Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

It was PBC's first year

If you think Thurman/Garcia is worth building, we just have a different point of view on these fighters & will agreed to disagree. If PBC wants to do the fight, you just make the fight & thats the end of it.

Danny is a guy that I actually forget is undefeated. If you are a Danny Garcia fan, you should be nervous every time he fights.

I think a lot of these guys are good fighters (Garcia, Thurman, Porter, etc), but these guys taking a loss while waiting for a big fight is a very real thing that can happen. These aren't guys like Ward, Kovalev, that are so far ahead of the peers that they just aren't gonna lose.

Swift N Thurman are the 2 biggest draws in PBC how is that not a fight worth building if they both in the same division, both undefeated N both Champs

Whats the point of throwing all these nikkas against each other with no build?? PBC does it all the time N it's counter productive

We just seen AB vs Porter with no build N no plan... That shyt accomplished ZERO...matter fact it hurt more then anything...ABs draw got diminished N Porter hasn't fought yet... All for shytty ticket sales N TV ratings that were below Thurman vs Ghost, Swift vs PED, Swift vs Ghost

Put Swift vs Thurman ASAP with no build = less money, less exposure, less TV ratings

You build the two biggest draws = more money more exposure more ratings

PBC as a whole benefits off the bigger fight with bigger ratings... The winners next fight would also do huge numbers

 

[theflyest]

Swift N Thurman are the 2 biggest draws in PBC how is that not a fight worth building if they both in the same division, both undefeated N both Champs

Whats the point of throwing all these nikkas against each other with no build?? PBC does it all the time N it's counter productive

We just seen AB vs Porter with no build N no plan... That shyt accomplished ZERO...matter fact it hurt more then anything...ABs draw got diminished N Porter hasn't fought yet... All for shytty ticket sales N TV ratings that were below Thurman vs Ghost, Swift vs PED, Swift vs Ghost

Put Swift vs Thurman ASAP with no build = less money, less exposure, less TV ratings

You build the two biggest draws = more money more exposure more ratings

PBC as a whole benefits off the bigger fight with bigger ratings... The winners next fight would also do huge numbers

I really don't think you understand my point of view.

Putting time into building a fight makes sense if both guys are damn near unbeatable. Either of these guys could lose during the build up process.

If I really believe both of these guys where that far ahead of the competition, then sure. I could really see some random nygga ranked #9 catching these nyggas on a bad day. It's as simple as that.

You have been watching boxing for years right? How many fights have seen being built up that did not happen because the other fighter loss prior?

Part of the business is being able to realistically break down the two fighters. Neither Thurman or Garcia are guys I would trust not to fukk it up. Now I will admit if matched carefully, the odds of them losing prior to the match are slim, but its still too risky.

 

[Stinky Diver]

McDonald's ends its 2 for $2. Maidana comes back to boxing...

Nah, no coincidence at all.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

I really don't think you understand my point of view.

Putting time into building a fight makes sense if both guys are damn near unbeatable. Either of these guys could lose during the build up process.

If I really believe both of these guys where that far ahead of the competition, then sure. I could really see some random nygga ranked #9 catching these nyggas on a bad day. It's as simple as that.

You have been watching boxing for years right? How many fights have seen being built up that did not happen because the other fighter loss prior?

Part of the business is being able to realistically break down the two fighters. Neither Thurman or Garcia are guys I would trust not to fukk it up. Now I will admit if matched carefully, the odds of them losing prior to the match are slim, but its still too risky.

We've just seen Kid Choc N Danny Jacobs get built up

We in the process of Wilder vs Povetkin being built

Swift vs Matthysse was built up

Walter vs Lomachenko built up

All fighters on the same level as Swift N One Time

Keith or Danny lose In the process......They don't N you got a mega fight on your hands ...it more then worth the risk

 

[theflyest]

We've just seen Kid Choc N Danny Jacobs get built up

We in the process of Wilder vs Povetkin being built

Swift vs Matthysse was built up

Walter vs Lomachenko built up

All fighters on the same level as Swift N One Time

Keith or Danny lose In the process......They don't N you got a mega fight on your hands ...it more then worth the risk

Garcia-Matthysse was not some fight that was a year in the making. Please define what you mean by being built up. It was just a good fight at the time that could have had its own card, but they decided to put it on the Mayweather undercard. Lucas was viewed as the favorite & as a guy to be a potential Mayweather opponent.

A build up can take 1-2 years where you have two guys on a collision course.

I'm not really interested in debating with you anymore.

Next your gonna tell me Garcia-Khan was built up

I guess Vitaly-Lewis was built up too.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Garcia-Matthysse was not some fight that was a year in the making. Please define what you mean by being built up. It was just a good fight at the time that could have had its own card, but they decided to put it on the Mayweather undercard. Lucas was viewed as the favorite & as a guy to be a potential Mayweather opponent.

A build up can take 1-2 years where you have two guys on a collision course.

I'm not really interested in debating with you anymore.

Next year gonna tell me Garcia-Khan was built up

Nah you obviously don't know wtf you talking about

 

[theflyest]

Nah you obviously don't know wtf you talking about

Your gonna tell me they built that up for a year? You can't be serious. Who was screaming for Garcia-Lucas in late 2012?

Garcia beat Khan
Lucas beat Olusegun

What build up are you talking about?

After Garcia beat Judah & Lucas beat Peterson, they went ahead & made the fight. I suppose their was hype generated because the fight was made, but this was not some collision course that was years or even a year in the making.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Your gonna tell me they built that up for a year? You can't be serious. Who was screaming for Garcia-Lucas in late 2012?

Garcia beat Khan
Lucas beat Olusegun

What build up are you talking about?

After Garcia beat Judah & Lucas beat Peterson, they went ahead & made the fight. I suppose their was hype generated because the fight was made, but this was not some collision course that was years or even a year in the making.

Matthysse washed Soto in June 2012
Swift stopped Khan right after

Guess what fight was asked for??

Then Matthysse became Mando when he beat Ajose in Sept 2012

Before Matthysse killed Mike Dallas Jr it had already started that Swift was ducking N scary

Swift fought Zab
Matthysse blasted out PED

They finally fought in Sept 2013

That's at the very least an entire year of letting the fight cook, in that year they both got more popular, both had good fights to raise their stock N demand of the fight N at the end of the day both made way more money N the fight meant more to errybody involved

If that's not building up a fight wtf is

 

[The Old Master]

What happened to Verdejo being better than my nikka Rances Barthelemy?

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Old Master Back



Compare 30 yr old boxers to 22yr old Prospects

 

[Sugar]

.

 

[The Old Master]

Old Master Back



Compare 30 yr old boxers to 22yr old Prospects

20 pro fights compared to 24. How many more fights does he need then? Floyd was a champion at 21 in his 18th fight. I said Barthelemy was the best at 135, nikkas responded with Verdejo as a rebuttal. Make all the excuses you want though.

Cubano Boxeo>>>>>>>



With that said, I still think Verdejo is a great prospect though.

 

[Mortal1]

Omaha reppin in this bytch

GREAT fight Crawford

This dude is gonna be fukking big one day

I wonder who he'll fight next ?

 

[TheLukieBaby]

new videos

 

[The axe murderer]

Leo Santa Cruz has some of the best fights. 5 star material. His fight with abner mares now this.kiko fight Leo Santa Cruz vs Kiko Martinez - full fight Video 2016 WBA