Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[Newzz]

But....Spence can be touched.....triangle theories never work in boxing...but fukk Arum this will never happen. Prime Gamboa was the fastest nikka in the sport no shame getting tagged by him...Diaz imho didn't do a damn thing....that being said Spence is a whole other level of problems.

Let's be honest....Crawford is a WW masquerading as JWW.

I think Crawford has to prove himself at 147, before I put him over any of the current top 5 Welters (Spence, Thurman, Brook, Porter, Garcia).

Beating up smaller B & C fighters at 140 has no bearings on how he fares at 147 imo. I think he's a WW too.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

I think Crawford has to prove himself at 147, before I put him over any of the current top 5 Welters (Spence, Thurman, Brook, Porter, Garcia).

Beating up smaller B & C fighters at 140 has no bearings on how he fares at 147 imo. I think he's a WW too.

That's understandable. If Arum wasn't such a fukk boy and he can't get a Manny fight a good 147 fight would be (yeah he's washed) but Lucas then Collazo or Alexander or Porter. Heck him vs Broner.

 

[Newzz]

Diaz hasn't rocked shyt, Crawford wasn't in problem for a second there, Diaz probably hasn't win a single round, was taken to school like c'mon...

Crawford didnt get rocked at any point of the Diaz fight? He was just shut out...Diaz didn't visibly rock him at all and back him up, not 1 time in that fight? You sure?

Take your cape off sparky

I understand if you pick Spence it's not that, but don't act like Felix Diaz exposed anything on Crawford.

Did I say he exposed him? Or did I say he visibly rocked him?

and the Gamboa shyt... how long y'all gonna repeat that like a broken record? Yes he got reckless in a fight 3 fukking years ago, went for the kill and got clapped back and was on shaky legs for about idk 10 seconds or less?

Was he rocked or Not?

Dont tell me about no "3 years ago" when yall nikkas harp on about a SD loss Loma took 3 years ago whenever PBL is brought up....but I cant do the same for a smaller Gamboa rocking Crawford?:excuseme:


:forreal:

This is Canelo vs Jose Cotto category, Wilder vs Sconiers category, Ward vs Boone category, Thurman vs Collazo category, etc... when the fighter hasn't showed any significant weakness in punch resistance but their critics clinging in some irrelevant shyt which happened years ago, either a KD or not even a KD just them being shaken up for a short period of time in a round.

Crawford has a decent chin, not uncrackable but also not china we would know by now if he would have that.

How would you know? First of all, yall want to pretend the GRJ incident never happened.

Secondly, he's faced only 1 bum with a punch since that fight with Gamboa
....Molina.

Other than that he's faced Dulorme, Jean, Lundy, Postol, Diaz....none of them are punchers even CLOSE to the same area code as an Errol Spence Jr.


Yall acting like he could fukk with Spence at 147 cant be serious

 

[patscorpio]

i think lucas matthysse can ko errol spence

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Oh he could definitely beat Spence at 147 that's not even farfetched to think at all....getting tagged happens in fukkin boxing jeez nikkas act like a top fighter getting a punch landed or getting a bit shook is horrid or a sign of being weak....fukk Ward got tagged plenty of times...not everyone is Floyd or Whitaker....so what if Thurman or Crawford got hit a few times...did they get dropped or do the stanky leg? Did they not adjust?

 

[Bleed The Freak]

i think lucas matthysse can ko errol spence

Fight would go 2 rounds and you know it lmao.

 

[Newzz]

i think lucas matthysse can ko errol spence

Do we have to break another orbital bone & make another stan favorite quit around here?


#TruthSeekers

 

[Newzz]

Oh he could definitely beat Spence at 147 that's not even farfetched to think at all....getting tagged happens in fukkin boxing jeez nikkas act like a top fighter getting a punch landed or getting a bit shook is horrid or a sign of being weak....fukk Ward got tagged plenty of times...not everyone is Floyd or Whitaker....so what if Thurman or Crawford got hit a few times...did they get dropped or do the stanky leg? Did they not adjust?

Ive never seen Ward rocked by a smaller opponent...ever.


I've seen Crawford rocked twice by smaller guys and the GRJ incident is still there.


Yall comparing this man to SRL and shyt, but he may be more like Hitman....we dont know bc he's never faced a good fighter who was a good puncher and was his size. They fight at 147.


Spence vs Crawford may look like Hagler vs Hearns instead

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Ive never seen Ward rocked by a smaller opponent

Getting punched clean happens in boxing...Gamboa at that point was an "A" opponenent even if undersized.....and undefeated and (pause) a freakin stud.

How people can say that has a bearing on a 147 fight is laughable

 

[Champ_KW]

Bud out here fighting midgets. He's obviously talented, but I haven't seen enough outta him to say he's elite status. He can't be carrying midget bums like Diaz 10 rounds and have people realistically thinking he'd beat Spence who just walked down and took the soul of a 154 pounder.

 

[Newzz]

The jump from Junior Welterweight to Welterweight is the tied for the 3rd biggest jump in Boxing along with "JMW to MW" & "SMW to LHW".

Beating up smaller B & C fighters doesnt put you on the same pedestal as beating up larger A fighters at 147.

Get up to 147, put in some work, and then lets talk. Until then, its all 140 hype until its proven at 147...as it has always been for decades.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

The jump from Junior Welterweight to Welterweight is the tied for the 3rd biggest jump in Boxing along with "JMW to MW" & "SMW to LHW".

Beating up smaller B & C fighters doesnt put you on the same pedestal as beating up larger A fighters at 147.

Get up to 147, put in some work, and then lets talk. Until then, its all 140 hype until its proven at 147...as it has always been for decades.

I get that and agree....Top Rank has been awful for his opponent selection and I long ago said he needs only A opponents from here. See my posts in Crawford vs Diaz.

That being said my eyeball test tells me (and any boxing writer) he would do damage at 147...there's no way he wouldn't be competitive with Garcia Thurman Porter or Spence.

 

[Newzz]

Getting punched clean happens in boxing...Gamboa at that point was an "A" opponenent even if undersized.....and undefeated and (pause) a freakin stud.

No, he wasnt an A opponent. How? Because he beat an unproven Perez for a vacant belt?

He'd done nothing at 135, still hasnt done anything at 135 to this day, and was too small with chin & stamina issues.

How people can say that has a bearing on a 147 fight is laughable

Get rocked by a smaller fighter always has a bearing on if you eventually face the biggest, strongest opponent in a division 2 divisions higher...especially when that opponent is in his prime and just broke a man who is much bigger/stronger than Crawford as well.

 

[Newzz]

Bud out here fighting midgets. He's obviously talented, but I haven't seen enough outta him to say he's elite status. He can't be carrying midget bums like Diaz 10 rounds and have people realistically thinking he'd beat Spence who just walked down and took the soul of a 154 pounder.

Basically.


But, people love their "bud" around here....so Ima have to name these Bud stans the #WeedHeads bc they sounding high off Bud Crawford right now

 

[Newzz]

I get that and agree....Top Rank has been awful for his opponent selection and I long ago said he needs only A opponents from here. See my posts in Crawford vs Diaz.

That being said my eyeball test tells me (and any boxing writer) he would do damage at 147...there's no way he wouldn't be competitive with Garcia Thurman Porter or Spence.

Being competitive =/= winning though.


I agree he could compete...but he doesnt beat Spence and Im very iffy on him beating Thurman too.


Id like to see him beat Porter or Swift before I put him in the convo of either of those 2 guys (Spence & Thurman)