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[patscorpio]

I honestly think people are waiting to see some chinks in Golovkins armor before they start beating down the doors to face him. The rounds that a past it Ouma took from him weren't convincing enough. nikkas gotta see Gennady get dropped or get befuddled by movement or something in order to get people to pull the trigger on his fights. That's the thing about this era, nobody wants to be the 1st one to risk shyt. They gotta see someone else do a lil damage first.

Hell, I didn't think it was possible to hurt and drop Juan Urango until I saw Randall Baily do it on FNF. Even though Urango still won, I just knew other boxers were looking at that shyt like if I catch him with the perfect shot, I might be able to KO this nikka. Next fight comes up and Devon Alexander of all people does it.

man let me give you some rep for this outstanding example

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/420745-the-price-is-wrong-the-tale-of-nicholas-walters

Just like I thought. Even though Walters asked for a mil, he said $750,000 or $800,000 was still cool, but HBO was still on this take $550,000 shyt or

That fight was doomed from the start and never realistically possible since HBO was intent on undervaluing it. If HBO would have put aside 1.6 or 1.8 mil we would have prolly gotten this fight.
Instead they pay Ward and Golovkin like they fighting Godzilla.

 

[patscorpio]

I'm talking about main events N viewer appeal

I'm not talking about undercards... Undercards aren't bringing in the viewers (unless its Pedraza on Sauna Boys undercard)


Nobody was switching to Showtime for Martin vs Glaskov

Frampton Quigg was aired at live 4 in the afternoon...replay during a primetime event ain't bringing in viewers either

Showtime need to go back to the three fight cards they was running a few years back

Provodnikov Molina should be the co main on a fire card NOT the Main Event

choc i was with you until you decided to hate on the human highlight film..more ppl were talking about gary brutally sending dude to the bushes than pedraza-smith (although it was a good fight)..gary still got that green belt

showtime is making a comeback but we need that knockout kings 2013 level of card matchmaking

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

man let me give you some rep for this outstanding example

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

See that's the thing though. Cats are trying to have shyt both ways when it comes to rating GGG. On one hand nikkas say he's garbage because he hasn't fought anybody and that he's overrated etc.....but on the other hand, nikkas is only confident in picking Ward to beat him. A guy that's already moved on (literally and figuratively)

If GGG was so easy to beat, Floyd would be hyping Jack up to take that 0 away. Hell, I think Jack has the skillset and size to give GGG a tough fight. If Golovkin's not as good as advertised, then couldn't a guy like Jack expose him?

I honestly think people are waiting to see some chinks in Golovkins armor before they start beating down the doors to face him. The rounds that a past it Ouma took from him weren't convincing enough. nikkas gotta see Gennady get dropped or get befuddled by movement or something in order to get people to pull the trigger on his fights. That's the thing about this era, nobody wants to be the 1st one to risk shyt. They gotta see someone else do a lil damage first.

Hell, I didn't think it was possible to hurt and drop Juan Urango until I saw Randall Baily do it on FNF. Even though Urango still won, I just knew other boxers were looking at that shyt like if I catch him with the perfect shot, I might be able to KO this nikka. Next fight comes up and Devon Alexander of all people does it.

It's like in boxing, nobody thinks something can be done, until they see somebody almost do it.

If Lemieux would have been competitive with GGG or at least buzzed him a couple times, than I bet a guy like Saunders would have taken the fight instead of finding ways to pop shyt and avoid it.

I definitely think there is a wait and see mentality with GGG right now. A lot of guys don't want to be the first and when someone somewhat respectable like Lemiuex takes the shot he got dominated. I think their isn't a lot of confidence in guys who aren't top 10 PFP right now vs. GGG.

I have always said if Ward and GGG fought, I would favor Ward. Ward is naturally bigger, one of the most skilled boxers in the game, and when active is the #1 PFP fighter in boxing. It isn't a bad look for GGG when realistically only the number 1 PFP fighter is the only dude who a consensus who put him as underdog versus. Is it a bad look for Kovalev that people favor Ward over him. Nah, it still means you are a PFP top fighter. Just like when Pacquiao lost to Floyd. So we are going to think Pacquiao is garbage because Floyd dominated him? Pacquiao showed what that theory was about with another domination of Bradley. The game like you said is, it is one thing if the best fighter beats you, but you can't have the other guys making you look bad in the ring.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

power moves?

money moves... ?? NOT FIGHTING A FIGHTER SO AS NOT TO LOSE YOUR AURA is a money move...?? sounds like a bytch MOVE.. which is what he is referring too...

YOU honestly think that ggg v canelo isn't the biggest fight out there>>??? prob is as mikey alludes too.. GGG whoops that ass and now that aura is gone.. its one thing to come back FROM A DECSION LOSS to PBF ... its another thing to be KNOCKED THE fukk out... come back from that loss you prob aint gonna be doing PPV unless ur the B side...lol

and again.. mikey says DONT HOLD THE LINEAL BELT HOSTAGE.. WBC BELT... drop it like a good boy and go back to 154... don't have middle weight fights at 155 .. go be the best at 154...

in 25 days we all know canelo is gonna drop the belt.. so as not to face ggg.... thing is HE CANT USE THE EXCUSE OF BIGGER AND BETTER FIGHTS OUT THERE WHEN WE ALL KNOW GGG IS SELLING OUT ARENAS AND is considred the best 160b ..

only bigger fight is may weather.. which if he comes back canelo would be a fool not to take that fight....

but what bigger fight is there for canelo other than pbf or GGG.... lets be real here...

was it a bytch move when little g stated he would face ANYBODY from 154 to 168, including andre ward. then andre ward called him out and he ran away like a ho?.....andre ward was the BIGGEST fight possible to make for little g at that time and he refused to take it. flat out. so yea....golovkin don't deserve shyt and i'm not about to feel sorry for this clown getting a taste of his own medicine.


let me ask you this?....


who's taken more risks in their career?....canelo or golovkin?

who's faced the better competition?....canelo or golovkin?



I don't give a shyt. when you refuse to take a single risk in your entire career you don't deserve to question anybody's heart. little g had plenty of opportunities to take a "nothing to gain, everything to lose" type fight and he declined every single time. canelo on the other hand has done that more than once. so fukk a little g. he can have the belt. he was handed all his other belts anyway. why not another

 

[krackdagawd]

power moves?

money moves... ?? NOT FIGHTING A FIGHTER SO AS NOT TO LOSE YOUR AURA is a money move...?? sounds like a bytch MOVE.. which is what he is referring too...

YOU honestly think that ggg v canelo isn't the biggest fight out there>>??? prob is as mikey alludes too.. GGG whoops that ass and now that aura is gone.. its one thing to come back FROM A DECSION LOSS to PBF ... its another thing to be KNOCKED THE fukk out... come back from that loss you prob aint gonna be doing PPV unless ur the B side...lol

and again.. mikey says DONT HOLD THE LINEAL BELT HOSTAGE.. WBC BELT... drop it like a good boy and go back to 154... don't have middle weight fights at 155 .. go be the best at 154...

in 25 days we all know canelo is gonna drop the belt.. so as not to face ggg.... thing is HE CANT USE THE EXCUSE OF BIGGER AND BETTER FIGHTS OUT THERE WHEN WE ALL KNOW GGG IS SELLING OUT ARENAS AND is considred the best 160b ..

only bigger fight is may weather.. which if he comes back canelo would be a fool not to take that fight....

but what bigger fight is there for canelo other than pbf or GGG.... lets be real here...

I've always rocked with Canelo but this post right here might have made me a stan for dude. You mad as fukk

if you 97g stans would have copped his ppv like ya for him online he wouldn't be in this position.

 

[Newzz]

#AboutBillions


:aboutbillions:

 

[patscorpio]

Julio Ceja vs Hugo Ruiz? (LSC vs Martinez card)
Carl Frampton vs Scott Quigg? (LSC vs Martinez card)
Charles Martin vs Czar Glazkov? (Wilder vs Szpilka card)


^^^ I thought those were all good fights on Showtime Boxing this year.



Then they have Erislandy Lara vs Vanes Martirosyan 2 and Jermall Charlo vs Austin Trout coming in 18 days.

frampton-quigg & martin-glazkov..good fights? ..no breh..frampton-quigg was ok at best....martin-glazkov though was ...was for a belt too ..charles martin former heavyweight champion of the world

ceja-ruiz 2 was too damn short to rate it


that tripleheader has a chance to be good and also a chance to be an eyesore...depending on what versions of these fighters show up..lara-vanes 2 already has the struggle stigma around it based on what happened (or didnt happen) in their first fight ..but we will see

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

I've always rocked with Canelo but this post right here might have made me a stan for dude. You mad as fukk

welcome aboard

 

[SuikodenII]

Last time I seen Stiverne in the ring, he was getting dropped by a bum and then coming back to win on the cards:

Him or the #CaseCatchers want nothing to do with The Bronze Bomber...cant blame nobody else but himself for not drinking enough water




#BombZquad

Derrick Rossy is low tier, but FAR from a bum

 

[SuikodenII]

Stiverne was dehydrated cause he was shook

Couldn't retain water cause the thot of Wilder made him piss himself

Wilder took his belt and his confidence

 

[patscorpio]

breh youre not reppin jhonny no more in your profile?

 

[Newzz]

Derrick Rossy is low tier, but FAR from a bum

He's 5-9 since 2011 breh...that's a bum to me.

"Low tier" = D level fighter to me and D level fighters are bums imo.

He may have been C level at one point, but in 2016...he's a can

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Derrick Rossy is low tier, but FAR from a bum

Yup, hell I thought he got robbed against Glazkov not too long ago.

He's more than capable as a fighter. Stiverne is like C+ himself though