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[Newzz]

okay I understand saying provo give dudes tough fights but just to say it would be way better than what Crawford has fought at140 or make him as a fighter at 140 is iffy.

I mean if we look at the facts provo doesn't have one win that's greater than what lundy,Thomas n jean has at 140.. all have lost when they step up to the big name.

provo could be a nice challenge but I don't believe it makes Crawford superstar level at 140 just cause he beats him because provo resume is not all that when it comes to big wins.

does history remember the guy who almost won or gave tough fights as an all time great? ummm no.

Crawford will look amazing against Prov, just as Bradley would've if he wasn't trying to prove a point, because Crawford is a really good boxer with high punching accuracy & power behind it. Prov has never stepped in the ring with someone who brings the traits Crawford would.


I think Crawford would stop him due to cuts.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Everyone that has beat him, beat him the same way. BOXING. That's all it takes to beat Provodnikov,

Yea, and they only beat him by 1 round and end up in the hospital

 

[mr. smoke weed]

nah prov beating mike alvarado is a better W than what lundy, dulorme, and jean have accomplished combined

hell prov beating a faded JLC is a better W than what those 3 have accomplished lol

And still Prov is a C level fighter (that's a big generous C level btw), who's best known for throwing 4 left hooks, 2 against a future HOF'er, and 2 against a gatekeeper like himself. Prov is just a sturdy dude, with a good chin who will keep coming forward. That is unless you use minimal lateral movement and circling on him. In which case he loses his shyt and loses to fighters he just gave a concussion to.

 

[Newzz]

@Newzz
As far as AB goes.. AB and Prov have both faced equally tough opposition, but the difference is AB gets his ass whipped and/or manhandled in his losses while Prov is putting dudes in the hospital win or lose.. and at 140, Prov has easily fought the better competition and if he were to fight Broner it aint gonna be nothing like the Molina fight.. Bronet would literally have to survive for 12 rounds because he has ZEROin his arsenal to hurt or slow this man down.. Prov is a dangerous fight for any fighter at 140/147

AB has only lost to Shawn Porter and Marcos Maidana....both who are bigger, stronger, and better overall than Ruslan Provodnikov. Those are the only times you've seen him lose, but being that Prov is not on their level, how does that mean anything they did have anything to do with what he would do?


Again, I couldn't imagine Porter or Maidana sitting in the ring with 2 guys who aren't punchers, both badly wounded for 11 of the 12 rounds (one with a closed eye, the other cant even think correctly), and not finish them


You don't have to "slow" Prov down....all you have to do is box and you win. That's it.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

That doesn't really sound like he's been 'calling him out all week', breh.

 

[Newzz]

Yea, and they only beat him by 1 round and end up in the hospital

The object of the game is to win breh.....win.


Prov doesn't get extra points because he loses by "1 round". He gets deducted points if anything because he's losing to guys who are at disadvantages for 11 of 12 rounds and he STILL cannot beat them.


How do you lose a fight where your opponent has no power to detour you and only 50% of his vision for 33 of the 36 minutes yall are in the ring?


How do you lose a fight where your opponent has no power to detour you, and doesn't even know where he is for 33 of the 36 minutes yall are in the ring?


How Sway?

 

[Axum Ezana]

nah prov beating mike alvarado is a better W than what lundy, dulorme, and jean have accomplished combined

hell prov beating a faded JLC is a better W than what those 3 have accomplished lol

Alvarado is okay(compared to lundy..etc) I guess. but he is a come forward guy slugger type? still provo has never beat a type of boxer high level like craw.

 

[Axum Ezana]

That doesn't really sound like he's been 'calling him out all week', breh.

naw but he has said that he wants to fight him on numerous occasions. that's considered a call out to me.

I guess to call out guys u have to diss them? well Crawford mostly stay lowkey(with everyone) other than getting hype at face/offs he pretty much respectful and keeps it moving.

 

[Newzz]

Chavez Sr. BLASTS Son On Facebook For Lack Of Discipline
Posted by Jeandra LeBeauf on Tuesday, March 1, 2016 · Leave a Comment

For Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. having privilege and access to best life has to offer did nothing to instill the work ethic that made his famous father a boxing legend.

In recent years, to say the ups and downs of the sometimes super middleweight have been well documented would be an understatement. By virtue of a famous name, Chavez Jr. has been allowed to skate through boxing garnering generous paydays for subpar performances. Adding fuel to the proverbial fire are the entitled, brat-like post-fight antics which include berating referees and posting big checks from Haymon Boxing on social media and suspensions for marijuana usage.

It’s not a Chavez Jr. fight promotion without a rousing game of “Guess Chavez Jr’s weight” or a myriad of trainers coming and going who believe they are the one to get him back in line.

In recent weeks, Chavez Jr. has been reportedly “focused” and adhering to a strict diet while sequestered in the Big Bear, CA to train for a yet to be finalized super middleweight title fight showdown against WBC champion Badou Jack. To get him ready, he’s enlisted the help of Robert Garcia and Ricky Fuñez to take turns at the helm to help him prepare. Not one, but two qualified trainers brought into camp to reign in Chavez Jr. but it appears whatever game plan they’ve concocted is still not getting through to him.

Now retired from the ring, whenever Chavez Sr. appears as an observer or broadcast commentator, still invokes the same excitement an awe in fans as he did in his fighting days. Watching along with the public at the self destruction of his son the loving parent wants to continue supporting his name sake but the champion is fed up. Late Monday night, Chavez Sr. took to social media to air out the dirty laundry surrounding his son’s current training and fight preparation. Frustrated at his son’s lack of focus, he poured his thoughts into the following Facebook message:

A sad day when your own parent, a legend, airs you out on social media. Whether or not the Jack fight happens remains to be seen.



Chavez Sr. BLASTS Son On Facebook For Lack Of Discipline | BadCulture.net | by Jeandra LeBeauf














@Jae good stuff

 

[yo moms]

The object of the game is to win breh.....win.


Prov doesn't get extra points because he loses by "1 round". He gets deducted points if anything because he's losing to guys who are at disadvantages for 11 of 12 rounds and he STILL cannot beat them.


How do you lose a fight where your opponent has no power to detour you and only 50% of his vision for 33 of the 36 minutes yall are in the ring?


How do you lose a fight where your opponent has no power to detour you, and doesn't even know where he is for 33 of the 36 minutes yall are in the ring?


How Sway?

who really won the fight

this isnt computer scoring. this is professional boxing where damage counts for more than punches landed. how could you possibly call it a win where you were near death and severely brain damaged and algeria was blinded.

i get that prov is a wasteman who should have finished those fights but he beat the fukk out of them dudes.

 

[yo moms]

why would chavez sr expect the same attitutude and work ethic from his son who was raised rich? he could never have lived up to his fathers expectations anyway. let that boy smoke weed and train in his living room in peace.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

If he said that on Facebook, imagine what he told him in person

 

[mr. smoke weed]

who really won the fight

this isnt computer scoring. this is professional boxing where damage counts for more than punches landed. how could you possibly call it a win where you were near death and severely brain damaged and algeria was blinded.

i get that prov is a wasteman who should have finished those fights but he beat the fukk out of them dudes.

Y'all need to re-watch fights. And you need to change your philosophy on scoring if you think damage counts more than clean punches landed.

 

[Newzz]

who really won the fight

The guys who's hand was raised?

this isnt computer scoring. this is professional boxing where damage counts for more than punches landed.

Untrue.

how could you possibly call it a win where you were near death and severely brain damaged and algeria was blinded.

Because they continued to win rounds (after the 1st, Algieri won 8 of the last 11 rounds on 2 of the 3 judges cards & Bradley won 7 of the next 11 on 2 of the 3 judges cards and 8 of the next 11 on the 3rd judges card) even while being badly hurt. Against a true monster, they wouldn't have made it to the final bell.

i get that prov is a wasteman who should have finished those fights but he beat the fukk out of them dudes.

So even you know he's not that good and should've finished the fights



The question isn't if he instilled damage or not, because we know he did visibly and Bradley told us he was messed up himself......my thing is that even though they were badly hurt, they STILL beat him. No one is going 12 rounds with Matthysse if they can only see 50% visibility with no power or cant even think straight for 33 out of 36 minutes. Matthysse would've KOd them.



Prov? You can still beat him while being badly hurt for over 90% of the fight

 

[L68]

Rumor is Crawford vs JMM