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I mean...if you're based outside of the US, and haven't yet fought the top "US based" fighters (regardless of nationality) you're pretty much Minor League Boxing status.

This is a fact.

The only exceptions are the Heavyweight division of the past 10+ years...and most of the midget weight classes.

well thats your view breh lol..but remember when we had that discussion about roy jones and the cruiserweight division...you thought roy could still become a legit champion there and i told you roy was food..none of the champs and top contenders there are US based..my thing is i do think a star profile can be enhanced by fighting in america..crossover there in some fashion and youre good but i dont really believe like i used to that you have to beat US based fighters to be big time..esp if the talent level of a division is not really that special
 

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well thats your view breh lol..but remember when we had that discussion about roy jones and the cruiserweight division...you thought roy could still become a legit champion there and i told you roy was food..none of the champs and top contenders there are US based

Cruiserweight is a red headed stepchild division that nobody REALLY wants to be in...and it's always been that way since it's inception.

There's NEVER been a "big money" or "superfight" at Cruiserweight for a reason. Not One.

And i said Roy should fight Toney, Tarver or Hopkins for a vacant title at Cruiserweight...i didn't say anything about him being able to beat any title holders.

my thing is i do think a star profile can be enhanced by fighting in america..crossover there in some fashion and youre good but i dont really believe like i used to that you have to beat US based fighters to be big time..esp if the talent level of a division is not really that special

If by "big time" you mean needing to beat a "US based" fighter to gain a large fanbase...NO...that's not what i'm saying.

Places like the UK gas up mediocrity, and standards are much lower to gain a large following over there than it is in the U.S. The higher ceiling for maximizing your drawing power is and always has been in the U.S. Although that might be slowly changing.

But at any given time, in just about every weight class...the top fighters are US based...and you're going to have to go thru them to gain and/or maintain legitimacy.
 

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Says every know nothing except for the top Heavyweights who don't want to take that risk/reward leap. :whistle:

Go check out Hearn's recently revealed plans for Joshua for 2018 :russ:

They want no smoke whatsoever.

Wilder was shook of dillian Whyte let alone Joshua. Please. He still hasn't fought anybody worth a damn. He will retire after he fights stiverne 3 times and molina another 2 times. Absolute bum.
 

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Wilder was shook of dillian Whyte let alone Joshua. Please. He still hasn't fought anybody worth a damn. He will retire after he fights stiverne 3 times and molina another 2 times. Absolute bum.

"Dillian Whyte" :laff:

This is exactly what i'm talking about when i say how folks in the UK gas up mediocrity.

The man tried to make a fight with another title holder in the division and got avoided like the plague...and they throw out some damn "Dillion Whyte" as if it's a legitimate and worthwile fight :childplease:

A FIGHT HE'S NOT EVEN ABLE TO MAKE

@ 16:30

 

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"Dillian Whyte" :laff:

This is exactly what i'm talking about when i say how folks in the UK gas up mediocrity.

The man tried to make a fight with another title holder in the division and got avoided like the plague...and they throw out some damn "Dillion Whyte" as if it's a legitimate and worthwile fight :childplease:

A FIGHT HE'S NOT EVEN ABLE TO MAKE

@ 16:30



Dillian Whyte would be the best name on wilders resume :mjlol:
 

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