He can't be the lineal because Cotto wasn't a champion
it's a paper title, he's not the real lineal champ
I forgot he beat Pavlik for the belts I thought sergio got vacant titles
to the rest you fukk boys, I can admit when I was wrong
to ignore the fact the fighters care about the WBC belt more than the others is dismissing reality, Wilder spoke the truth, that's the belt they all want
Floyd stated this, broner stated this already publicly
and go to any gym any fighter will tell you this
Yes
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THE LINEAL TITLE IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE WBC BELT. How many times do you have to be told??
So, to reiterate my previous point:
Lineal champ has nothing to do with a belt. Belts get passed around, stripped, dropped, but the lineal title is only through weight division heritage.
Technically the first man to be champ is the lineal champ and you only get the title of lineal champ if you beat the lineal champ.
No belts needed.
Hopkins cleaned up the division and was the true lineal champ. His lineage passed it to Cotto. Cotto dropped his belt, but the fight still took place at MW. He passed the lineal title to Canelo. Had Cotto won he would have still lost his belt, but he would have retained being lineal champ.
Canelo could drop his belt and GGG could get his belt and he could beat Lee-Saunders and be unified champ, but he isnt lineal champ until he beats Canelo.
Look at why Canelo didnt want to fight for a belt at 154...it was because Mayweather was the man at 154, so he knew any belt he won was worthless. I am not a Canelo fan, but I respect him because he respects the history of boxing.
Also look at Fury saying he would drop the IBF belt if he had to face Glazkov. He didnt care about the belt, because he will always be lineal champ until someone beats him. Doesnt matter if Wilder's belt is more "prestigious". Klitschko held the historical lineal history title (man who beat the man who beat the man).
There is no actual belt for being lineal champ. Lineal champ is only accomplished by tracing the historical roots. Think like tracing your family tree or a purebred animals pedigree.
Being lineal champ is far more prestigious than a organizations belt. There is no politics in lineal history. You only get recognized when you beat the guy who holds the divisions true historical #1.
you can't be the lineal champ with no title period
jesus christ you are moron, I never disputed on paper he was the lineal champ
he only has one belt and thats the WBC belt, without that belt he's not a champion you fukking moron
all you have to do is google canelo WBC, I don't need to post a link fakkit
all I said was Canelo is a paper champ unless he fights Golovkin, which is the reality of the situation
get off my dikk
Cotto wasn't the cham when lost
Canelo has only one belt, you can't be the lineal champ with no title period
once canelo get stripped, you still going to call canelo the lineal champ
he's a paper champ, on paper he is the lineal champ in reality NO
that's what the term paper champ means
You sure?jesus christ you are moron, I never disputed on paper he was the lineal champ
He can't be the lineal because Cotto wasn't a champion
Without the belt he'd still be lineal champion, thoughhe only has one belt and thats the WBC belt, without that belt he's not a champion you fukking moron
all you have to do is google canelo WBC, I don't need to post a link fakkit
@TheNig I don't see a dikk imprint in your avi
You're gonna have to send me one and I'll handle the rest.