Whyte...

He beat a man who came into the fight with one achilles tendon. Please. He's not a heavyweight contender stop it.

This is what wilder and his fans want. A fight with a fat light heavyweight rather than a legit heavyweight contender.

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Benitez :to: :mjcry:

WILFRED BENITEZ: THE DARK SIDE OF A WARRIOR'S WORLD

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In 1986, a homeless and mentally distressed Wilfred Benitez wandered the streets of Salta, Argentina, panhandling for money to buy food. Locals had no idea that the grubby and malnourished man, known to start random bursts of high-speed roadwork until collapsing in exhaustion, was actually boxing royalty.

Benitez-one of the modern era greats, who won a world title at the age of 17 and had held his own in battles with the likes of Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, and Carlos Palomino-was under medical suspension in his native Puerto Rico when lured to Argentina for a much-needed payday.

Already suffering from early stages of Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE), a degenerative brain disease caused by repetitive head trauma, the future Hall of Famer reportedly failed his pre-fight physical prior to his bout in Salta, but was allowed to enter the ring, anyway.

One predictable knockout loss later, insult was added to injury when event promoters allegedly stole Benitez's passport and balked at paying him the purse he was promised.

Destitute, foggy-brained, and without any legal identification to leave the country, Benitez spent a long year on the streets until a government representative from Puerto Rico followed the trail of the Boricua national hero and rescued him.

The Argentina experience would be the first time boxing let Wilfred Benitez down, but it wouldn't be the last time.

Shockingly, a clearly unwell Benitez would find himself back in the ring just a couple of years after the Argentina debacle, for four more pointless fights under the auspices of weak commissions for minor paydays. By then, though, the damage had already been done. One of the brightest, sharpest, most charming fighters of the last 50 years was fading away.

Fast forward to 2017.

The 58-year-old Wilfred Benitez lives in a permanent fog, nearly blind and unable to stand upright for long due to balance issues. His mind is all but gone, showing only occasional glimpses of the man he used to be. Complications from diabetes and a stroke suffered a few years ago complicate matters even further. The man who traveled the world as a thinking man's warrior and tactical genius, is gone.

Also gone is every bit of the approximately $8 million he earned as a prizefighter.

Some point to Benitez's late father and former business manager, Gregorio-a born dreamer and compulsive gambler-as the guilty party behind Wilfred's missing millions. Other's lay the blame on Benitez, himself, who spent freely and was, by all accounts, a soft touch when it came to helping others. Whatever the case, the money disappeared long ago and right when Wilfred needed it most.

Now living on public aid provided by the Puerto Rican government and a three-digit monthly stipend from the WBC, Benitez needs round-the-clock care and is currently looked after by his sister. His beloved mother, Clara, a licensed nurse who watched over Wilfred with a dedication only a mother could give her ailing son, passed away in 2008. The former champ lives in his modest family home, sharing space with two other brothers, who also suffer with CTE from their own time in the fight game. With a disease that is progressing and a family already stretched well beyond their means, he is teetering on tragedy without the slightest hint of a safety net. Not too long ago, the family had to sell part of their metal roof for scrap in order to buy groceries.

But through it all, the fighter is still there. Buried deep inside a mind that is, literally, shutting itself off, Benitez makes it clear that boxing is still part of him. His family talks of Wilfred sometimes bobbing and weaving in his chair, showing a bit of the classic movement that defined his defensive style. At Hector Camacho's funeral in 2012, Benitez shocked everyone in attendance when he stood up from his wheelchair and struck a firm fighter's pose in front of the casket of the fellow Boricua Hall of Famer.

A fire as bright as Wilfred's is hard to simply extinguish. After all, this is the man who tamed Roberto Duran. A man who is defined by the battles he has waged is hard to keep down-even in a war he is destined to lose.

Boxing is a part of Wilfred Benitez and Wilfred Benitez has never left boxing. But, sadly, boxing has, for the most part, left HIM. Although there are pockets of support and recognition scattered all throughout the sport, boxing has mostly walked away from the man who, literally, gave everything to his craft. A champion unable to pose for selfies on Hall of Fame induction weekends or sign autographs ringside at the fights, soon finds himself forgotten. Way too many fans of the sport prefer not to look at the dark side of a world of warriors and sacrifice. They don't want to see that there is a price to pay for heroism.

Please consider donating to the Wilfred Benitez Fund. Spread the word by sharing this article.

Special thanks go to "The Iceman" John Scully for inspiring this piece and for all the great work he has done in raising funds and awareness for this cause.
 

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Schaefer, Haye Reveal TV Deal, Latest Signings To Company

London: Hayemaker Ringstar, the joint venture between two weight World Boxing Champion, David Haye and world renowned promoter Richard Schaefer, announce milestone TV rights deal with UKTV, the biggest multichannel broadcaster in the UK, for its entertainment channel Dave.

The three-year deal will see five fight nights broadcast free of charge per year and the partnership marks an important move for channel Dave to continue its sports offering and wide range of programming.

The channel first entered the market of live sport in January 2016, broadcasting David Haye’s highly anticipated comeback fight. The show broke network records peaking at over three million viewers, 461% up on slot and capturing 14% of the audience share, beating Channel 4 for the duration of the fight.

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The exclusive deal looks to satisfy Britain and Ireland’s appetite for free-to-view boxing, ensuring fans can tune in to great boxing matches on regular basis. The upcoming clashes will showcase Hayemaker Ringstar’s latest signings which include; European and Commonwealth Games Champion and Olympic silver medallist Heavyweight Joe Joyce. Joyce will be getting to work quickly, with a sharp trajectory to World Titles. Commonwealth Games silver medallist, European bronze medallist and Olympian, Qais Ashfaq. Scotland’s double World Champion and European Champion, Willy Hutchinson. As well as Michael Venom Page, 10-time World Kickboxing Champion and the UK’s most exciting MMA fighter who produced Bellator’s ultimate knockout of 2016.

David Haye said: “I’ve personally enjoyed huge success with UKTV, smashing viewer records on previous live broadcasts. As a result, I am thrilled to announce a long-term partnership to introduce the next generation of boxing stars to their audience. An incredible 40 million people tune into UKTV’s programme offering every month which without question provides the Hayemaker Ringstar stable with an incredibly strong platform for a rapidly growing fan base.”

Richard Watsham, UKTV director of commissioning said: “David Haye’s excitement for his brilliant new line up of emerging stars is infectious. He’s signed some thrilling prospects and I know Dave’s audience will get behind them and support them as they build up towards leading their divisions. I frequently hear fans call for a bit of a shake up in the world of boxing; we’re proud to be part of that and to give so many people the chance to watch.”

Richard Schaefer said: “We’re delighted to be working alongside UKTV, taking the sport back to the masses where it belongs. I enjoy building prospects and champions into superstars that transcend the sport of boxing and become global household names, just like I have done with Floyd Mayweather, Canelo and many more”.

:whoo:

WBSS, Ringstar, Haymaker...
Tricky dikk making moves all over the world :obama:
 
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