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I don't like Javier Fortuna either:scusthov:
His punching technique is funky, although he gets a lot of snap on his punches. When I've seen him fight he always seems like he just avoided getting his knot rocked, or is out of position etc.
 

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You know damn well McCline ain't deserve that win :rudy: He got the early knockdown and looked good for a couple more rounds after that, until Bryd took over and started landing 5-6 punch combos on that nikka's big ass bucket head. The defense god #RapidFire had him out on his feet and ready to go, but it's hard to put someone away that's 65 more pounds than you with a 6 inch height advantage.

Fight was entertaining and competitive, but the champ rightfully took that win. McCline shot his load and got beat up the 2nd half of the fight.


That was an entertaining ppv card though, you got that part right.

:pachaha: well i guess i should load the fight up on the hub for a rewatch...i havent done much today but laze around watching fights on my day off today..i guess that will be a good one to revisit
 

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Dan Rafael chat wrap 12/18:

- Guesses that Canelo vs. GGG will take place at 157 or 158.
- GGG will make a run to try and make a fight with the Lee-Saunders winner. If he cannot secure that fight, likely he fights Tureano Johnson.
- Disagreed with Iole's take on it being a disappointment that GGG-Canelo is not happening right away. Having an interim fight and then trying to make the fight fall of 2016 is perfectly fine.
- GGG's PPV has not hurt his negotiating power with Canelo.
- Andy Lee's next opponent will come down to money. His promoter DiBella is closely tied to Haymon, but Lee makes his own decisions. If Andy Lee wins expects him to fight GGG or Jacobs next.
- Arum says Crawford will fight 3 times in 2016.
- Texted with RJJ a day after getting KO'd. Said he is not committed either way (continue fighting/retire). The KO was one of the worst he has ever seen.
- No word on Badou Jack. He says he is willing to fight either JCC or DeGale.
- TR says Broner is not being considered for Pacquiao.
- There are efforts to try and make Kovalev and Stevenson for June, but will believe it when he sees it.
- Barthelemy decision over Shafikov.
- Most people are picking Jennings, he is picking Ortiz. Ortiz's team say he is in condition to go 12. Conventional wisdom says if the fight goes 12 it favors Jennings. Less than 12 favors Ortiz.
- Rosado winning over Clottey.
- Lee vs. Saunders is tough. Lee can be outboxed, but he also can be outboxed and still KO you.
- If a fighter gets a $1 million purse, how much does the fighter get? If the purse is $1 million, the promoter has already been taken care of, about 150k to his corner, then taxes and possible sanctioning fees...so roughly 650k-700k.
- Is planning on asking Peter Nielson why don't they use their other HBO platforms to show undercard fights.
- Has not heard rumors of Canelo and Cotto negotiating a rematch for May, but it wouldn't be surprising.
- Has learned to not let it bother him when he sees fighters still fighting who appear very affected by the punishment they have taken. It is the job of his family, promoters, commission, and handlers to make sure he is well taken care of. He will however not be afraid to voice his opinion about those fighters (James Toney).
- Hearn is talking to HBO and Showtime about showing Joshua in the US. Unlikely to fight on US soil anytime soon.
- DiBella raves about Prograis.
- Best six man tournament possible in the HW division? Fury, Wilder, Ortiz, Jennings, Joshua, Parker.
- Benavidez is done at 140. HBO and TR don't trust him to make weight anymore.
- Trainer's have confided in him before that their fighter was in terrible shape.
- Walters said he can still make 126 and will fight between 126 and 130 depending on the money and opponent.
- Arum and Mr. Honda have spoken about making Walters vs. Uchiyama.
- Thought Kauffman eeked out a victory vs. Arreola, but it was close. Was not a horrible decision.
- Warriors Boxing (Haymon) won the purse bid for Glazkov-Martin.
- Joshua vs. Whyte sold 400k. Hatton in his day would sell 1 million. The UK charges a lot less for PPV's than the US.
 
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- Andy Lee's next opponent will come down to money. His promoter DiBella is closely tied to Haymon, but Lee makes his own decisions. If Andy Lee wins expects him to fight GGG or Jacobs next.
:obama:

- Rosado winning over Clottey.
nah

- Lee vs. Saunders is tough. Lee can be outboxed, but he also can be outboxed and still KO you.
thats what im expecting this afternoon

- Benavidez is done at 140. HBO and TR don't trust him to make weight anymore.
- Trainer's have confided in him before that their fighter was in terrible shape.
dude doesn't have it...he should have been lost by now

- Walters said he can still make 126 and will fight between 126 and 130 depending on the money and opponent.
come on axe man..stay your ass in 1 division with your weight issues

- Arum and Mr. Honda have spoken about making Walters vs. Uchiyama.
keep talking..130 needs this fight
 

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So much talent wasting away on that island :francis:

36...wasted his entire prime fukkin' off in the amateurs...with that skillset & talent :francis:

I thought when the US normalized diplomatic relations with Cuba the floodgates would be lifted...but nope pro boxing still illegal there :francis:

And Cuba got some fighters from Middleweight to Heavyweight that are currently beasting in the Am's...they woulda swept Middleweight to Heavyweight in gold medals at the world championships a couple months ago if it wasn't for Erislandy Savon getting robbed.

Muthafukkas like Arlen Lopez, Julio Cesar La Cruz & Erislandy Savon should be in the pros right now putting the beats on eurocacs (like Ortiz should've been 10-15 years ago) instead of wasting their physical primes in 3 rd amateur bouts. :francis:
Every time I see Ortiz fight I think of what could have been. Its a damn shame but hopefully he can make some moves in the division before age catches up to him.
 

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