Happy Thanksgiving brehs and brehettes,
Dan Rafael chat wrap 11/25:
Canelo-Cotto:
- Figured for Cotto to win he would have to outbox Canelo, so not entirely surprised the fight wasn't a slugfest.
- No official PPV numbers, but has been told it will be at least 900k.
- Not all PPV numbers are created equal regarding success/failure. A PPV needs to sell enough to cover costs, the total number isn't always most important because costs vary. The reason why a 900k (not official) number for Canelo-Cotto is a success vs. why a 900k number for a Floyd PPV is considered a failure.
- Had Jay Z assisted in promoting the fight certainly would have done even more buys.
- Canelo likely could be fighter of the year and have the KO of the year.
- HBO is going to replay Muira-Vargas, Canelo-Cotto, as well as Klitschko-Fury on Saturday.
- There is a rematch clause in the contract, so a rematch is certainly possible.
- The right fighter won, but thought the scorecards were too wide. Nearly every media person ringside had it 116-112 or 115-113 Canelo.
- Canelo vs. Bradley is very unlikely because Canelo is just too big. Now Cotto vs. Bradley would be interesting, but doubts Arum would make it.
- Nothing on who Canelo will fight next, but RN said he would fight on Cinco de Mayo weekend.
- Canelo vs. GGG, Cinco de Mayo weekend at Cowboy Stadium is not improbable, but most likely GGG and Canelo do not fight next.
- If Lemieux rebounded and got a couple wins, then a fight with Canelo would be interesting.
- More likely GGG gets the winner of Lee-Saunders, than Canelo.
- Cotto has always been a sore loser, just like Tito Trinidad.
- Canelo and GGG can negotiate a catchweight. If the fight goes to purse bid, they cannot negotiate a catchweight.
- GB fought against having the concert during the PPV, it was all Roc Nation. Thought it was a crap fest.
- There was a loud bang (sounded like a bomb) during the concert and many people in the stands ducked for cover. Many ringside didn't know what was going on. Roc Nation should apologize for it as it was dangerous and tasteless.
- Julian Jackson vs. Canelo? Jackson could KO anyone in boxing history at 154 or 160.
- Believes Weeks stopped the Muira-Vargas fight at the right time.
- Canelo likely to be mostly on PPV going forward, but his contract does allow him to be on regular HBO.
- In person very obvious how much bigger Canelo was vs. Cotto.
- The atmosphere in the arena was excellent.
The rest of boxing:
- Wlad KO's Fury in the mid-rounds.
- Does not know if Wlad-Fury has a rematch clause, but knowing Klitschko's camp they likely have one and paid well to get it.
- Wlad has told him he will fight for as long as he feels healthy. Not thinking about retirement.
- Bute will make a good account of himself, but DeGale will win. Picking DeGale by KO.
- It will be quite a while before Rigo is on HBO again. His performance actually made him not interested in a Lomachenko fight. His style remains amatuer and it is not fun to watch. Why did he land only 21% of his punches against a journeyman? Rigo did win every second of the fight. The judge who gave the opponent 3 rounds, must have dozed off.
- Arum said Manny should decide his next opponent in the next few days to week.
- JMM is not in the running to be Pacquiao's next opponent because JMM does not care to fight again.
- Thurman vs. Porter is apparently being moved to a later date TBD.
- Garcia vs. Guerrero is an okay fight, but not the one you want to see from PBC. Guerrero has looked done as a fighter his last 4 fights.
- Angel vs. Ruben is slightly more interesting than the fight, but is over their nonsense and not particularly interested in their antics.
- Thought Abraham beat Murray 7-5. The WBO ordered that Abraham fight Gilberto Ramirez next. A Hopkins vs. Abraham fight could not happen until after Abraham-Ramirez.
- Nothing new on what is next for Beterbiev. He is recovering from shoulder surgery.
- Kathy Duva says she is trying to work on getting Stevenson-Kovalev made in the summer.
- Rank Morales, Barrera, and Marquez? 1. Marquez, 2. Barrera, 3. Morales.
- Anthony Joshua is the best up and coming HW.
- Teddy Atlas was the one who voted Ward #1 in the ESPN PFP rankings.
- He was surprised Wlad is so low in their PFP rankings.
- Wilder and Glazkov are finalizing their fight. Espinoza is not right in saying the fight is signed. They are currently working on a rematch clause.
- Nobody gives a crap about Charlo vs. Campfort. There were better fights for Charlo/PBC at 154.
- Inoue will fight again on Dec. 29.
- Martinez vs. Salido 3 is happening next year. Don't expect a Muira-Vargas rematch right away.
- Robert Garcia and TR are very high on Saul Rodriguez.
- Unlikely Vargas gets a rematch with Bradley in 2016.
- Bradley vs. Ali is still a possibility.
- GGG would decapitate Lara.
- Ronnie Rios could possibly be on HBO again with the right fight.
- Ring magazine stripping Stevenson is completely pointless. He doesn't respect Ring magazine. Adonis is still the lineal champ, which is more important.
- Bob Foster was a true gentleman and nice guy. RIP.
- Thurman should be promoted to regular WBA champion next month when the WBA finally gets around to addressing the Floyd, belt situation.
- HBO likely not to show Lee-Saunders. There is a dispute between the promoters on who gets the US TV rights and HBO will not get in the middle and risk litigation. They would rather just pass on the broadcast.
- Haymon will not be hiring Taffert (HBO).
- They never announced the PPV buys for Mosley-Mayorga. Would have been lucky to do 10k.
- Spence vs. Brook? That fight is a long ways off...but Spence can compete with anyone at 147.
