King P
Legends Never Die
Doubt either will be available for us.
We got 3 teams in front of us that need QBs (Browns, Niners, Bears). Plus the Jags are in a great position to trade down as well for a team that wants to trade up for a QB
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We got 3 teams in front of us that need QBs (Browns, Niners, Bears). Plus the Jags are in a great position to trade down as well for a team that wants to trade up for a QB
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
1.haggler was winning like a muthafukka and he was getting robbed. Monroe is the only one who beat him for real. rest were robberies.
haggler almost started a race war when he won....I forget who it was. but they almost jumped dude. they were racist as fukk against breh. but I forget yall act slow when nikkas talk about real racism in boxing.
2. funny he had no amateur rep but was like 85-1 and was supposed to fight Michael spinks but spinks or haggler lost in amatuers.(some info u don't know about im sure)
3. hagler fought 3 hofs ww. is kell brook a hof all time great nikka? ALL TIME GREAT!!!! he would have to fight Floyd and pac.......but there is no other atg so no he cant compare. plus Floyd and pac cant go to crusier or smw and win belts.
plus that wasn't an official belt back then....wbc was the official smw belt back then and they didn't sanctioned it to after hagler was flabby n sick(retired like black jesus said)
but even if ibf was okay...that's still only 3 years of not moving up while flabby n sick after being in 15 rd real man wars, not in your prime for 10 years at one division.
too easy.(I knew ur tryna ur hardest troll breh)
- He was robbed once. He took that draw to Sugar Ray & that L to Monroe. Facts.
- Link to Hagler having an 85-1 record as an amateur
Link to Hagler being heralded coming out the amateurs - The IBF was sanctioned in 1984 as the 3rd official sanctioning . The IBF Super Middleweight Championship was legit as of 1984. WBC didn't have SMW Championship until 88 & WBA not until 1994. Hagler didn't retire until June 1988 at 34 years old...and never thought about moving up to 168 at all. Forget Tate, Hagler could've moved up and faced Park at 168. His 3 biggest fights came against smaller guys in their very 1st fight moving up from a lower weight class. He never moved up himself though...just like GGG thus far. Just facts my man.
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malbaker86
Gators
yeah just hope yall don't pull a jaguar move.
they tryna get tom coughlin back to coach now after he won sb and got fired
Teal and black byke
One day we will be....one day
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
- He was robbed once. He took that draw to Sugar Ray & that L to Monroe. Facts.
- Link to Hagler having an 85-1 record as an amateur
- The IBF was sanctioned in 1984 as the 3rd official sanctioning . The IBF Super Middleweight Championship was legit as of 1984. WBC didn't have SMW Championship until 88 & WBA not until 1994. Hagler didn't retire until June 1988 at 34 years old...and never thought about moving up to 168 at all. Hell, he could've moved up and faced Frank Tate instead of waiting on a rematch with SRL. His 3 biggest fights came against smaller guys in their very 1st fight moving up from a lower weight class. He never moved up himself though.
1.what nikka? ray won. it should have been a draw last time i scored objectively tho to be honest.
2. yeah it was an interview he did(about the spinks fight).
u didn't say he wasn't heralded.....u said he had no rep at all imo. so I took it as u saying sucked as an amateur. I got his record from boxrec forums....they had all the hard to find records in a thread from all the popular boxers. ill find it and show ya.
3. ibf wasn't looked at as legit like IBO/wbgpc/wbhoh....etc now.
that's what ive been told....... but even then even if was looked as "official" that's only 3 years(, while already old buddy with a dominant career despite of bias. if a prime haggler waited for 10 years then u would have a point.
4.plus even after a real loss to Monroe he had to fight 22 more times to get a title shot.....unheard of. nikkas feared that man.
King P
Legends Never Die
I like Kaep, but I'm not sure he's salvageable at this point :ohwelp:maybe yall can take kap
SuikodenII
Where's Suikoden VI??????
No, I don't think so.@SuikodenII were you the one who set up a thread of these superlatives last year?
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
Best Amateur Record? - BoxRec some historians maybe said haggler went 55-1.
they got other boxers record on there too.
@patscorpio Donald curry might have the best american amauter record of all time a 404-4...better than mark breland 110-1
they got other boxers record on there too.
@patscorpio Donald curry might have the best american amauter record of all time a 404-4...better than mark breland 110-1
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
Creflo ½ Dollar
Superstar
Yea Allah Haymon dropped the ball with Wilder. Joshua leap frogged breh something serious and he faced better comp. I know Joshua has that UK backing but i feel like if haymon and co wouldnt have been p*ssyfooting and made that fight with klitschko which now we know was very winnable, that could have took American boxing off to be real. It seem like all them overseas HWs making news while Wilder keep defending his belt against random eurocacs with weak chins and cab drivers and shyt. As for black america i dnt think we have a bonafide super star on the horizon. Only if AB would take boxing serious all the time he got that it factor personality wise that we havent seen since floyd.
Really khan?
Brook will danny garcia you..
I am no khan hater..
But let that shyt marinate.
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........Sugar Ray Seales. He took that draw from Sugar Ray Seales & that L to Monroe breh.
- I'm saying he wasn't a heralded prospect coming out as an amateur. Being that he had no rep that proceeded him, and was a skilled leftie with power/chin/stamina, he was avoided for a long time....and him taking a draw with SRS & losing to Monroe did him 0 favors.
- Hagler retired at 34 and still could've continued if he wanted too, bc he wasn't even close to being washed (and even could've campaigned at 168). He retired mad at SRL for not running it back instead.
- I never denied Hagler was a feared MW...just like GGG is today. My thing was that his biggest fights came against guys from a lower weight class and in their first fights at Middleweight. Like GGG, he was extremely dominant at 160, but again like GGG (and even worse imo), he fought guys smaller than him but never took that same chance in return.
breland has the gold medal though..curry didnt..because of the boycottBest Amateur Record? - BoxRec some historians maybe said haggler went 55-1.
they got other boxers record on there too.
@patscorpio Donald curry might have the best american amauter record of all time a 404-4...better than mark breland 110-1
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
- I'm saying he wasn't a heralded prospect coming out as an amateur. Being that he had no rep that proceeded him, and was a skilled leftie with power/chin/stamina, he was avoided for a long time....and him taking a draw with SRS & losing to Monroe did him 0 favors.
- Hagler retired at 34 and still could've continued if he wanted too, bc he wasn't even close to being washed (and even could've campaigned at 168). He retired mad at SRL for not running it back instead.
- I never denied Hagler was a feared MW...just like GGG is today. My thing was that his biggest fights came against guys from a lower weight class and in their first fights at Middleweight. Like GGG, he was extremely dominant at 160, but again like GGG (and even worse imo), he fought guys smaller than him but never took that same chance in return.
1.okay. well I agree on some things but I don't think its fair to compare to ggg cause he didn't wait 10 years in his prime.
2.srl should have ran it back tho. only right. that's something his stans gonna have to deal with.
3.at that time hagler was 34 yes but that's when real boxers not on drugs start to decline. idk about anyone else but I watch hag close. dude looked out of prime vs sugar and mugabi to be honest. last prime hag imo was vs hearns.
4.u not getting the point. it didn't take no other fighter after they avenged their loss to get a title shot after 22 fights. ive seen fighters get title shots two or 3 fights after a loss. like cheating ass bute for example.
1.okay. well I agree on some things but I don't think its fair to compare to ggg cause he didn't wait 10 years in his prime.
2.srl should have ran it back tho. only right. that's something his stans gonna have to deal with.
3.at that time hagler was 34 yes but that's when real boxers not on drugs start to decline. idk about anyone else but I watch hag close. dude looked out of prime vs sugar and mugabi to be honest. last prime hag imo was vs hearns.
4.u not getting the point. it didn't take no other fighter after they avenged their loss to get a title shot after 22 fights. ive seen fighters get title shots two or 3 fights after a loss. like cheating ass bute for example.
4. Different era....less titles back then, unlike the 4 per division we have today (not including the interim/regular titles in each division)