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[reservoirdogs]

Fury has been injured for 2 months. 2 months.

The fight was already off until recently. And he's had 2 months to make a fight with Wilder.

Wilder was the only party making any serious attempts at negotiations







Even Parker's own homecountry media took note on how hard Wilder's team was working to try to get the fight made and were basically being jerked around and ignored.

Where? When? I never heard about Wilder's side actually making offers just that he calls these guys out in the media.
Joshua does not have "2 months".
Wladimir has an immediate rematch clause and unfortunately he still didn't decide what to do but he stil has that immediate rematch clause which means Joshua can't take any fight until the situation with Wlad is cleared up and if Wlad opts for a rematch Joshua's duty is to give him. Simple as that. You can't seriously expect them to make a Wilder fight for the fall.

Sulaiman spoke on Wilder this week. And he's said nothing about Wilder-Whyte...but talked about how he wanted to see a unification with Joshua. So why not make that fight instead of a pointless sideshow fight with Whyte?

And being that IBF also has the "unification over mandatories" exemption as well...a unification can be made with Wilder if they really wanted the fight. THEY DON'T.

I don't know why they wouldn't want a unification where Joshua would be the clear favorite. They are trying to build up it a little while Joshua can't take voluntary fights.
Since you've been watching boxing for a long time (I guess from your posts about old HWs) idk why is it surprising to you that big fights usually don't happen immediately. They build them up, milk them etc... It is what it is but in this case that is not even a case. Joshua has a mandatory and a mandatory rematch per the contract. You can't expect the man to just break his contract and all his duties cause Wilder says so. IBF is the most rigorous organization. They already gave Joshua an exemption and I think even that didn't come easy, they take these mandatories extremely serious, not like the other 3 alphabet organizations. I think there's no way they would give 2 exemptions in a row. They should but they won't. [/QUOTE]

The fight is a goddamn waste of time and a sideshow...i don't give a damn about their money. I ain't touching or spending that shyt. I just want the best in the ring with the best on my TV screen and not continual mismatches like Wilder-Whyte...that's a fight you take only if Joshua isn't available, and as of right now, he is....but actually lobbying for Wilder-Whyte as if it's a worthwhile matchup. When the best fight in the division still has a window availability.

Wilder-Joshua doesn't even need no further promo...it sells itself. It was already highly in demand right after Klitschko-Joshua (and before)...no need to waste time with additional BS fights...but they WILL...and the fans and media will continue to provide cover.

It's not a waste of time if it brings us closer to a possible Joshua vs Wilder unification and given the fact that Joshua is busy atm, Wilder - if he's really allowed to not fight Stiverne immediately - could and should take that money and fight Whyte in the UK.
As far as quality Wilder's only clearly better opponent would be Luis Ortiz right now but that won't get made cause that woN't do any build up for Joshua vs Wilder...

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Somebody explain this to me.....how can someone who just defended his belt, in the Co-Main Event of a PPV for only 120k, be "lowballed" by being offered anything less than 400k?



Im not understanding this verbiage being thrown around in here

I said 400k should be appropriate. I never said that was low ball. C'mon breh, really 30 replies on a fight that won't get made? I just hope that if it does get made, he's paid fairly. Same way, although I hate KKKrusher, it's shytty to see Main Events fukking him over.

Ask @PJTech homie Tim Hauge.........boxing is bloodsport, we should always want fighters to get the most.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

I'm not a Rigo Fan but he's a champ and if they want him to fight Loma he should get payed, I feel the same way about Siri, he's more then earned it through out the years and the fights he has performed in, if they want him to fight their next "Star" Loma then they need to break bread

RNS is breaking him off with much more than his purse.

 

[Newzz]

My thing is this....yall running around saying what Rigo "should" be paid, but you're ignoring that he was fine being paid 120k by RNS to co main the PPV and defend his belt.

If he was worth what yall are saying, why didn't he ask for it from his own promoter to comain event? Why accept 120k knowing that RNS was giving SOG 6.5 mill?

350k or get out the way

 

[IVS]

Rigo is a p4p champion and is jumping up 2 divisions to fight another p4p guy. He needs to be compensated and shown respect... HBO and TR better not drop the ball on this shyt.. I'm thinking AT LEAST 500k

stop it. His ass should be lucky to be getting that 380k whatever esp if he made 120 for his last and that was a ppv. HTF and WhoTF he think he is. Rigo dont realize if he thinks he's so good, he'd take the most money he's made and he'd take the chance to get the exposure and big win this offers. It's silly really. Rigo may be on the p4p list but he aint really anybody as far as the money goes. NO EXCUSES...take the fight since he swears he'll win.

 

[Newzz]

stop it. His ass should be lucky to be getting that 380k whatever esp if he made 120 for his last and that was a ppv. HTF and WhoTF he think he is. Rigo dont realize if he thinks he's so good, he'd take the most money he's made and he'd take the chance to get the exposure and big win this offers. It's silly really. Rigo may be on the p4p list but he aint really anybody as far as the money goes. NO EXCUSES...take the fight since he swears he'll win.

His career high, Rigo, is 750k vs Donaire....but that was before he was officially stamped with the boring label. He still had no fanbase & wasn't even a TV draw, but he was perceived to be a superstar talent in the making.

Rigondeaux (11-0, 8 KO) is doing pretty well for himself with this one, considering he has no fan base, doesn't sell tickets, and despite some HBO hype and the endless love of Max Kellerman, hasn't really captured fans' imaginations, either.

Purses: Donaire $1.32M, Rigondeaux $750k

^^^That was over 4 years ago....and he's done nothing to change this except get no HBO hype, & be deemed boring. He still has no fanbase and doesn't sell tickets.


At the end of the day, him accepting $120k from his own promoter to co-main event a PPV in a championship bout vs an undefeated opponent, while his stablemate got $6.5 mill on the same card, was basically the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot



If SOG gets $6.5 million, and you only get $120k, what does that say for your position in the sport?

 

[L68]

Chavez Sr. Vows To Get Payback For The Murder of His Brother - Boxing News

 

[patscorpio]

Chavez Sr. Vows To Get Payback For The Murder of His Brother - Boxing News

im sure he knows who actually did it or behind by now..its going to be murder

 

[patscorpio]

Uzcategui's Agent on Dirrell Rematch Order, Lawson Court Case

By Ben Jacobs

On Monday, it was reported by BoxingScene.com that the International Boxing Federation [IBF] ordered a rematch between Jose Uzcategui and Andre Dirrell.

On May 20, Uzcategui was disqualified by referee Bill Clancy for landing a knockout punch after the bell on Dirrell, a contest that took place for the interim IBF world title at super middleweight.

Nevertheless, in a letter issued on Sunday, the IBF, having reviewed the tape, determined that the blow landed was unintentionally thrown after the bell. The remaining issue from the night are the legal proceedings which will take place against Dirrell’s uncle, Leon Lawson Jr, who in the post-fight mêlée struck Uzcátegui in the face in full view of the television cameras.

Uzcátegui’s agent, Sean Gibbons, provided BoxingScene.com with an update.

“We go to court on August 16, he (Lawson) will be tried that day.” Gibbons explained. “With something like this, it was a horrible thing, he should be made an example of, but the court system is about making deals so whatever he gets, even if he doesn’t do any time, he’ll get a lengthy probation. He’ll never be in the corner for a world title fight with any organisation again.”

As far as the officiating on the night is concerned, Gibbons expressed his disappointment at how the ending of the bout and indeed the post-fight situation was managed.

“I think Bill Clancy lost complete control of the situation, instead of stopping it he just let everybody pile in to the ring," Gibbons said.

“Tempers are hot and this guy (Lawson) just strolls across and whacks our guy. This was like the Richard Grant incident (who was knocked out post-fight by James Butler). The worst ever was Billy Collins.

“This was a horrible thing, he could have permanently injured him. Uzcátegui was kind of relaxed, he didn’t really see the punch which is worse and, he took a heavyweight shot. James DeGale is out for a while with an injury so it makes sense that the IBF would order a rematch.

“I don’t hold anything against Andre,” Sean continued. “He’s a nice guy but his brother Anthony is a wack job, he caused a lot of trouble. Uzcátegui was on his way to a decision or stoppage. He’s too young and too fresh. That Dirrell there is half shot, his reflexes aren’t quite what they were.”

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

My beef with Wilder is that all of sudden the HW division is popping now he wants in. He's been too busy fighting taxi drivers and substitute school teachers. Joshua probably would fight Wilder down the line. Joshua has better options cross the pond right now. If Wilder really want to put hisself on the scene he should be calling out Ortiz who to my knowledge doesn't have any fights lined up. Why call out Joshua when Joshua has mandatories and a rematch lined up. Wilder should call out Ortiz or fight Stiverne again while he waits on Joshua to clear up his schedule. Calling out Parker who everybody knows is the weakest champ dnt mean shyt. All the other HW making moves except Wilder. You can say people dnt want to fight him but he needs to fight the people that DO want to fight him in the meantime like Stiverne, Ortiz, Mansour.

On the Dylan White fight it was Wilder who was taking about the money. Wilder didn't say shyt about madatories and all that. He was only speaking on the money aspect like he could fight him if the money is right.

 

[1970s HeRon Flow]

My thing is this....yall running around saying what Rigo "should" be paid, but you're ignoring that he was fine being paid 120k by RNS to co main the PPV and defend his belt.

If he was worth what yall are saying, why didn't he ask for it from his own promoter to comain event? Why accept 120k knowing that RNS was giving SOG 6.5 mill?

350k or get out the way

It doesn't matter, if u want me to fight your star, pay me
JusT like when they fight Floyd Or canelo, shyt KiRkland got 1.3 million, for a NON TITLE FIGHT and he hadn't fought in 2 years
TR needs to open their wallets if they tryna get their Star exposure

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

His career high, Rigo, is 750k vs Donaire....but that was before he was officially stamped with the boring label. He still had no fanbase & wasn't even a TV draw, but he was perceived to be a superstar talent in the making.



^^^That was over 4 years ago....and he's done nothing to change this except get no HBO hype, & be deemed boring. He still has no fanbase and doesn't sell tickets.


At the end of the day, him accepting $120k from his own promoter to co-main event a PPV in a championship bout vs an undefeated opponent, while his stablemate got $6.5 mill on the same card, was basically the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot



If SOG gets $6.5 million, and you only get $120k, what does that say for your position in the sport?

I dnt understand how you can shyt on Rigo like that. Lowballing an opponent is quite frankly ducking an opponent nowadays. Rigo is top2 P4P and you want him fed peanuts. You using CAC media talking points breh. Rigo doesn't have a fan base because CAC media constantly shyts on him and says his fights are boring. You out here sounding like fat dan If you like boxing you can't honestly say Rigo fights are boring. Put some respect on RiGawd name breh.

 

[Axum Ezana]

My beef with Wilder is that all of sudden the HW division is popping now he wants in. He's been too busy fighting taxi drivers and substitute school teachers. Joshua probably would fight Wilder down the line. Joshua has better options cross the pond right now. If Wilder really want to put hisself on the scene he should be calling out Ortiz who to my knowledge doesn't have any fights lined up. Why call out Joshua when Joshua has mandatories and a rematch lined up. Wilder should call out Ortiz or fight Stiverne again while he waits on Joshua to clear up his schedule. Calling out Parker who everybody knows is the weakest champ dnt mean shyt. All the other HW making moves except Wilder. You can say people dnt want to fight him but he needs to fight the people that DO want to fight him in the meantime like Stiverne, Ortiz, Monsour.

On the Dylan White fight it was Wilder who was taking about the money. Wilder didn't say shyt about madatories and all that. He was only speaking on the money aspect like he could fight him if the money is right.

yeah thats my thing..if wbc doesn't mind him paying stiverne step aside money then he needs to fight whyte for 3 mill or he ducking.......

I would only give him a pass if wbc say they would definitely strip him. I mean ibf seems to be the only abc body really strict bout shyt like that.

and u right wilder aint say shyt bout him being stripped if he fights whyte.

 

[Newzz]

It doesn't matter, if u want me to fight your star, pay me

Rigo is calling Lomachenko out....not vice versa. Loma already swatted him away multiple times until Rigo agreed to come up to 130:








So, it Rigo REALLY wants the fight....he needs to accept whatever TR decides to offer him above 240k, instead posting about " #ShowMeTheMoney":







and now he STILL online asking how much do we think he should make








...it's plain as day he's looking for a big payday from TR again, especially being that he JUST got paid only $120,000 by his OWN promoter to co-main event a PPV defending his Championship vs an undefeated opponent, while his stable mate received $6.5 million

JusT like when they fight Floyd Or canelo, shyt KiRkland got 1.3 million, for a NON TITLE FIGHT and he hadn't fought in 2 years
TR needs to open their wallets if they tryna get their Star exposure

Please explain to me how fighting Rigo is going to get Lomachenko some exposure?



Exposure to whom?



Casuals don't watch Rigo, as evidenced by the fact he JUST got paid only $120,000 by his OWN promoter to co-main event a PPV defending his Championship vs an undefeated opponent, while his stable mate received $6.5 million

 

[Newzz]

I dnt understand how you can shyt on Rigo like that. Lowballing an opponent is quite frankly ducking an opponent nowadays. Rigo is top2 P4P and you want him fed peanuts. You using CAC media talking points breh. Rigo doesn't have a fan base because CAC media constantly shyts on him and says his fights are boring. You out here sounding like fat dan If you like boxing you can't honestly say Rigo fights are boring. Put some respect on RiGawd name breh.

Does Rigo have a fanbase? yes or no?


Does he sell tickets? yes or no?


Does he draw on TV? yes or no?


^^^^ If you cant answer yes to all 3 of them questions, then you understand exactly why he JUST got paid only $120,000 by his OWN promoter to co-main event a PPV defending his Championship vs an undefeated opponent, while his stable mate received $6.5 million............and what do you mean I want him fed peanuts, he agreed to that 120k payout.