Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[patscorpio]

If that training camp shyt is true, this should be nothing but easy work for Jack..like I said before haymon took a L signing him

 

[mr. smoke weed]

I don't know how many times the odds are heavily in Provodnikov favor (2 fighters with not the most power, one with 1 eye...the other concussed, beating him by fighting 11 out 12 rounds at a disadvantage, aND then a 3rd fighter who's weakness is pure Boxing goes on to outbox him) and he still loses.....but people act as if he's a force to be reckoned with

Provodonikov gets the same Boxing clinic from AB that Molina got.

What I don't get is how anyone give's him a chance after the Bradley fight. Concusses breh in the first 2 rounds, goes on to lose every round after (not on points, but he was losing the 12th before the KD), and lose the fight. To a dude who doesn't remember the fight, and was giving concussion interviews after the fight.

 

[Newzz]

Prov is a greater threat than anyone that Crawford and Broner has fought at 140 and please lets not pretend he aint..

At 140?


Broner has faced better, stronger, more powerful opposition than Prov period....and did it up at Welterweight

Lets also not pretend that everyone that has beaten Prov (by a round or split decision) wouldn't give Broner and Crawford a tough fight because I still think the caged warrior master boxer would give biscuit that work and Ive said this since he beat Prov.

Broner beats all of em....he beats a seriously concussed Timothy Bradley, a 1 eyed Chris Algieri, Herrera, and he outboxes Matthysse


Broner vs a 1 eyed Chris Algieri? You REALLY think a blinded Chris Algieri would beat Adrien Broner?


THAT'S who beat Provodnikov. A dude with pillows and only 1 eye beat this "monster"....like seriously breh

Dont even act like Crawford is proven at 140 yet and Broner only notable win past 135 aint Hoeletta Malignaggi

I'll let hyperman25 respond to your Crawford jabs, but not let's sit here and act like beating Paulie Malignaggi aint a bigger win than Provodnikov ever got

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Let's not go down the AB vs BATB route. But yea if by some magical way AB had BATB concussed he'd have beat him.

 

[Newzz]

breh, why you talking about broner and crawford like they're on the same level ......crawford is elite, broner is B- level. broner would essentially be a stepping stone fight for crawford right now.

Aint you one of those dudes who thought Matthysse was the Future Kingpin of 140?

How dare you talk about where people rank, when you ranked Matthysse as better than everyone there.....even while you seen him struggle and continuously lose at 140 over and over again

crawford would mollywhop prov, but I could see broner being too shook and simply getting outworked.

Like he did against Molina, who ironically, you said the same things about Broner being shook of Molina's power?

he was too scared to throw vs shawn porter and he aint even a big puncher.

Shawn Porter is a much much better fighter than Provodnikov....he provides strength, speed, quickness, and power. Provodnikov is 2 levels below Shawn Porter.

if prov can manage to land a solid punch early, broner could start running for the hills and give away the fight.

If's huh?


"IF" Prov doesn't manage to land a solid punch early, then what


He gets outboxed to a wide UD and yall left sobbing into the keyboards, like against Molina, talking bout "bu-bu-but Broner didn't stand and trade with him"

does broner have more talent than prov?....sure. but as we've seen from broner fights, that don't mean shyt.

Has Provodnikov managed to transform into Marcos Maidana or Shawn Porter?


Are you putting him up there?


I could not imagine Maidana or Porter not finishing a seriously concussed Bradley or a 1 eyed Algieri....both who brought no detouring fire power to the table, but yet STILL beat him while at a disadvantage for 11 of 12 rounds. That speaks volumes to the level of boxer you're putting your faith in. He's so dangerous, that he cant finish badly wounded opponents, but instead STILL loses?

he just doesn't have that "IT" factor that makes a fighter great. dude is seriously lacking something mentally. when you don't have that mental strength, you can lose to anybody...especially a guy like prov who's willing to die in the ring. adrien broner is zab judah with half the talent.

Ruslan Provodnikov is Ricardo Mayorga with half the talent and no swag.



Broner faces Provodnikov, I want you and everyone else to stand by your prefight statements....don't go back trying to smooth it over once Provodnikov loses again

 

[Newzz]

@Big Boss you know what to say breh

 

[Jello Biafra]

Floyd with that horse jockey realness.

 

[Newzz]

Let's not go down the AB vs BATB route. But yea if by some magical way AB had BATB concussed he'd have beat him.

That's all Im saying...and not just for AB. Any fighter, that's a true monster that they are trying to portray Prov as, would've finished Algieri or Bradley because they were messed up bad. Instead, Algieri went on to win 8 of the next 11 rounds on 2 judges cards with 1 eye closed and no power


Provodnikov has lost 3x to guys who are not referred to as having power (Herrera, Bradley, and Algieri) with 2 of the 3 being badly hurt for 11 of the 12 rounds, but Im supposed to believe that Broner "cant hurt him" so that's why he will lose.....as if power is what's needed to beat Prov


Prov cant deal with a MOVER and that's why he loses everytime to someone, even Matthysse, when they just stick to pure boxing.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Aint you one of those dudes who thought Matthysse was the Future Kingpin of 140?

How dare you talk about where people rank, when you ranked Matthysse as better than everyone there.....even while you seen him struggle and continuously lose at 140 over and over again




Like he did against Molina, who ironically, you said the same things about Broner being shook of Molina's power?




Shawn Porter is a much much better fighter than Provodnikov....he provides strength, speed, quickness, and power. Provodnikov is 2 levels below Shawn Porter.




If's huh?


"IF" Prov doesn't manage to land a solid punch early, then what


He gets outboxed to a wide UD and yall left sobbing into the keyboards, like against Molina, talking bout "bu-bu-but Broner didn't stand and trade with him"






Has Provodnikov managed to transform into Marcos Maidana or Shawn Porter?


Are you putting him up there?


I could not imagine Maidana or Porter not finishing a seriously concussed Bradley or a 1 eyed Algieri....both who brought no detouring fire power to the table, but yet STILL beat him while at a disadvantage for 11 of 12 rounds. That speaks volumes to the level of boxer you're putting your faith in. He's so dangerous, that he cant finish badly wounded opponents, but instead STILL loses?








Ruslan Provodnikov is Ricardo Mayorga with half the talent and no swag.



Broner faces Provodnikov, I want you and everyone else to stand by your prefight statements....don't go back trying to smooth it over once Provodnikov loses again

I think it is time to for everyone to face facts and just put Provodnikov into gatekeeper status.
He is a dude that is going to give whoever he fights a tough time just because of his aggressiveness but I am not going to pick him to beat any elite fighters.
He's one dimensional and doesn't have an answer when he is being outboxed. But he is a nice test for dudes who have question marks about them and he is a good opponent for a name guy to have a win over.

 

[Newzz]

Floyd with that horse jockey realness.

Dude looked like he was wearing women's boots.....but I know it's Floyd, so it must be some high fashion men boots my tax bracket doesn't have me hip to yet

 

[L68]

chavez jr is a disgrace..

good thing chavez sr has canelo to carry the torch now as his adopted son

 

[Newzz]

I think it is time to for everyone to face facts and just put Provodnikov into gatekeeper status.
He is a dude that is going to give whoever he fights a tough time just because of his aggressiveness but I am not going to pick him to beat any elite fighters.
He's one dimensional and doesn't have an answer when he is being outboxed. But he is a nice test for dudes who have question marks about them and he is a good opponent for a name guy to have a win over.

I agree 100% with this.


We seen Matthysse outbox him....and Matthysse isn't known for being that good of a boxer himself. I mean, that there is the of all scenarios

Everyone that has beat him, beat him the same way. BOXING. That's all it takes to beat Provodnikov, because he doesn't believe in defense, is too slow, and doesn't move his head or cut off the ring. Hell, didn't he say this himself in the post fight interview against Algieri? That he wont fight anyone that "runs" anymore, because he cant beat them

 

[Axum Ezana]

okay I understand saying provo give dudes tough fights but just to say it would be way better than what Crawford has fought at140 or make him as a fighter at 140 is iffy.

I mean if we look at the facts provo doesn't have one win that's greater than what lundy,Thomas n jean has at 140.. all have lost when they step up to the big name.

provo could be a nice challenge but I don't believe it makes Crawford superstar level at 140 just cause he beats him because provo resume is not all that when it comes to big wins.

does history remember the guy who almost won or gave tough fights as an all time great? ummm no.

 

[Black_Jesus]

@Newzz

Nah I stan Crawford, but he is not yet proven at 140 in my eyes until he beats either Broner/Postol/Hererra/Lucas/Prov ..... YET.. not saying he would lose, but Provodnikov would be his toughest opponent so far since leaving 135..

As far as AB goes.. AB and Prov have both faced equally tough opposition, but the difference is AB gets his ass whipped and/or manhandled in his losses while Prov is putting dudes in the hospital win or lose.. and at 140, Prov has easily fought the better competition and if he were to fight Broner it aint gonna be nothing like the Molina fight.. Bronet would literally have to survive for 12 rounds because he has ZEROin his arsenal to hurt or slow this man down.. Prov is a dangerous fight for any fighter at 140/147

 

[patscorpio]

I mean if we look at the facts provo doesn't have one win that's greater than what lundy,Thomas n jean has at 140.. all have lost when they step up to the big name.

nah prov beating mike alvarado is a better W than what lundy, dulorme, and jean have accomplished combined

hell prov beating a faded JLC is a better W than what those 3 have accomplished lol