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can someone explain how lennox lewis is greater than jimmy wilde? going off fat dans comment that lennox lewis is the greatest fighter to come out of the uk.
 

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how was lennox lewis greater than bob fitzsimmons? he was from england too.
 

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Prolly the fact that wilde and fitzsimmons fought in the early 1900s breh lol

whats that got to do with anything? fighters are ranked on what they did in their day against their competition. fitzsimmons was the first 3 weight world champion at a time when there was 8 divisions and only 1 recognised champion in each division. thats a massive achievment.

if it was easy everyone would hsve been doing it back then. but only very few were 3 weight world champions in the 8 weigt class/1 champion era. so you cant sit here and say it was easier because it was the 1900s. thats bullshyt.
 

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So basically no fights of note worth caring about until the 27th?

Actually going to check out the Feb 19th Showtime card. Seeing two young brothers fight each other caught my eye:

  • O'Shaquie Foster vs Lavisas Williams, super featherweights, 8 rounds
Hopefully there is a way I can watch it because i'm sure they're not going to show it on TV
 

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So basically no fights of note worth caring about until the 27th?

Actually going to check out the Feb 19th Showtime card. Seeing two young brothers fight each other caught my eye:

  • O'Shaquie Foster vs Lavisas Williams, super featherweights, 8 rounds
Hopefully there is a way I can watch it because i'm sure they're not going to show it on TV

yeah its pretty quiet on the boxing tip for a couple weeks..which means i rewatch old fights lol
 

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Broner-Theophane Tops Season Two Premiere of PBC on Spike TV
Updated at 08:38 AM EST, Sat Feb 6, 2016 Read More By :

By Jake Donovan

The second season of Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) on Spike TV has a lot to live up to, considering the number of Fight of the Year contenders produced from the nine-episode season one debut. The network puts its best foot forward in not fooling around despite the April 1 launch date for the 2016 season premiere.

BoxingScene.com has learned that Adrien Broner will headline the April 1 card. A beltholder in four weight divisions, the brash boxer will defend his recently acquired 140 lb. title versus Theophane in a scheduled 12-round bout that has been discussed for months but remained in search of a televised home. An actual home is still being finalized, with locations in Washington D.C. – where Broner regularly trains when not at home in Cincinnati, Ohio - and Southern Florida currently in the mix.

Also on the card is an intriguing non-title (for the moment) crossroads bout between former super featherweight champion Algenis Mendez and rising unbeaten lightweight prospect Robert Easter Jr.

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Spike TV was by far the strongest of any of the networks involved in the PBC series during year one, coming out with an endless slew of Fight of the Year contenders. Not straying far from its MMA roots in terms of presentation and tonality, the atmosphere and energy that came with Spike TV telecasts made it must see TV throughout 2015, in which it was named BoxingScene.com Network of the Year.

One change in the series will come in the form of a yet-to-be-named producer. Previously leading the charge was decades-long combat sports guru Rob Beiner, one of the sport’s good guys who suffered a heart attack and suddenly passed away in his Long Island home on February 2 at age 65, shortly after having produced the 2016 premiere of PBC: The Next Round on Bounce TV in Immokalee, Florida.

As for the boxing part of the series, it’s a new network for Broner, who saw high points and low in his 2015 campaign. The outspoken boxer from Cincinnati won the very first televised PBC bout, outpointing John Molina Jr. over 12 rounds in their super lightweight non-title fight, which aired live in primetime on NBC last March.

Broner (31-2, 23KOs) returned three months later, but to far less favorable results. Struggles in training camp (namely, getting the boxer to bite down and commit) led to his second career loss in his NBC-televised clash with Shawn Porter last June. A late rally and a 12th round knockdown wasn’t enough to overcome the early hole which he dug for himself, dropping a unanimous decision in his first loss since being humbled (at least in the ring) by Marcos Maidana in Dec. ’13, conceding his welterweight title – the only belt of his four which he actually lost in the ring.

Despite the setback to Porter, a vacant title opportunity was made available for Broner in his return home to Cincinnati in a Showtime-televised headliner last October. A 12th round stoppage of former champ Khabib Allakhverdiev – who was also coming off of a loss and an 18-month layoff - resulted in his becoming a four-division titlist.

At the time, a rivalry with “big brother” Floyd Mayweather prompted his responding to a challenge from a Mayweather Promotions boxer in Theophane. Speculation lingered as to whether such a matchup was just talk or would actually serve as his first title defense, for better or for worse.

The bout marks his first appearance on Spike, after having previously headlined on HBO, Showtime and NBC in his prime, as well as ESPN2 and Telefutura (now UniMas) earlier in his career.

Theophane (39-6-1, 11KOs) has been a regular on Mayweather Promotions (a/k/a “The Money Team” or “TMT”) events since moving his training headquarters to Las Vegas. He enters his first career title fight having won each of his last six starts, including decision wins over Mahonri Montes in late April and most recently Steven Upsher Chambers last September.

The 10-round win over Montes aired live on ESPN2 from Las Vegas, two days prior to Mayweather’s historic May 2 win over Manny Pacquiao in the richest boxing event of all-time. His win over Upsher was less celebrated though also serving on a notable evening, appearing on the non-televised undercard of Mayweather’s last-ever fight, a 12-round win over Andre Berto – who landed the fight on the heels of a 6th round knockout of Josesito Lopez in the first-ever edition of PBC on Spike last March.

Berto was originally tabbed to headline the Season Two premiere, but his next fight remains in the works as he was swapped out for another “AB” in Broner.

Joining Broner is his training stablemate Easter Jr. The unbeaten lightweight from Toledo, Ohio – who was an alternate on the 2012 U.S. Olympic boxing team – made his PBC debut in June, scoring a 2nd round knockout of Miguel Mendoza in an NBC Sports Network-televised bout that followed Broner’s loss to Porter on the same Las Vegas card.

The upcoming showdown with Mendez will mark the eighth time Easter Jr. and Broner appear on the same show, most recently last October in Cincinnati. Shortly before Broner ended the night with a title-winning knockout over Allakhverdiev, Easter Jr. topped a SHO Extreme telecast in style, scoring a 3rd round knockout of Juan Solis.

The unbeaten 25-year old prospect has scored four straight knockout wins heading into the biggest step up in his young career.

Mendez (23-3-1, 12KOs) eyes one more title run in a career that has endured its share of ups and downs. Having represented his native Dominican Republic in the 2004 Athens Olympics, Mendez – who turns 30 in July – has seen his career stock rise and fail but reach its full potential in a revenge-fueled knockout win over Juan Carlos Salgado in March ’13 to win the super featherweight title.

His title stay lasted 16 months, yet strangely with the knockout over Salgado – against whom he suffered a disputed points loss 18 months prior – representing his only win in a four-fight reign. His Aug. ’13 defense versus Arash Usmanee ended in a 12-round draw, while a Jan. ’14 knockout loss to Rances Barthelemy was converted to a No-Contest when a review upon appeal helped determine that the final blow came after the bell to end round two.

The ruling extended his reign by six months, dropping a decision to Barthelemy in their lethargic July ‘14 rematch, his last-ever fight at super featherweight. He has since won two straight at lightweight, including a 10-round win over Miguel Vasquez in their PBC on Fox Sports 1 headliner last September.
 

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@Newzz how you going to defend this fight? brook had forced mandatories. what is broners excuse for fighting one of his sparring partners? :mjlol:
 

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So basically no fights of note worth caring about until the 27th?

Actually going to check out the Feb 19th Showtime card. Seeing two young brothers fight each other caught my eye:

  • O'Shaquie Foster vs Lavisas Williams, super featherweights, 8 rounds
Hopefully there is a way I can watch it because i'm sure they're not going to show it on TV
O'shaq was TERRIBLY unimpressive last time I saw him
 

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@Newzz how you going to defend this fight? brook had forced mandatories. what is broners excuse for fighting one of his sparring partners? :mjlol:

I dont care for Theophane but you can only fight who wants to fight you.

The WBA mandatory is Jose Benavidez and he ain't trying to catch this wreck.
 

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Biscuits and Benavidez would be a beatdown. Benavidez and Vargas needed to run the fade, while Vargas was angrily dialing BATB--and Benavidez was fighting one of the brake press operators that works in my factory
 

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@Jae you said PBC wasn't fukking with Warrior boxing anymore? Isn't Walters on Warrior? How come he's been showing out (:mjlol:) on HBO?

Also @patscorpio defend your Donaire>Bradley statement please. I'm sure you don't mean resume wise, because we know what happens when Donaire had to run the fade with a P4P'er
 

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@Jae you said PBC wasn't fukking with Warrior boxing anymore? Isn't Walters on Warrior? How come he's been showing out (:mjlol:) on HBO?

Also @patscorpio defend your Donaire>Bradley statement please. I'm sure you don't mean resume wise, because we know what happens when Donaire had to run the fade with a P4P'er

Yeah Bradley definitely a HOFer. His win over Juan Manuel Marquez > any Donaire win plus Tim is a 5× Champion
 

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Also @patscorpio defend your Donaire>Bradley statement please. I'm sure you don't mean resume wise, because we know what happens when Donaire had to run the fade with a P4P'er

i prefer donaire in pretty much almost every aspect of boxing over bradley bruh..heart might be the only thing i give the edge to bradley
 
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