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I'm reading that if Floyd don't jump on the McGregor fight then McGregor going to pursue Manny.

This looks like leverage :ohhh:


If Bob gets wind of this I see him entertaining this due to the money it will make.
 

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Very good points but just like Jacobs bit the bullet to fight GGG, Andrade should do the same. How much money he's being offered ? :whoa:

Jacobs "bit the bullet to fight GGG"?


Jacobs got a career high, $1.75 million, to face GGG....GGG got $2.5 million. Member of Team Lara is saying that Andrade even for $300k is "A-Side money"....that's why I think they are low balling the offer:hubie:


Im sure Andrade would love to bite the same bullet that Jacobs did:wow:


That's for Team Lara to say but I can guarantee its more than enough to face Lara

We'll see when the numbers come out, but I believe they are throwing out lowball offers....if they have even offered, being that Andrade is saying they never even entered the negotiations stage, nobody can say what the offer to Andrade is:manny:


Team Lara could be lying breh...just like Lara himself did when he said he wanted to face Andrade by all means necessary this summer.
 

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@Newzz don't forget that Jermell just fought for 100K defending his WBC belt. Green belt $. He earned less than Valdez, Ramirez, and Magdaleno this weekend.
:scust:

They offering DA 25K but but he out priced himself
:pachaha:
 

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@Newzz don't forget that Jermell just fought for 100K defending his WBC belt. Green belt $. He earned less than Valdez, Ramirez, and Magdaleno this weekend.
:scust:

They offering DA 25K but but he out priced himself
:pachaha:

They probably offering $1 more than the $75,000 he got to face Jack Culcay on some "Price Is Right" stuff:dead:
 
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Jacobs "bit the bullet to fight GGG"?


Jacobs got a career high, $1.75 million, to face GGG....GGG got $2.5 million. Member of Team Lara is saying that Andrade even for $300k is "A-Side money"....that's why I think they are low balling the offer:hubie:


Im sure Andrade would love to bite the same bullet that Jacobs did:wow:




We'll see when the numbers come out, but I believe they are throwing out lowball offers....if they have even offered, being that Andrade is saying they never even entered the negotiations stage, nobody can say what the offer to Andrade is:manny:


Team Lara could be lying breh...just like Lara himself did when he said he wanted to face Andrade by all means necessary this summer.

@Newzz with the facts :wow:

But yea that's that new school ducking technique BUT IN THIS CASE it different correct me if I'm wrong but if Andrade the mandatory and it goes to purse bid he still ain't gne be looking at too much money with a 75/25 split. When you an unknown without any big promoters backing you, you gne have to bite the bullet :francis: Didn't charlo just make around 100k for his fight. And hatley made less than that.
 

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@Newzz with the facts :wow:

But yea that's that new school ducking technique BUT IN THIS CASE it different correct me if I'm wrong but if Andrade the mandatory and it goes to purse bid he still ain't gne be looking at too much money with a 75/25 split. When you an unknown without any big promoters backing you, you gne have to bite the bullet :francis: Didn't charlo just make around 100k for his fight. And hatley made less than that.

Jermell got 100K
Hatley got 85K

However they were a co main to Porter and Berto who got 1 and 1.2Ms. Lara will be the headliner there should be some decent money available.
 

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@Newzz with the facts :wow:

But yea that's that new school ducking technique BUT IN THIS CASE it different correct me if I'm wrong but if Andrade the mandatory and it goes to purse bid he still ain't gne be looking at too much money with a 75/25 split. When you an unknown without any big promoters backing you, you gne have to bite the bullet :francis: Didn't charlo just make around 100k for his fight. And hatley made less than that.

Well then, if Lara really wanted the fight like he claimed so, he'd be pushing the issue for a purse bid instead of free-hand negotiations which only benefit Andrade.



Andrade posted these 2 days ago, tagging the WBA in it to advise he wants the best......but WBA can only mandate people in the WBA rankings, especially Lara







WBA haven't responded to anything in relation to Lara/Andrade, not even Andrade tweets directly, so if they aren't going to mandate the fight....Lara is never going to willingly fight him. Regardless of what he said a couple months ago:







But since then, he's done nothing but stalk Jarrett Hurd and make :troll: posts in reference to Andrade......even when Hurd told him he'd fight him after he fights Andrade.
 

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Well then, if Lara really wanted the fight like he claimed so, he'd be pushing the issue for a purse bid instead of free-hand negotiations which only benefit Andrade.



Andrade posted these 2 days ago, tagging the WBA in it to advise he wants the best......but WBA can only mandate people in the WBA rankings, especially Lara







WBA haven't responded to anything in relation to Lara/Andrade, not even Andrade tweets directly, so if they aren't going to mandate the fight....Lara is never going to willingly fight him. Regardless of what he said a couple months ago:







But since then, he's done nothing but stalk Jarrett Hurd and make :troll: posts in reference to Andrade......even when Hurd told him he'd fight him after he fights Andrade.


True true Andrade just picked the wrong route to be real. Lara just all talk. Who really ducking a guy who think it's a track meet when the bell ring:hhh:. Idk how gave Lara this dangerous label anyway. He don't even pass the eye test with me at least Andrade do that. Obviously Lara content with just fighting mid level comp and calling out people with no intentions of fighting them. Yea Andrade best bet is try to get one of them other belts or take them crumbs to fight Lara. He in a tough spot. I know a Lara win will elevate him quicker in the boxing world but damn is he really going to sit on the shelf waiting on a Lara title shot
 

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Jacobs "bit the bullet to fight GGG"?


Jacobs got a career high, $1.75 million, to face GGG....GGG got $2.5 million. Member of Team Lara is saying that Andrade even for $300k is "A-Side money"....that's why I think they are low balling the offer:hubie:


Im sure Andrade would love to bite the same bullet that Jacobs did:wow:




We'll see when the numbers come out, but I believe they are throwing out lowball offers....if they have even offered, being that Andrade is saying they never even entered the negotiations stage, nobody can say what the offer to Andrade is:manny:


Team Lara could be lying breh...just like Lara himself did when he said he wanted to face Andrade by all means necessary this summer.
And in the Jacobs fights GGG got $2.5 million. Since Jacobs was the mandatory, GGG could have let the fight go to purse bid (risk losing TV rights) and it would have been a 75/25 split. Rumors were the fight was falling apart because Jacobs was holding firm at 40%. In the end Jacobs got $1.75 million of a $4.25 million purse...41% split. Jacobs' team did a great job negotiating IMO.

Lara-Andrade isn't a big money fight, but it is a fight that PBC or Showtime have to pay for the betterment of the sport. Agree with your stance, with the purse going around, both these guys deserve mid 6 figures. Honestly I think it is a fight the networks have to bite the bullet on to support the sport and provide clarity among the division. If we are waiting for Lara-Andrade to marinate to become something bigger, it will never happen, neither guy is ever going to be a mainstream draw. Unfortunately just how it is.
 

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True true Andrade just picked the wrong route to be real. Lara just all talk. Who really ducking a guy who think it's a track meet when the bell ring:hhh:. Idk how gave Lara this dangerous label anyway. He don't even pass the eye test with me at least Andrade do that. Obviously Lara content with just fighting mid level comp and calling out people with no intentions of fighting them. Yea Andrade best bet is try to get one of them other belts or take them crumbs to fight Lara. He in a tough spot. I know a Lara win will elevate him quicker in the boxing world but damn is he really going to sit on the shelf waiting on a Lara title shot


Im at the point where he needs to move on too.


Andrade should start calling out the ENTIRE Top 10 since Lara aint on it, and neither is Jermell Charlo. Maybe call out Austin Trout, J Rock, or someone else
 

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And in the Jacobs fights GGG got $2.5 million. Since Jacobs was the mandatory, GGG could have let the fight go to purse bid (risk losing TV rights) and it would have been a 75/25 split. Rumors were the fight was falling apart because Jacobs was holding firm at 40%. In the end Jacobs got $1.75 million of a $4.25 million purse...41% split. Jacobs' team did a great job negotiating IMO.

Lara-Andrade isn't a big money fight, but it is a fight that PBC or Showtime have to pay for the betterment of the sport. Agree with your stance, with the purse going around, both these guys deserve mid 6 figures. Honestly I think it is a fight the networks have to bite the bullet on to support the sport and provide clarity among the division. If we are waiting for Lara-Andrade to marinate to become something bigger, it will never happen, neither guy is ever going to be a mainstream draw. Unfortunately just how it is.

Agree:obama:
 

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Im at the point where he needs to move on too.


Andrade should start calling out the ENTIRE Top 10 since Lara aint on it, and neither is Jermell Charlo. Maybe call out Austin Trout, J Rock, or someone else

I completely agree. Andrade problem is that he is a high-risk low reward boxer and that he isn't with a big promoter so he basically fukked lol. Lara had the same problem but he harassed Canelo enough to get a shot and barely losing to Canelo was the thing that pushed him into being a "name" boxer(plus he is with allah so he got some inhouse fights to boost his resume). I like Andrade but he need to go a different route or he can gne end up like my man Rigo just sitting on social media calling people out fighting once every 18months :mjcry:
 

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Im at the point where he needs to move on too.


Andrade should start calling out the ENTIRE Top 10 since Lara aint on it, and neither is Jermell Charlo. Maybe call out Austin Trout, J Rock, or someone else
Calling out Lara is a fruitless endeavor. Lara himself talks a lot, but what he says rarely comes to fruition. You are right, if Lara is your only target, most likely you will stall your own career. Lara is a good fight and just like Rigo there certainly are people ducking them, but we have to be careful with the ducking tag, because if you wait on Lara or Rigo and "not duck" your own career may stall. Keep open conversation/negotiation lines with Lara, but if it doesn't happen you need to move on and I definitely won't think of it as a duck.
 
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