Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
By then Joshua should have beaten Brehzeale, Stiverne, Parker/Takam winner N David Haye in a huge UK fight
Wilder should have beaten Povetkin and others
It would do numbers
It'll do numbers in the UK...shyt would flop terribly in the U.S.
In a year? I don't know, I do believe a heavyweight fight would generate a lot of hype, especially because the fight is almost guaranteed to have a lot of action.
Also, Wilders national visibility actually surprises me -- he was getting a lot of love after beating up Duhaupas. I actually had a lot of homies telling me about him.
Give it a year and they both stay active? With the US-Brit rivalry in the heavyweight division and both undefeated fighters with high KO percentages?
Its gonna do numbers breh.
It'd just be such an easy fight to sell breh. Both won medals at the Olympics, have highlight reel KOs, plus its a legitimately interesting matchup.
@LeVraiPapi got me excited about a fight that's not even being negotiated.
It should happen though. Makes sense why Showtime was going hard to secure a deal with Joshua. Can't have the HBO Showtime beef get in the way of those $$$
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That fight should be built up with a doubleheader, and a USA/UK press tour. If they use the whole who's the next great heavyweight and run the best from the US vs the best from the UK angle, I bet they could do 500k in ppvs.
They should prolly do the US vs UK theme for the undercard too.
Turbo Fists vs Lee Sellby type shyt.
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
In a year? I don't know, I do believe a heavyweight fight would generate a lot of hype, especially because the fight is almost guaranteed to have a lot of action.
Also, Wilders national visibility actually surprises me -- he was getting a lot of love after beating up Duhaupas. I actually had a lot of homies telling me about him.
Give it a year and they both stay active? With the US-Brit rivalry in the heavyweight division and both undefeated fighters with high KO percentages?
Its gonna do numbers breh.
Pretty Much
We talkin a year from now... Atleast 3-4 more fights each fighter
People will demand it...haters will say Wilder is scary/ducking will get knocked out N they will buy it
ESPN would cover it etc etc...
a wish/fantsasy type but keep it 100..if it is staged in london/UK..then have kell brook in the double header vs maybe a thurman? Hearn will never do that..
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Since you follow him the closest, what is your best opinion on how his legal issues affect his career short and long term?AB said he returning in August
edit: Should add the intent of my question is related around how his legal drama is expected to unfold and his ability to get fights whether he is in prison, parole, or just distracted due to dealing with all the issues.
If you want to take it further and have other thoughts of things going all, feel free.
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GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
@krackdagawd
Notes: Will Ward fight again before Kovalev showdown?
There is no deal yet, but Roc Nation Sports and HBO are working on one to have Andre Ward (29-0, 15 KOs) fight July 9 or July 16 at the Oracle Arena in his hometown of Oakland, California. It would be Ward’s final interim bout before a November HBO PPV showdown with unified light heavyweight titlist Sergey Kovalev in a fight that is already signed. Kovalev’s final interim bout is against Isaac Chilemba on July 11 in Ekaterinburg, Russia. It is possible that Ward could sit, however, because there is very little money to make a fight for him given HBO’s budget constraints. Roc Nation approached Golden Boy about contender Vyacheslav Shabranskyy (16-0, 13 KOs) facing Ward, but they were way apart on the money.
I hope Ward gets another tune up. He may have to compromise a bit and take less money. Probably worth it even if it is against a bum fighter just to get more comfortable at the weight and in the ring again. I want Ward-Kovalev to be lit. No excuses, just head to head two top 10 PFP fighters.
Notes: Will Ward fight again before Kovalev showdown?
There is no deal yet, but Roc Nation Sports and HBO are working on one to have Andre Ward (29-0, 15 KOs) fight July 9 or July 16 at the Oracle Arena in his hometown of Oakland, California. It would be Ward’s final interim bout before a November HBO PPV showdown with unified light heavyweight titlist Sergey Kovalev in a fight that is already signed. Kovalev’s final interim bout is against Isaac Chilemba on July 11 in Ekaterinburg, Russia. It is possible that Ward could sit, however, because there is very little money to make a fight for him given HBO’s budget constraints. Roc Nation approached Golden Boy about contender Vyacheslav Shabranskyy (16-0, 13 KOs) facing Ward, but they were way apart on the money.
I hope Ward gets another tune up. He may have to compromise a bit and take less money. Probably worth it even if it is against a bum fighter just to get more comfortable at the weight and in the ring again. I want Ward-Kovalev to be lit. No excuses, just head to head two top 10 PFP fighters.
LeVraiPapi
Redemption is Coming
Watch the interview and put yourself in his promoters place ? The guy is basically stupid and not smart at all. We get the vibe that he has more respect for J Prince than Al because J Prince is a street guy. That's how dumb the dude is. I heard Broner go on a rant for a full hour because peole told him to stop hanging around rappers. Dude basically said nobody should be telling him what to do cuz he's an adult bUT then acts like a child and never learns from his mistakes. Meanwhile he was taking advice from Wayne who's a drug addict
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
Thats the problem
Listenin to the interview hes like Floyd ain't a mentor... These people I look up to N tell me when im doing something wrong
But he don't listen to them anyway N still acts a fool
"You regret getting that DUI??"
AB - "No"
I truely believe AB is a good dude but he got issues like a muhfukker
In a year? I don't know, I do believe a heavyweight fight would generate a lot of hype, especially because the fight is almost guaranteed to have a lot of action.
Also, Wilders national visibility actually surprises me -- he was getting a lot of love after beating up Duhaupas. I actually had a lot of homies telling me about him.
Give it a year and they both stay active? With the US-Brit rivalry in the heavyweight division and both undefeated fighters with high KO percentages?
Its gonna do numbers breh.
It'd just be such an easy fight to sell breh. Both won medals at the Olympics, have highlight reel KOs, plus its a legitimately interesting matchup.
@LeVraiPapi got me excited about a fight that's not even being negotiated.
It should happen though. Makes sense why Showtime was going hard to secure a deal with Joshua. Can't have the HBO Showtime beef get in the way of those $$$
Yall are once again underestimating how hard it is to sell PPV's...i remember how the majority of yall were sayin GGG was going to do around 500k buys against Lemuiex and no less than 300k because yall were horribly misreading all the e-buzz
If you don't have a large ethnic nationalist following and an opponent that has the same or is known and has casual fan recognition you aint gonna do shyt on PPV.
Nobody knows who the hell Joshua is in the U.S. and beating Breazeale, Stiverne, Haye etc. ain't gonna help raise his profile...because who the hell are these guys? (to the casual American sports fan)
Wilder is still barely known to the general public...beating Povetkin aint gonna change a damn thing...because who the hell is Povetkin? (to the casual American sports fan)
Lennox only did 400k on PPV against Tua back when boxing was in consciousness of the general sports fan ...both were more known & popular then than Wilder is today...but Wilder is supposed to be able to do a similar number against a guy that NOBODY KNOWS in the U.S. because he beat Breazeale, Stiverne & Haye?
Circumstances could change in a year or two...but i seriously doubt it...
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Fully adjusted 175 #SOGGANG
We gonna fukk around and put that racist demon on his ass a few times when we UD him.
Now accepting all forms of bets for this fight.
LeVraiPapi
Redemption is Coming
Thats the problem
Listenin to the interview hes like Floyd ain't a mentor... These people I look up to N tell me when im doing something wrong
But he don't listen to them anyway N still acts a fool
"You regret getting that DUI??"
AB - "No"
I truely believe AB is a good dude but he got issues like a muhfukker
I will tell you this Broner is a cool guy. If you go out with him he picks up the check all the time. No kidding. He is very loved by Al and Floyd and Co but dude basically too stubborn. Even his pops can't talk him outta trouble sometimes. I wish there was a 24 7 for Broner so you guys could see the petty stuff he fights people on. Even his diet and schedule are an issue. It's just you can't tell where his focus is on at times.
When he's on point and focused and sober dude is like a completely different guy.