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[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

But what if you're white

All my cousins are real

They buy the beers!

 

[patscorpio]

Issue is that Manny had to go thr distance w/a fighter of Horn's caliber in the 1st place.

Manny better choose his next opponent carefully

and i was saying lucas was prolly on the horizon for pac after the horn fight..that could have been the fight where lucas would have picked up the belt from...well i guess now horn will have to do

 

[malbaker86]

and i was saying lucas was prolly on the horizon for pac after the horn fight..that could have been the fight where lucas would have picked up the belt from...well i guess now horn will have to do

Actually wouldn't be a bad match up at all. He aint gonna want it with Lucas tho

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

UK brehs
@ComorianKid @BlackManLiveFromLondon
@NoMyNameIs...
@Wise D'Angelo

Why Hearn is so unpopular among many British fans?

It always seemed strange to me cause he seems to be a big part contributor to this current UK boxing renaissance so I don't get why is he so disliked.

I'm not a Brit tho so there's maybe some background story I'm not aware of.

He thinks that its the Hearn show everytime hes promoting a fight. Anthony Joshua would be wise to go independent at this point

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

UK brehs
@ComorianKid @BlackManLiveFromLondon
@NoMyNameIs...
@Wise D'Angelo

Why Hearn is so unpopular among many British fans?

It always seemed strange to me cause he seems to be a big part contributor to this current UK boxing renaissance so I don't get why is he so disliked.

I'm not a Brit tho so there's maybe some background story I'm not aware of.

I'm not from the UK breh

You prolly thought that because I speak highly of Brook and Joshua.

I still think that the only fighter that could beat Brook at 147 was Spence.
And that Joshua will smoke Wilder and Wilder is too far along in his career to be fighting bums. That could be why you thought I was from the UK.

 

[ComorianKid]

UK brehs
@ComorianKid @BlackManLiveFromLondon
@NoMyNameIs...
@Wise D'Angelo

Why Hearn is so unpopular among many British fans?

It always seemed strange to me cause he seems to be a big part contributor to this current UK boxing renaissance so I don't get why is he so disliked.

I'm not a Brit tho so there's maybe some background story I'm not aware of.

I would say due to the garbage Ppvs he has put on like brook vs frankie gavin. Also he is always on camera taking shine away from the fighters.

 

[reservoirdogs]

He thinks that its the Hearn show everytime hes promoting a fight. Anthony Joshua would be wise to go independent at this point

already?

I see what you both saying btw but aside of him loving attention too much he really is the top promoter of a hot scene right now so it's partly understandable imo

 

[reservoirdogs]

I'm not from the UK breh

You prolly thought that because I speak highly of Brook and Joshua.

I still think that the only fighter that could beat Brook at 147 was Spence.
And that Joshua will smoke Wilder and Wilder is too far along in his career to be fighting bums. That could be why you thought I was from the UK.

okay then or maybe I mixed you up with someone

I also think Joshua will KO Wilder I'm not American either tho

 

[seemorecizzy]

Issue is that Manny had to go thr distance w/a fighter of Horn's caliber in the 1st place.

Manny better choose his next opponent carefully

I been sayin for years now that crawford would beat the holy loving shyt out of manny and a lot of ppl here were saying i was wrong

I hope now, with these jeff horn problems arising, ppl can see my point of view

I mean im sure crawford will stil whip that ass, but im sure horn and crawford is arum's new money fight

 

[reservoirdogs]

Hmmmmm...

that Williams dude talking rubbish

He's saying Tabiti is not in WBSS cause of politics and that Europeans didn't want to risk another Andre Ward

C'mon now... is this guy the type who still thinks in 2017 shyt like "all Europeans are bums"? Cruiser is an European heavy division and WBSS picked the best guys possible except for Huck and Wlodarczyk but rather only Huck cause Wlodarczyk was needed because of him being an IBF mando. Even if Huck would not be in it there would be three fighters on the waiting list who I would put ahead of Tabiti. Makbu, Kalenga and Glowacki.

Tabiti is rather a prospect yet and the cw line up is so strong that there's hardly a place for prospects there, simple as that. No politics in this, Tabiti simply hasn't done enough yet to get in such a strong line up.

Also can he stop talking about the super 6 like it was some all Euro stuff with Ward placed there as the single American guy who still won it? Kessler was the betting favorite to win, right, but half of the original line up was American with Ward, Dirrell and Taylor.

 

[patscorpio]

the only glaring omissions was no mention of miura-roman, which is a FOTY candidate, valdez-marriaga, and the russell-escandon card which was lit from beginning to end but this was a pretty good article

Boxing in 2017 - the year so far - Boxing News
Boxing in 2017 – the year so far

Kenneth Bouhairie ponders when was the last time boxing had it so good in his review of the year so far
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IT seems like every other week, I’m inevitably asked the same question by a fellow fight fan: “When is the last time we had it this good?” “Never” is the response that typically springs to mind. After years of being force-fed boxing’s version of prison slop, 2017 has been a king’s banquet for fans.

The tide shifted on December 10 2016. Showtime aired a triple-header of Anthony Joshua-Eric Molina, Abner Mares-Jesus Cuellar, and Jermall Charlo-Julian Williams. Charlo-Williams was emblematic of what would become the norm on the network. These weren’t retreads fighting for another payday. These were young, talented fighters of championship ilk risking their records and reputations early in their careers.

That turning point paved the way for a staggering 2017, a year rivaling any in recent memory:

Badou Jack-James DeGale / Jose Pedraza-Gervonta Davis (Jan. 14 on Showtime) – Davis won his first world title with a star-making performance while Jack-DeGale is a Fight of the Year candidate—and that wasn’t even the best fight on the card. Immanuwel Aleem’s sixth-round TKO of Ievgen Khytrov on Showtime Extreme was a thrilling see-saw affair. Brooklyn’s Barclay’s Center was rocking that night.

Carl Frampton-Leo Santa Cruz II / Mikey Garcia-Dejan Zlaticanin (Jan. 28 on Showtime) – Frampton-Santa Cruz II wasn’t as good as their first encounter but it was every bit as intense. Santa Cruz displayed boxing skills few thought he possessed. In the co-feature, Mikey Garcia turned in the fistic rendition of “Y’all Musta Forgot” with a KO of the Year candidate.

Francisco Vargas-Miguel Berchelt (Jan. 28 on HBO) – Only hardcore boxing fans were familiar with their names but Vargas-Berchelt was like a throwback HBO Boxing After Dark fight as Berchelt delivered a head-turning performance in this title-winning effort.

Sammy Vasquez Jr.-Luis Collazo (Feb. 2 on PBC on FS1) – Collazo and Vasquez warred for five and a half rounds. Then, with a single right hook, veteran Collazo vanquished Vasquez to the sandbox with the other wee children.

Deontay Wilder-Gerald Washington (Feb. 25 on PBC on Fox) – The main event was a snoozer that Wilder thankfully ended in the fifth, but the undercard was stacked. Jarrett Hurd-Tony Harrison was solid on paper and in the ring while Dominic Breazeale and Izuagbe Ugonoh delivered this era’s version of Foreman-Lyle.

Keith Thurman-Danny Garcia / Erickson Lubin-Jorge Cota (Mar. 4 on CBS/Showtime) – While the main event didn’t meet expectations, on paper it was gold. If the numbers count for anything, this was arguably the biggest fight since Mayweather-Pacquiao; 5.1 million viewers tuned in.

David Haye-Tony Bellew (Mar. 4 on Sky Box Office) – Bellew scored a “yuge” upset over Haye, battering a foe who suffered an Achilles injury early in the fight, and was reduced to stumbling around the ring launching desperate haymakers that never landed.

Gennady Golovkin-Danny Jacobs / Roman Gonzalez-Srisaket Sor Rungvisai (Mar. 18 on HBO PPV) – We complained that this was on PPV (it shouldn’t have been). Those who tuned in (approximately 170,000 buys) we’re glad they did. Jacobs gave “GGG” the toughest fight of his career, dropping a close decision. The co-main was a bloody affair that saw Rungvisai end Gonzalez’s 12-year, 46-fight win streak.

Jorge Linares-Anthony Crolla II (Mar. 25 on Showtime) – A rejuvenated Linares left no doubt in this rematch as to who was the superior fighter. Great action? Not necessarily, but a great matchup featuring a sublime performance.

Vasyl Lomachenko-Jason Sosa (April 8 on HBO) – Lomachenko hasn’t had a memorable fight or matchup in 2017 but is still a major part of this year’s narrative. Watching Loma perform is like watching a prime Roy Jones toy with a civil servant: Not the ideal matchup but still must-watch TV. Sosa never stood a chance.

Shawn Porter-Andre Berto / Jermell Charlo-Charles Hatley (Apr. 22 on Showtime) – Berto isn’t elite. But this was a fun fight, albeit one-sided. Porter is now welterweight titlist Keith Thurman’s mandatory. Their first fight was one of 2016’s best but most would rather see Thurman-Errol Spence Jr. next; the best matchup in the sport’s hottest division. Charlo turned in a career-best in the chief support, punishing a Hatley who’d been full of talk during the build-up.

Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko (Apr. 29 on Showtime) – A super fight between two super men in front of 90,000 at Wembley Stadium. The hype for this one was off the charts and the action exceeded it.

Canelo Alvarez-Julio Cesar Chavez Jr (May 6 on HBO PPV) – A disappointing PPV although intriguing enough to make a million people wonder what if? The highlight of the night: Canelo and Golovkin in the ring post-fight announcing their September date.

Terence Crawford-Felix Diaz / Ray Beltran-Jonathan Maicelo (May 20 on HBO) – Crawford, perhaps the game’s best practitioner, is a pleasure to watch. To make Diaz look so ineffectual says a lot about “Bud.” Beltran obliterated Maicelo via one-punch KO in the second.

David Benavidez-Porky Medina (May 20 on PBC on FS1) – If you haven’t heard about David Benavidez (18-0, 17), you’re late to the party. And if you missed the insane combination that finished Medina off, find it on YouTube. We may be looking at the next super middleweight king.

Kell Brook-Errol Spence Jr. (May 27 on Showtime) – Another fight where the action met the hype. A break-out performance for Spence and a brave one from Brook.

Andre Ward-Sergey Kovalev II (Jun. 17 on HBO PPV) – An immediate rematch between two pound-for-pound fighters following a disputed decision in the first fight. Their star power doesn’t warrant a PPV, but who can complain about this matchup? The action delivered although not without a twist ending.

Adrien Broner-Mikey Garcia (Jul. 29 on Showtime) – Like an unexpected gift from a loved one; we didn’t ask for it, but we’ll gladly accept. This fight could make Garcia a superstar. Or will Broner finally and live up to his potential?

Canelo Alvarez-Gennady Golovkin (Sep. 16 on HBO PPV) – Enough said.

PBC on FS1 can’t be overlooked either. The “Toe-to-Toe Tuesdays” series is like a prime ESPN Friday Night Fights on PEDs; delivering quality action each episode.

There were other bouts that deserve mention: Adrien Broner and Adrian Granados went at it for 10 fast-paced rounds; Zhanat Zhakiyanov’s shocking win over Rau’Shee Warren was pleasurable viewing and Adonis Stevenson reminded us that he might be the best light heavyweight with a two-round pummeling of Andrjez Fonfara.

To think, we’re just hitting the half-year mark. But I know what you’re thinking: When was the last time we had it this good? Some say 2013:

Floyd Mayweather-Saul Alvarez
Guillermo Rigondeaux-Nonito Donaire
Danny Garcia-Lucas Matthysse
Marcos Maidana-Adrien Broner
Carl Froch-Mikkel Kessler II
Timothy Bradley-Juan Manuel Marquez
Jhonny Gonzalez-Abner Mares
Timothy Bradley Jr.-Ruslan Provodnikov
Danny Garcia-Zab Judah
Jesus Soto Karass-Andre Berto
Gennady Golovkin-Matthew Macklin
Adonis Stevenson-Chad Dawson
Lucas Matthysse-Lamont Peterson
Marcos Maidana-Josesito Lopez
Mikey Garcia-Roman Martinez
Sergey Kovalev-Nathan Cleverly

But does that full year beat this half one? Upon further review, this writer believes that the last time boxing had it this good was in 1997, when Evander Holyfield lost part of his ear, Roy Jones Jr. lost his undefeated record, and “Prince” Naseem Hamed gained an army of American fans.

Evander Holyfield-Mike Tyson II
Evander Holyfield-Michael Moorer II
Roy Jones Jr.-Montell Griffin I
Roy Jones Jr.-Montell Griffin II
Oscar De La Hoya-Pernell Whitaker
Naseem Hamed-Kevin Kelley
Junior Jones-Kennedy McKinney
Lennox Lewis-Andrew Golota
Arturo Gatti-Gabriel Ruelas
Daniel Zaragoza-Erik Morales
Danny Romero-Johnny Tapia
Daniel Zaragoza-Wayne McCullough
Kostya Tszyu-Vince Phillips
Junior Jones-Marco Antonio Barrera II
David Tua-Ike Ibeabuchi
Joe Calzaghe-Chris Eubank
Tom Johnson-Naseem Hamed
James Toney-Mike McCallum III
Genaro Hernandez-Azumah Nelson
Virgil Hill-Dariusz Michalczewski
Bernard Hopkins-Glen Johnson
Terry Norris-Keith Mullings
George Foreman-Shannon Briggs
Ike Quartey-Jose Luis Lopez
Oscar De La Hoya-Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Pernell Whitaker-Diobelys Hurtado


2017 will likely surpass 2013. Can it surpass 1997, the greatest year of the past 20?

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

that Williams dude talking rubbish

He's saying Tabiti is not in WBSS cause of politics and that Europeans didn't want to risk another Andre Ward

C'mon now... is this guy the type who still thinks in 2017 shyt like "all Europeans are bums"? Cruiser is an European heavy division and WBSS picked the best guys possible except for Huck and Wlodarczyk but rather only Huck cause Wlodarczyk was needed because of him being an IBF mando. Even if Huck would not be in it there would be three fighters on the waiting list who I would put ahead of Tabiti. Makbu, Kalenga and Glowacki.

Tabiti is rather a prospect yet and the cw line up is so strong that there's hardly a place for prospects there, simple as that. No politics in this, Tabiti simply hasn't done enough yet to get in such a strong line up.

Also can he stop talking about the super 6 like it was some all Euro stuff with Ward placed there as the single American guy who still won it? Kessler was the betting favorite to win, right, but half of the original line up was American with Ward, Dirrell and Taylor.

I agree completely regardless I feel like he would get KO'D anyway if he was in. I seen him fight a couple times and he really didn't impress me. He is ranked ahead of Huck on the WBC ranking so he kind of got a point but Huck is probably the most well known cruiserweight on the planet. I do think that Tabiti and Mike Perez are interchangeable tho can't really explain that one besides it is just the way the cookie crumble.

Maybe he should try to go after Lebedev or something in the meantime since all the other major belts are going to be closed off for awhile form him. Kinda sucks for him tho.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

@mr. smoke weed Jesse Vargas won't let Bradley breathe

 

[patscorpio]

@mr. smoke weed Jesse Vargas won't let Bradley breathe

so jessie went back to floyd's camp now? i guess he missed the gift decisions he used to get in his favor lol

 

[mr. smoke weed]

@mr. smoke weed Jesse Vargas won't let Bradley breathe

Bring it on! Retirement fight being whooping Vargas ass a second time