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The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
God damn Holyfield gave rahman that nasty ass swelling 
God damn Holyfield gave rahman that nasty ass swelling
headbutting aside...holyfield gave rahman a beating in that fight
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really deserves its own thread but...
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The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
fighters were truly tough back then..fighting 50 rounds and shyt with the equivalent of prolly 4 oz gloves on their hands
FLOYD MAYWEATHER ANALYZES CANELO VS. KHAN; SAYS CANELO LOOKS "A LOT" BETTER AND AMIR KHAN WALKS AROUND HEAVY
By Ben Thompson | February 16, 2016
BT: Floyd, what were your initial thoughts when you first heard that Amir Khan was going to fight Canelo Alvarez at 155 pounds?
FM: I always believe in speaking from the heart and speaking the truth. It's no different from the Amir Khan fight. The question that keeps being asked is who made the fight happen? Who do you think made the fight happen? On this tour, people are constantly asking, "Who made this fight happen?" My honest opinion, I just don't think that was an Al Haymon move. That's just what I honestly feel in my heart. I think that was someone from Amir Khan's camp; could be his father.
BT: Are you implying that Khan might be biting off more than he can chew by jumping in weight like that?
FM: Well, we gotta look at how Shane Mosley was at 135, jumped over 140, and went right to 147. You know, I just feel like this, high risk, big reward. It's obvious he walks around kind of heavy, you know, kind of big. It's obvious he put a lot of weight. Actually, hold on, let me ask my videographer a question. Hey, JD, Amir Khan walk around kind of heavy?
JD: [Heard in background] He walks around maybe 165. I've been around him in other camps and [inaudible]. About 170. [Note: Mayweather's videographer, James Dayap, was in camp with Amir Khan for several fights when Alex Ariza was still working as his strength & conditioning coach.]
FM: Oh, he walk around heavy. He walk around like 165, so I'm just saying, what you have to realize is this, you know, with going into that fight, anything can happen. You can never overlook anyone, but, I must say, judging from how Canelo has been looking, you know, and I know Amir Khan has been on a winning streak, so we can't really say. I was about to say something, but you can't really say how a fight is going to play out because styles make fights. But Canelo, I mean, he's looking better. He's looking a lot better.
BT: In your last fight, you faced Andre Berto, who is also trained by Virgil Hunter. Do you think Virgil can maybe be the x-factor in this fight?
FM: I think that Virgil Hunter, as far as communicating with fighters, I think he's one of the best guys in boxing as far as communication with guys right in their corner. He's very, very smooth and mellow. I think he gave Berto great advice; go out there and put it all on the line. If he did get a little mad or a little pushy, he's supposed to, but most of the time, he's going to keep his composure. We just have to see.
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By Ben Thompson | February 16, 2016
BT: Floyd, what were your initial thoughts when you first heard that Amir Khan was going to fight Canelo Alvarez at 155 pounds?
FM: I always believe in speaking from the heart and speaking the truth. It's no different from the Amir Khan fight. The question that keeps being asked is who made the fight happen? Who do you think made the fight happen? On this tour, people are constantly asking, "Who made this fight happen?" My honest opinion, I just don't think that was an Al Haymon move. That's just what I honestly feel in my heart. I think that was someone from Amir Khan's camp; could be his father.
BT: Are you implying that Khan might be biting off more than he can chew by jumping in weight like that?
FM: Well, we gotta look at how Shane Mosley was at 135, jumped over 140, and went right to 147. You know, I just feel like this, high risk, big reward. It's obvious he walks around kind of heavy, you know, kind of big. It's obvious he put a lot of weight. Actually, hold on, let me ask my videographer a question. Hey, JD, Amir Khan walk around kind of heavy?
JD: [Heard in background] He walks around maybe 165. I've been around him in other camps and [inaudible]. About 170. [Note: Mayweather's videographer, James Dayap, was in camp with Amir Khan for several fights when Alex Ariza was still working as his strength & conditioning coach.]
FM: Oh, he walk around heavy. He walk around like 165, so I'm just saying, what you have to realize is this, you know, with going into that fight, anything can happen. You can never overlook anyone, but, I must say, judging from how Canelo has been looking, you know, and I know Amir Khan has been on a winning streak, so we can't really say. I was about to say something, but you can't really say how a fight is going to play out because styles make fights. But Canelo, I mean, he's looking better. He's looking a lot better.
BT: In your last fight, you faced Andre Berto, who is also trained by Virgil Hunter. Do you think Virgil can maybe be the x-factor in this fight?
FM: I think that Virgil Hunter, as far as communicating with fighters, I think he's one of the best guys in boxing as far as communication with guys right in their corner. He's very, very smooth and mellow. I think he gave Berto great advice; go out there and put it all on the line. If he did get a little mad or a little pushy, he's supposed to, but most of the time, he's going to keep his composure. We just have to see.
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Maybe he'll pack the extra LBs into his chin
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The axe murderer
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My breh David Tua went IN
Not to mention it wasn't uncommon to average 15-30 fights a year in those days...and in most of those fights it was top tier opposition facing off against eachother....but for the "sports science & medicine" advanced boxers of today...a tough, 'grueling' schedule in modern times would be... 4 fights in a year, one with an elite champ/contender, one with a lower level contender and two against fringe contenders/journeymen all at 12 rds max
Jeanette went 49 rds with McVea...then fought two weeks after that (KO1) and fought 3 weeks after that fight in a 20 rd fight...and by the end of the year he fought McVea again in a 30 rd fight
That's like 10 years of modern pro fight experience squeezed into one year.
Floyd's body 'breaking down' after 49 fights using 8/10 oz. gloves in bouts that max out at 12 rds...with countless vacations in between
You can see why so many historians have a hard time rating modern 'greats' up there with guys like Langford, Greb, Gans etc. when you take into account that modern boxers just aren't as physically capable as alot of boxers in the past...there shoud be no dispute that human beings were physically tougher and more durable in those times....because of daily, strenuous activity which was the norm for an avg male in those times...just to get simple everyday activities completed....from youth to adulthood...where today, even our elite athletes are accustomed to spending hrs hunched over infront of video games, TV's, cell-phones & smart devices...and aren't raised in the same type of enviroments that are conducive to molding physical & mental toughness...on the same level as shown in that video...
outstanding postNot to mention it wasn't uncommon to average 15-30 fights a year in those days...and in most of those fights it was top tier opposition facing off against eachother....but for the "sports science & medicine" advanced boxers of today...a tough, 'grueling' schedule in modern times would be... 4 fights in a year, one with an elite champ/contender, one with a lower level contender and two against fringe contenders/journeymen all at 12 rds max
Jeanette went 49 rds with McVea...then fought two weeks after that (KO1) and fought 3 weeks after that fight in a 20 rd fight...and by the end of the year he fought McVea again in a 30 rd fight
That's like 10 years of modern pro fight experience squeezed into one year.
Floyd's body 'breaking down' after 49 fights using 8/10 oz. gloves in bouts that max out at 12 rds...with countless vacations in between
You can see why so many historians have a hard time rating modern 'greats' up there with guys like Langford, Greb, Gans etc. when you take into account that modern boxers just aren't as physically capable as alot of boxers in the past...there shoud be no dispute that human beings were physically tougher and more durable in those times....because of daily, strenuous activity which was the norm for an avg male in those times...just to get simple everyday activities completed....from youth to adulthood...where today, even our elite athletes are accustomed to spending hrs hunched over infront of video games, TV's, cell-phones & smart devices...and aren't raised in the same type of enviroments that are conducive to molding physical & mental toughness...on the same level as shown in that video...
shyt fighters like langford and greb were fighting with serious eye issues and still winning fights over the top contenders..sometimes in divisions well above their own....it was nothing to them... shyt was too real back in those days..because they had to stay hungry...if they wanted to eat, they had to fight