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The scoring for Ward is much wider here then anywhere else breh... Twitter, other forums, Real life :manny:


I'm happy Ward won...y'all know how I feel bout Duva N her daughter :pacspit:


But There was a ton of crazy cards in the fight thread that had me :dwillhuh:

This the only place I know where nikkas got Ward winning by some land slide margin. Same place where Pac barely wins 2 rds against Floyd.

Same place that had Theopane competitive with Broner when he only landed a couple shots.

Same place that had Vargas competitive with Pac even when he only won 3 rounds at best

Same place where Herrera wins 10 rds against Swift because he unlocked Holmes jab midway during the fight.

I love my ring brehs,:salute:
but for the most part I don't fukk with a lot of the scorecards that be in here. :manny: shyt just be too extreme sometimes. Like nikkas lean towards or give the benefit of the doubt too much to certain styles.
 

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This the only place I know where nikkas got Ward winning by some land slide margin. Same place where Pac barely wins 2 rds against Floyd.

Same place that had Theopane competitive with Broner when he only landed a couple shots.

Same place that had Vargas competitive with Pac even when he only won 3 rounds at best

Same place where Herrera wins 10 rds against Swift because he unlocked Holmes jab midway during the fight.

I love my ring brehs,:salute:
but for the most part I don't fukk with a lot of the scorecards that be in here. :manny: shyt just be too extreme sometimes. Like nikkas lean towards or give the benefit of the doubt too much to certain styles.

yeah I hate kkkovaL but I had it close.......and also I want a rematch.:ohlawd:
 

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So I finished watching Holyfield - Lews I and two things :
- What do you guys think of the decision ?
- Wasn't Lewis' groin protector way too high ?
 

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This the only place I know where nikkas got Ward winning by some land slide margin. Same place where Pac barely wins 2 rds against Floyd.

Same place that had Theopane competitive with Broner when he only landed a couple shots.

Same place that had Vargas competitive with Pac even when he only won 3 rounds at best

Same place where Herrera wins 10 rds against Swift because he unlocked Holmes jab midway during the fight.

I love my ring brehs,:salute:
but for the most part I don't fukk with a lot of the scorecards that be in here. :manny: shyt just be too extreme sometimes. Like nikkas lean towards or give the benefit of the doubt too much to certain styles.
I only share the Pac - Vargas one
Pac won but looked like shyt (against Vargas) :yeshrug: but that 2 rounds against Floyd also isn't that far from the truth. He won maybe 3 imo but he was an easier looking fight for Mayweather than let's say Maidana I where Maidana won 5 rounds imo.

Kovalev vs Ward was a close fight where I had Ward and no problem with someone thinking Kovalev won just don't cry foul...
 

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I only share the Pac - Vargas one
Pac won but looked like shyt (against Vargas) :yeshrug: but that 2 rounds against Floyd also isn't that far from the truth. He won maybe 3 imo but he was an easier looking fight for Mayweather than let's say Maidana I where Maidana won 5 rounds imo.

Kovalev vs Ward was a close fight where I had Ward and no problem with someone thinking Kovalev won just don't cry foul...

We'll just agree to disagree breh.

Pac didn't look good, but he beat Vargas rather easily like 9 rds to 3. It seems like nikkas gave Vargas the benefit of the doubt too much just because Pac didn't look spectacular and shyt. It's pretty much the reason Pac got robbed in the first Bradley fight. For some reason the judges and nikkas in general can't stand to see the boxer version of Manny even though he's still effective. Cats still expect him to throw 800 punches and blitz cats and when he doesn't it somehow turns into a close fight when in reality it isn't.

I'll never take any MayPac scorecard serious that has Pac winning less than 4 rounds. Any less and it gives Floyd the benefit of the doubt too much on defense. Like the Castillo rematch, I saw a close fight up until the 11th and 12th where Floyd took over. :manny:

Whats crazy about the Chino/Floyd fight is that some nikkas here only had Maidana winning 3 rds in the 1st fight. Whereas most people everywhere else had him winning anywhere from 4 to 6 rounds. I don''t think it was a harder fight for Floyd. He never fought scary/nervous and pretty much did what he wanted after the 6th rd. But, that's just me.

At the end of the day, the right guy won in those fights (Floyd) so there's no need for nikkas (not saying you) to go back and forth about the margin of winning for fights that weren't even great to watch.

Kovalev wasn't robbed, but I do feel like he was robbed of the 10th rd from the judges. Fight was close tho so whatever.

Imo, The ring like Malignaggi, sides heavily with the boxer (style) in most of these match ups and will usually favor them in the scorecards. Which is cool if thats your preference, but a lot of times cats be extra with it when it's a fighter they stan or hate.

nikkas will act like it's inconceivable for Swift to have won 7 rds against PED or Herrera, but will still find a way to give Ward 9 rds even when he was dropped too during a fight where both cats were holding back on offense.

and this is why nikkas scream robbery so much, because their bias for one style of boxing is so strong that they can't envision the other side of the spectrum being effective.

Just my 2 cents
 

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We'll just agree to disagree breh.

Pac didn't look good, but he beat Vargas rather easily like 9 rds to 3. It seems like nikkas gave Vargas the benefit of the doubt too much just because Pac didn't look spectacular and shyt. It's pretty much the reason Pac got robbed in the first Bradley fight. For some reason the judges and nikkas in general can't stand to see the boxer version of Manny even though he's still effective. Cats still expect him to throw 800 punches and blitz cats and when he doesn't it somehow turns into a close fight when in reality it isn't.

I'll never take any MayPac scorecard serious that has Pac winning less than 4 rounds. Any less and it gives Floyd the benefit of the doubt too much on defense. Like the Castillo rematch, I saw a close fight up until the 11th and 12th where Floyd took over. :manny:

Whats crazy about the Chino/Floyd fight is that some nikkas here only had Maidana winning 3 rds in the 1st fight. Whereas most people everywhere else had him winning anywhere from 4 to 6 rounds. I don''t think it was a harder fight for Floyd. He never fought scary/nervous and pretty much did what he wanted after the 6th rd. But, that's just me.

At the end of the day, the right guy won in those fights (Floyd) so there's no need for nikkas (not saying you) to go back and forth about the margin of winning for fights that weren't even great to watch.

Kovalev wasn't robbed, but I do feel like he was robbed of the 10th rd from the judges. Fight was close tho so whatever.

Imo, The ring like Malignaggi, sides heavily with the boxer (style) in most of these match ups and will usually favor them in the scorecards. Which is cool if thats your preference, but a lot of times cats be extra with it when it's a fighter they stan or hate.

nikkas will act like it's inconceivable for Swift to have won 7 rds against PED or Herrera, but will still find a way to give Ward 9 rds even when he was dropped too during a fight where both cats were holding back on offense.

and this is why nikkas scream robbery so much, because their bias for one style of boxing is so strong that they can't envision the other side of the spectrum being effective.

Just my 2 cents


yeah I feel sometimes its style preference, sometimes its stan war shyt, sometimes people don't know how to score and sometimes nikkas are high as fukk tryna score n shyt.lol

I gave Garcia 7-5 win over Herrera. but I had him losing to Peterson like 8-4 type shyt.

ill also review the pac may fight cause I honestly at most gave pac 3-4 rds.

I respect ur opinion tho so ill go and rewatch them cause I know u a legit boxing head.
 

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yeah I feel sometimes its style preference, sometimes its stan war shyt, sometimes people don't know how to score and sometimes nikkas are high as fukk tryna score n shyt.lol

I gave Garcia 7-5 win over Herrera. but I had him losing to Peterson like 8-4 type shyt.

ill also review the pac may fight cause I honestly at most gave pac 3-4 rds.

I respect ur opinion tho so ill go and rewatch them cause I know u a legit boxing head.

I had Herrera beating Swift 7rds to 5, but had Swift beating PED 7rds to 5. I even posted before the fight stating that Lamont needed to take it to Danny from the get go (similar to how he fought **** after the 3rd round) in order to win. When the fight actually happened, PED looked his best once he stopped boxing and dominated Swift whenever he pressured him. With that said he still started too late for me to say he won.

I still don't think he got robbed tho. My pops and father in law both thought he edged it, but understood he needed to start sooner so they weren't mad at the scores.

Thanks breh. I respect your opinion as well breh. I'm not even saying to rewatch MayPac (cuz it wasn't some great fight like that to bother doing so) but nikkas shouldn't act like it's crazy if someone gave Pac 4 or 5 rounds. It was a super tactical fight that had a lot of posturing and shyt where a few offensive bursts could swing the round in someone's favor (and if you favor a certain style, you might give that person the round)

I mean, think about it. Floyd's pops was right there and he saw it as close and his son fighting scary, but somehow a lot of cats here saw it as some 10 rd sweep domination. This is why Floyd always says cats like Crawford and others can't sleep on Pac even at this stage because he knew how cautiously perfect he had to box in order to win. That really just illustrates how great he is, because he may have made it look easy to some, but it wasn't.

but you right, a lot of different shyt factors into how cats score fights here. I just try to be objective with it so I can fully appreciate what both boxers are giving their life for while in the ring.

Right now, i rather see a Swift/PED rematch than Ward/Kovalev 2. but I'm still happy Thurman getting his crack at dude.
 

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So I finished watching Holyfield - Lews I and two things :
- What do you guys think of the decision ?
- Wasn't Lewis' groin protector way too high ?
One of the worst in history. I can't think of any other heavyweight robbery as bad as that off top...

If the ref allows it, some fighters wear their protector high. However, the trade off is that the ref usually won't call low blows unless it's really low
 

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If the ref allows it, some fighters wear their protector high. However, the trade off is that the ref usually won't call low blows unless it's really low
Does a boxer still feel the punches to the body when they hit the protector ?
 

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I had Herrera beating Swift 7rds to 5, but had Swift beating PED 7rds to 5. I even posted before the fight stating that Lamont needed to take it to Danny from the get go (similar to how he fought **** after the 3rd round) in order to win. When the fight actually happened, PED looked his best once he stopped boxing and dominated Swift whenever he pressured him. With that said he still started too late for me to say he won.

I still don't think he got robbed tho. My pops and father in law both thought he edged it, but understood he needed to start sooner so they weren't mad at the scores.

Thanks breh. I respect your opinion as well breh. I'm not even saying to rewatch MayPac (cuz it wasn't some great fight like that to bother doing so) but nikkas shouldn't act like it's crazy if someone gave Pac 4 or 5 rounds. It was a super tactical fight that had a lot of posturing and shyt where a few offensive bursts could swing the round in someone's favor (and if you favor a certain style, you might give that person the round)

I mean, think about it. Floyd's pops was right there and he saw it as close and his son fighting scary, but somehow a lot of cats here saw it as some 10 rd sweep domination. This is why Floyd always says cats like Crawford and others can't sleep on Pac even at this stage because he knew how cautiously perfect he had to box in order to win. That really just illustrates how great he is, because he may have made it look easy to some, but it wasn't.

but you right, a lot of different shyt factors into how cats score fights here. I just try to be objective with it so I can fully appreciate what both boxers are giving their life for while in the ring.

Right now, i rather see a Swift/PED rematch than Ward/Kovalev 2. but I'm still happy Thurman getting his crack at dude.

1.that talk comes from pac/jmm4 fight. but jmm had fought many 3 times before in close fights...he knew him In and out better than may probably...lol

2.im starting to think this Thurman/swift fight gonna be very controversial unless there is a KO, just like swift/ped.

do u have a prediction yet for Thurman or any gameplan? I say a 7-5 type win for Thurman.

I also noticed something in that swift/ped fight. Garcia actually did better when ped was moving n boxing. but Garcia looked borderline shook when ped started coming in close for him and throwing body shots and banging. weird.lol
 
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