Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[Newzz]

I ain't riding for nobody....im like Batman in this bytch I ride for justice

Same way I ride for AB more then I care to but right is right

As far as your for The Mexican Heros negotiations


Them ass whoopings you been getting trying to for Andrade got you looking .... I beat the damn prime outta @Newzz got him out here like Bhop after getting ko out the ring "Choc pushed me "



The Mexican Hero...The Great One...is working with Canelo for a catchweight, GGG did not, Jccjr has PPV hits on his resume GGG does not...Jccjr has mexico N a legendary last name GGG does not

GBP is not offering 15 damn million to Chavez Jr...they offering less then Sergio Martinez

Same exact stance as The AB Manny shyt....struggling Aside ppv sales needs Name Bside who can draw to do numbers.... You pay that man the cost of doing business

Even Reflex says Jccjr deserves a piece of ppv :Jccjr:














Down goes @Newzz Down goes @Newzz

 

[patscorpio]

bet yall miss fat andy now

and that motherfukker is winning..honestly we ran our course with him...it was time to move on

 

[Axum Ezana]

and that motherfukker is winning..honestly we ran our course with him...it was time to move on

yeah just hope yall don't pull a jaguar move.

they tryna get tom coughlin back to coach now after he won sb and got fired

 

[Jello Biafra]

Is Mikey Garcia being disrespected by Ring Magazine

James don't sound too good when he talks. Hopefully Ann can get him to box smart against Cotto but I am pretty sure he will just come out going balls to wall the way he always does.

And I don't know what Mikey is bytching about. You were on sabbatical for 2 years and some change and your only fight in 2016 is against Elio Rojas....where the fukk did you think you would be ranked?

 

[Jello Biafra]

Its a shame that Beterbiev's promoter sucks because if he were with anyone else he would be a much bigger star and mentioned in the same breath as Kovalev, Ward, Adonis etc.
Its like dude is an afterthought.

 

[Axum Ezana]

Its a shame that Beterbiev's promoter sucks because if he were with anyone else he would be a much bigger star and mentioned in the same breath as Kovalev, Ward, Adonis etc.
Its like dude is an afterthought.

but I think he got the same promoter (yvon Michel I think) as Adonis.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Breh where on the internet does triple g not get props? Legit question.

Thats what I am trying to figure out. Golovkin has been getting superstar treatment from the majority of boxing media and fans for the longest.
When his best win was Gabe Rosado people had Golovkins nuts gurgling in their mouths like he was a HOFer now all of a suddden he is some unsung boxer who doesn't get the props he deserves from the majority of the boxing public?

 

[Newzz]

dude u always bring that up.

I knew it would hit you

there was no 168.

Yes there was...Duran was fighting at 168 the very next month after Hagler/SRL

hagler was too small for 175. I already said that he weighed in for title fights under 160 all the time!!! theres proof...just watch his fights.

Hagler was too small for Light Heavyweight, but not Duran, Hearns, or SRL

plus no one drags anyone up. hagler wasn't even bigger than none of those guys ppv wise....fans liked him but not more than the other 3.

They all fought Hagler in their very 1st fight at 160. They all challenged themselves to be great by moving up in weight multiple times.....

hearns/duran/ray all went up past MW and won titles....proving they were bigger than hagler anyways.

:forreal:

hearns had KOs at cruiserweight, but he small?

Hearns had never even fought at 160 when he faced Hagler....he was a 154lber. Hagler was a career 160lber. Hearns was the smaller man in the ring on fight night as well.

I don't think monzon moved up either but I don't know his full story. but like I said there was no 168 back then. no ones asking ggg to move up to 175 or hw like they did hagler/monzon. all we said was move up to 168.

1984....IBF crowned the first Super Middleweight Champion. Marvin Hagler didn't retire until 1987. That's 3 years where he could've moved up, but instead he fought a Junior Middleweight in 1985 was then chasing a retired Welterweight. Kind of like if GGG never moves up and just waits for Floyd to fight him at the full 160 limit

plus hagler division better than today cause the talent that would be at 168 was at 160, plus 154 always was there. then u had legends from 147 moving up.

All these guys moved up to 160 and lost to the beast at 160..........but the beast refused to ever move up. Marvelous Golovkin

Then yall gloss over that hagler couldn't get a title fight(until he had 50 fights), but u excuse ggg from moving up just cause hes ducked sometimes....lol

Hagler was a loser at first...he had to prove and earn his shot breh

He debuted, unheralded, in 1973 and had his title shot in 1979. That's not bad at all, especially considering he lost 2x and had a draw within his 1st 6 years as a Boxer & had no amateur rep either to prop him up. PLUS, he was a skilled leftie with power and a chin, so yes, the other MWs avoided him.

Where have I excused GGG for not moving up though?

I've always stated he needs to move up and face the bigger opponents at 168, so I don't know where you got that from

GGG don't got hagler/mozon situation so u cant do a good comparison unless they have exactly the same situation. they don't.

GGG and Hagler's situation isn't exactly the same, because Hagler fought smaller fighters 3x, and each time, it was against them in their very 1st fight at 160. Only person GGG has done that too was Kell Brook.


GGG would have to also face Errol Spence and Danny Garcia at 160 before I can say it's the exact same situation I guess

 

[Jello Biafra]

damn quillen speaking that real. rare today from these scary athletes.

we do need to wonder why blacks don't support blacks in boxing as much tho.

what is it in your opinion @SuikodenII ? is just black fans are more into nfl/nba? or there is no black showmen/skilled boxer to draw them to the sport?

this is a interesting question that people like to dodge for some reason but we need to talk about it.

Black boxing fans fall into two categories...we support based on shared tribe (city/state, nationality) so you see Haitians supporting Haitian fighters, Philly dudes support Philly fighters etc. And the other thing is if you are flashy as fukk like a Floyd or Adrian Broner then dudes stan solely for the flashy swag and nothing else.

But when it comes to people who are not into boxing it becomes a different situation because boxing has become a marginalized niche sport that most people in general don't look for. I think the only way boxing can grow is for the promoters/networks/Alphabet orgs to realize that the days of each of them having their own space in the boxing universe are over and for this sport to grow it needs to become a unified sport where all fighters are available to fight one another regardless of who they are tied to. For the greater good of everyone involved the days of siloing fighters needs to die.

And then someone needs to teach these motherfukkers how to market the sport properly for todays audience because everyone is pretty damn shytty when it comes to marketing boxing to the masses,

 

[Jello Biafra]

for a while america had 2 american born black heavyweight champions this year at the same time...one who wasnt that good and the other who, talent level be damned, should be bigger than what he is now

As much as I shyt on every aspect of Deontay Wilder's career, it is insane that Allah Haymon has not marketed him better. Sure Wilder is a bama ass much mouth who can barely string together one coherent sentence but he is still a young, exciting, US heavyweight champ with devastating KO power. How the fukk is he less known than some mongoloid middleweight from Outer fukkistan who looks like the dude from Mad Magazine?
That is shameful.

 

[Axum Ezana]

I knew it would hit you




Yes there was...Duran was fighting at 168 the very next month after Hagler/SRL



Hagler was too small for Light Heavyweight, but not Duran, Hearns, or SRL


They all fought Hagler in their very 1st fight at 160. They all challenged themselves to be great by moving up in weight multiple times.....


:forreal:


Hearns had never even fought at 160 when he faced Hagler....he was a 154lber. Hagler was a career 160lber. Hearns was the smaller man in the ring on fight night as well.


1984....IBF crowned the first Super Middleweight Champion. Marvin Hagler didn't retire until 1987. That's 3 years where he could've moved up, but instead he fought a Junior Middleweight in 1985 was then chasing a retired Welterweight. Kind of like if GGG never moves up and just waits for Floyd to fight him at the full 160 limit


All these guys moved up to 160 and lost to the beast at 160..........but the beast refused to ever move up. Marvelous Golovkin


Hagler was a loser at first...he had to prove and earn his shot breh

He debuted, unheralded, in 1973 and had his title shot in 1979. That's not bad at all, especially considering he lost 2x and had a draw within his 1st 6 years as a Boxer & had no amateur rep either to prop him up.

Where have I excused GGG for not moving up though?

I've always stated he needs to move up and face the bigger opponents at 168, so I don't know where you got that from



GGG and Hagler's situation isn't exactly the same, because Hagler fought smaller fighters 3x, and each time, it was against them in their very 1st fight at 160. Only person GGG has done that too was Kell Brook.


GGG would have to also face Errol Spence and Danny Garcia at 160 before I can say it's the exact same situation I guess

1.haggler was winning like a muthafukka and he was getting robbed. Monroe is the only one who beat him for real. rest were robberies.

haggler almost started a race war when he won....I forget who it was. but they almost jumped dude. they were racist as fukk against breh. but I forget yall act slow when nikkas talk about real racism in boxing.

2. funny he had no amateur rep but was like 85-1 and was supposed to fight Michael spinks but spinks or haggler lost in amatuers. (some info u don't know about im sure)

3. hagler fought 3 hofs ww. is kell brook a hof all time great nikka? ALL TIME GREAT!!!! he would have to fight Floyd and pac.......but there is no other atg so no he cant compare. plus Floyd and pac cant go to crusier or smw and win belts.

plus that wasn't an official belt back then....wbc was the official smw belt back then and they didn't sanctioned it to after hagler was flabby n sick(retired like black jesus said)

but even if ibf was okay...that's still only 3 years of not moving up while flabby n sick after being in 15 rd real man wars, not in your prime for 10 years at one division.

too easy.(I knew ur tryna ur hardest troll breh)

 

[patscorpio]

As much as I shyt on every aspect of Deontay Wilder's career, it is insane that Allah Haymon has not marketed him better. Sure Wilder is a bama ass much mouth who can barely string together one coherent sentence but he is still a young, exciting, US heavyweight champ with devastating KO power. How the fukk is he less known than some mongoloid middleweight from Outer fukkistan who looks like the dude from Mad Magazine?
That is shameful.

at that description

 

[Jello Biafra]

what happened? that's weird yall started out so good.

remember u teasing me and saying that's eagles was the best team

We got one of the shyttiest secondarys in the sport.
The O line is held together by chicken wire and duct tape.
Our WRs would be waived by Arena League teams.
The QB coach seems to be reinforciing bad habits with our rookie QB because he has regressed every week since the bye.
The head coach needs to give up calling the Offensive plays because he is not good at it.
The majority of our LBs can't read a defense.
I could go on but I just made myself really sad typing this all out.

 

[Jello Biafra]

but I think he got the same promoter (yvon Michel I think) as Adonis.

I always forget that Allah is only a "manager" and most of his fighters have half-ass promoters. but we all know who is promoting Adonis.

 

[Jello Biafra]

1.haggler was winning like a muthafukka and he was getting robbed. Monroe is the only one who beat him for real. rest were robberies.

haggler almost started a race war when he won....I forget who it was. but they almost jumped dude. they were racist as fukk against breh. but I forget yall act slow when nikkas talk about real racism in boxing.

2. funny he had no amateur rep but was like 85-1 and was supposed to fight Michael spinks but spinks or haggler lost in amatuers. (some info u don't know about im sure)

3. hagler fought 3 hofs ww. is kell brook a hof all time great nikka? ALL TIME GREAT!!!! he would have to fight Floyd and pac.......but there is no other atg so no he cant compare. plus Floyd and pac cant go to crusier or smw and win belts.

plus that wasn't an official belt back then....wbc was the official smw belt back then and they didn't sanctioned it to after hagler was flabby n sick(retired like black jesus said)

but even if ibf was okay...that's still only 3 years of not moving up while flabby n sick after being in 15 rd real man wars, not in your prime for 10 years at one division.

too easy.(I knew ur tryna ur hardest troll breh)

for defending the Marvelous One against this slander @Newzz keeps trying to throw his way.