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How the hell did I miss this. It's sad, because this is the same way I view the game & it shouldn't even be that way. I have accepted that boxing is a political sport though. Watching the way these guys move outside the ring is just as important as what they did in the ring.


It sounds fukked up, but I think Angel met 'let the fight cook, get your money while its simmering'
 

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My nikka Ch:mjlol:ves must go through an emotional roller coaster on a daily basis. How many big fights has he been rumored to be in discussions for only to get tossed in the bushes a few days later. :to:
But he had a draw with BATB :gladbron:..............in 2014
I need to re-watch Ch:mjlol:ves vs Ri:francis:os
 

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As far as the Wilder/Povetkin fight being held in Russia:mjpls:








So, it still might be at Barclays.....AND Wilder just got rich quick:whew:



Haymon won if this goes down on US soil:wow:

I would assume a shyt ton of concessions would have to made by HAymon/PBC to get the fight to not be in Russia. There is honestly no reason why Ryabinsky would be willing to do it otherwise.
 

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It sounds fukked up, but I think Angel met 'let the fight cook, get your money while its simmering'

He said that. Maybe he did not articulate himself the best, but he said if these guys are gonna fight, they might as well wait & make more money. However, the general point of the interview is that they really could just make money just by analyzing opportunities that bring the most money with the least risk. They don't need each other to make money.

Everything he said makes business sense. This is prize fighting. You try to make as much money as possible. If your looked at as p4p, the goat, etc by the general public it's a bonus.

In this era, unless your a certain caliber of fighter, building up fights is pointless imo. Ward & Kovalev can do it, because they are that good. Even if they came in on a bad night (perhaps they had a shytty training camp, just not feelin it that day, etc) they can still pull out the win. A lot of these others guy can't do that.

As a promoter, I am not gonna build a Thurman/Porter, because either guy could lose. Some random nygga ranked #7 from the wbc could come out of nowhere & ruin it overnight. Yeah both of these guys are good, but imagine if they come in on a bad night & they fight the best version of some random nygga that had an amazing training camp. Shyt could go really bad.

Knowing that, you have situations where it makes the most sense to just do the fight instead of waiting around for it.

I'm still salty at Bob for not doing Juan Manuel Lopez/Gamboa when it was hot.
 
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He said that. Maybe he did not articulate himself the best, but he said if these guys are gonna fight, they might as well wait & make more money. However, the general point of the interview is that they really could just make money just by analyzing opportunities that bring the most money with the least risk. They don't need each other to make money.

Everything he said makes business sense. This is prize fighting. You try to make as much money as possible. If your looked at as p4p, the goat, etc by the general public it's a bonus.

In this era, unless your a certain caliber of fighter, building up fights is pointless imo. Ward & Kovalev can do it, because they are that good. Even if they came in on a bad night (perhaps they had a shytty training camp, just not feelin it that day, etc) they can still pull out the win. A lot of these others guy can't do that.

As a promoter, I am not gonna build a Thurman/Porter, because either guy could lose. Some random nygga ranked #7 from the wbc could come out of nowhere & ruin it overnight.

Knowing that, you have situations where it makes the most sense to just do the fight instead of waiting around for it.

I'm still salty at Bob for not doing Juan Manuel Lopez/Gamboa when it was hot.


Angel clarified himself more N said what he meant was Thurman vs Porter needed time to build...its a fight that should be much bigger then it is...instead it was scheduled at the Mohegan sun :scust:N has lost most of its hype BEFORE the accident.


Angel was 100% right...he mentioned the one name that gets nikkas in their feelings N that's all anybody heard...

But instead of an entire year of inactivity, both One Time N Porter could've had more fights to stay busy look good N build their names with casuals, all the while build the narrative Porter N Thurman are on a collision course...Have each fighter do commentary on each others fights, etc etc

PBC had their first storyline right there in their hands N they dropped the fukking ball

A fight that shouldve done damn near 5 Milly in views will be lucky to beat AB vs Porter now :mjcry:
 

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Angel clarified himself more N said what he meant was Thurman vs Porter needed time to build...its a fight that should be much bigger then it is...instead it was scheduled at the Mohegan sun :scust:N has lost most of its hype BEFORE the accident.


Angel was 100% right...he mentioned the one name that gets nikkas in their feelings N that's all anybody heard...

But instead of an entire year of inactivity, both One Time N Porter could've had more fights to stay busy look good N build their names with casuals, all the while build the narrative Porter N Thurman are on a collision course...Have each fighter do commentary on each others fights, etc etc

PBC had their first storyline right there in their hands N they dropped the fukking ball

A fight that shouldve done damn near 5 Milly in views will be lucky to beat AB vs Porter now :mjcry:

My response to that is it's too risky to build. I would agree if these guys where some unbeatable forces, but that is not the case.

I look at it on a case by case basis if a fight is really worth investing the time & effort to build it up.

Ward-Kovalev - Worth building
Thurman-Porter - Not worth it
 

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My response to that is it's too risky to build. I would agree if these guys where some unbeatable forces, but that is not the case.

I look at it on a case by case basis if a fight is really worth investing the time & effort to build it up.

Ward-Kovalev - Worth building
Thurman-Porter - Not worth it

True... But if PBC was better One Time vs Porter could be worth building.... Porter beat AB if he would've been able to build off that momentum instead of not one damn fight since :yeshrug:


Swift vs Thurman is the Mega fight to build at 147...only Problem is Swift already has the resume, is new to the division N has the WBC tourney

Thurman doesn't have the resume N people are getting anxious for him to fight tougher comp... Porter is that...so he's forced to fight Porter in the meantime
 

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True... But if PBC was better One Time vs Porter could be worth building.... Porter beat AB if he would've been able to build off that momentum instead of not one damn fight since :yeshrug:


Swift vs Thurman is the Mega fight to build at 147...only Problem is Swift already has the resume, is new to the division N has the WBC tourney

Thurman doesn't have the resume N people are getting anxious for him to fight tougher comp... Porter is that...so he's forced to fight Porter in the meantime

It was PBC's first year

If you think Thurman/Garcia is worth building, we just have a different point of view on these fighters & will agreed to disagree. If PBC wants to do the fight, you just make the fight & thats the end of it.

Danny is a guy that I actually forget is undefeated. If you are a Danny Garcia fan, you should be nervous every time he fights.

I think a lot of these guys are good fighters (Garcia, Thurman, Porter, etc), but these guys taking a loss while waiting for a big fight is a very real thing that can happen. These aren't guys like Ward, Kovalev, that are so far ahead of the peers that they just aren't gonna lose.
 
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