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Axum Ezana
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Trout backed out the Soro fight
damn , i missed that post.
trout been looking funny in the light lately/
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Julian Williams studies the old masters to hone fundamentals
Nov 16, 2015 By Jason Scavone
Julian Williams stands in front of Luciano Cuello, his feet placed slightly wider than his shoulders, almost imperceptibly bent forward at the waist. When he moves in and out, his feet barely come off the canvas as he glides toward and away from his opponent. It’s like watching Michael Jackson in a dance-off with Frankenstein.
Julian Williams delivers a textbook shot to Luciano Cuello. (Suzanne Teresa / Premier Boxing Champions)
All the while, Williams’ head weaves in tight circles. Punches are short and compact. The shot that staggers Cuello, that makes the last eight seconds of their September 22 match a foregone conclusion, comes from the waist.
Julian Williams barely cocks his right hand, just slightly drawing his elbow back as he twists into it, without brining his fist up or over the top. The heel of his front foot lines up neatly with the toes of his back foot, and he stays lightly on the balls of both feet when he delivers the shot. It’s a devastating show, all the more terrifying for its efficiency.
Those sharp fundamentals come from the way Williams and trainer Stephen “Breadman” Edwards will obsessively work for hours on one punch, or footwork, or just shadowboxing in a day of training. But that’s not the only way that Williams fine-tunes his game.
Edwards and Williams also dedicate much of their time to reviewing vintage fight footage, helping Williams root his approach today in the successes of fighters from the past.
Sometimes as time progresses, guys in this era concentrate more on physicality, strength and conditioning work and do a lot of fancy exercises. I’m not saying we don’t do that, but the name of the game is boxing. It’s not a decathlon,” Edwards says. “I think you win fights with solid skill and fundamentals.
"I’ve sent [Williams] clips of Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Terry Norris. I sent him a clip of Salvador Sanchez, Donald Curry. I’ll find somebody who has a similar body type and have him watch it.”
It’s something that started for Edwards when, as a young Leonard fan, his grandfather told him he knew of an even better Sugar Ray: Robinson. A disbelieving Edwards borrowed a VHS tape of Robinson and proceeded to devour it.
In the process, it helped trigger a lifelong appreciation for what old film could reveal.
“I didn’t know who Sugar Ray Robinson was,” Edwards says. “[My grandfather] said, 'Man, I know a guy who’s better than Sugar Ray Leonard.' I’m like no one can be better than Sugar Ray Leonard. He said, 'You’ve got to watch this guy.' I probably watched that movie 150 times.”
Trying to convince most 25-year-old fighters to learn from a boxer whose last bout came 50 years ago would be a tall task. But Williams took Edwards' advice to heart—that a fight doesn’t have to be in high-definition for it to be something from which you can gain valuable information.
So Williams pays attention. Not just to the in-ring technique, either. The fighter Williams studies more than any other is Norris, and Williams’ biggest takeaway is the way Terrible Terry’s conditioning and seemingly inexhaustible gas tank carried him through later rounds.
But it’s not just those things that pertain to the act of boxing that resonate when Williams watches the old-timers. He is just as keen on the way older fighters carried themselves, whether it was Muhammad Ali’s effervescent confidence or how veterans came out the other side of a more trying era completely intact.
“I take away the body work [Robinson] did. I took away how he threw punches off of angles,” Williams says. “How quick his jab was. Those guys were so great. They were fighting in the 15-round era, they were fighting with same-day weigh-ins and they were fighting with those six-ounce horsehair gloves.
"It’s the weirdest thing in the world those dudes’ bodies held up so good that those guys had hundreds of fights. One time I was watching ESPN Classic and they had an interview with Jersey Joe Wolcott and Archie Moore, when these guys were retired, and these dudes were talking clear as day. It was the most amazing thing in the world.”
Julian Williams studies the old masters to hone fundamentals
Nov 16, 2015 By Jason Scavone
Julian Williams stands in front of Luciano Cuello, his feet placed slightly wider than his shoulders, almost imperceptibly bent forward at the waist. When he moves in and out, his feet barely come off the canvas as he glides toward and away from his opponent. It’s like watching Michael Jackson in a dance-off with Frankenstein.
Julian Williams delivers a textbook shot to Luciano Cuello. (Suzanne Teresa / Premier Boxing Champions)
All the while, Williams’ head weaves in tight circles. Punches are short and compact. The shot that staggers Cuello, that makes the last eight seconds of their September 22 match a foregone conclusion, comes from the waist.
Julian Williams barely cocks his right hand, just slightly drawing his elbow back as he twists into it, without brining his fist up or over the top. The heel of his front foot lines up neatly with the toes of his back foot, and he stays lightly on the balls of both feet when he delivers the shot. It’s a devastating show, all the more terrifying for its efficiency.
Those sharp fundamentals come from the way Williams and trainer Stephen “Breadman” Edwards will obsessively work for hours on one punch, or footwork, or just shadowboxing in a day of training. But that’s not the only way that Williams fine-tunes his game.
Edwards and Williams also dedicate much of their time to reviewing vintage fight footage, helping Williams root his approach today in the successes of fighters from the past.
Sometimes as time progresses, guys in this era concentrate more on physicality, strength and conditioning work and do a lot of fancy exercises. I’m not saying we don’t do that, but the name of the game is boxing. It’s not a decathlon,” Edwards says. “I think you win fights with solid skill and fundamentals.
"I’ve sent [Williams] clips of Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Terry Norris. I sent him a clip of Salvador Sanchez, Donald Curry. I’ll find somebody who has a similar body type and have him watch it.”
It’s something that started for Edwards when, as a young Leonard fan, his grandfather told him he knew of an even better Sugar Ray: Robinson. A disbelieving Edwards borrowed a VHS tape of Robinson and proceeded to devour it.
In the process, it helped trigger a lifelong appreciation for what old film could reveal.
“I didn’t know who Sugar Ray Robinson was,” Edwards says. “[My grandfather] said, 'Man, I know a guy who’s better than Sugar Ray Leonard.' I’m like no one can be better than Sugar Ray Leonard. He said, 'You’ve got to watch this guy.' I probably watched that movie 150 times.”
Trying to convince most 25-year-old fighters to learn from a boxer whose last bout came 50 years ago would be a tall task. But Williams took Edwards' advice to heart—that a fight doesn’t have to be in high-definition for it to be something from which you can gain valuable information.
So Williams pays attention. Not just to the in-ring technique, either. The fighter Williams studies more than any other is Norris, and Williams’ biggest takeaway is the way Terrible Terry’s conditioning and seemingly inexhaustible gas tank carried him through later rounds.
But it’s not just those things that pertain to the act of boxing that resonate when Williams watches the old-timers. He is just as keen on the way older fighters carried themselves, whether it was Muhammad Ali’s effervescent confidence or how veterans came out the other side of a more trying era completely intact.
“I take away the body work [Robinson] did. I took away how he threw punches off of angles,” Williams says. “How quick his jab was. Those guys were so great. They were fighting in the 15-round era, they were fighting with same-day weigh-ins and they were fighting with those six-ounce horsehair gloves.
"It’s the weirdest thing in the world those dudes’ bodies held up so good that those guys had hundreds of fights. One time I was watching ESPN Classic and they had an interview with Jersey Joe Wolcott and Archie Moore, when these guys were retired, and these dudes were talking clear as day. It was the most amazing thing in the world.”
Julian Williams studies the old masters to hone fundamentals
Julian Williams studies the old masters to hone fundamentals
Nov 16, 2015 By Jason Scavone
Julian Williams stands in front of Luciano Cuello, his feet placed slightly wider than his shoulders, almost imperceptibly bent forward at the waist. When he moves in and out, his feet barely come off the canvas as he glides toward and away from his opponent. It’s like watching Michael Jackson in a dance-off with Frankenstein.
Julian Williams delivers a textbook shot to Luciano Cuello. (Suzanne Teresa / Premier Boxing Champions)
All the while, Williams’ head weaves in tight circles. Punches are short and compact. The shot that staggers Cuello, that makes the last eight seconds of their September 22 match a foregone conclusion, comes from the waist.
Julian Williams barely cocks his right hand, just slightly drawing his elbow back as he twists into it, without brining his fist up or over the top. The heel of his front foot lines up neatly with the toes of his back foot, and he stays lightly on the balls of both feet when he delivers the shot. It’s a devastating show, all the more terrifying for its efficiency.
Those sharp fundamentals come from the way Williams and trainer Stephen “Breadman” Edwards will obsessively work for hours on one punch, or footwork, or just shadowboxing in a day of training. But that’s not the only way that Williams fine-tunes his game.
Edwards and Williams also dedicate much of their time to reviewing vintage fight footage, helping Williams root his approach today in the successes of fighters from the past.
Sometimes as time progresses, guys in this era concentrate more on physicality, strength and conditioning work and do a lot of fancy exercises. I’m not saying we don’t do that, but the name of the game is boxing. It’s not a decathlon,” Edwards says. “I think you win fights with solid skill and fundamentals.
"I’ve sent [Williams] clips of Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Terry Norris. I sent him a clip of Salvador Sanchez, Donald Curry. I’ll find somebody who has a similar body type and have him watch it.”
It’s something that started for Edwards when, as a young Leonard fan, his grandfather told him he knew of an even better Sugar Ray: Robinson. A disbelieving Edwards borrowed a VHS tape of Robinson and proceeded to devour it.
In the process, it helped trigger a lifelong appreciation for what old film could reveal.
“I didn’t know who Sugar Ray Robinson was,” Edwards says. “[My grandfather] said, 'Man, I know a guy who’s better than Sugar Ray Leonard.' I’m like no one can be better than Sugar Ray Leonard. He said, 'You’ve got to watch this guy.' I probably watched that movie 150 times.”
Trying to convince most 25-year-old fighters to learn from a boxer whose last bout came 50 years ago would be a tall task. But Williams took Edwards' advice to heart—that a fight doesn’t have to be in high-definition for it to be something from which you can gain valuable information.
So Williams pays attention. Not just to the in-ring technique, either. The fighter Williams studies more than any other is Norris, and Williams’ biggest takeaway is the way Terrible Terry’s conditioning and seemingly inexhaustible gas tank carried him through later rounds.
But it’s not just those things that pertain to the act of boxing that resonate when Williams watches the old-timers. He is just as keen on the way older fighters carried themselves, whether it was Muhammad Ali’s effervescent confidence or how veterans came out the other side of a more trying era completely intact.
“I take away the body work [Robinson] did. I took away how he threw punches off of angles,” Williams says. “How quick his jab was. Those guys were so great. They were fighting in the 15-round era, they were fighting with same-day weigh-ins and they were fighting with those six-ounce horsehair gloves.
"It’s the weirdest thing in the world those dudes’ bodies held up so good that those guys had hundreds of fights. One time I was watching ESPN Classic and they had an interview with Jersey Joe Wolcott and Archie Moore, when these guys were retired, and these dudes were talking clear as day. It was the most amazing thing in the world.”
Julian Williams studies the old masters to hone fundamentals
I love J Rock and Breadman
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
Uchiyama, Taguchi defend WBA belts in Tokyo on December 31
It was announced in Tokyo that the traditional evening of New Year's Eve on December 31, 2015 will see two champions of the World Boxing Association defend their titles.
Ryoichi Taguchi and Takashi Uchiyama both fight in Ota City on the night.
Uchiyama (23-0-1, 19 KO), the current 130 lbs super champion will defend his crown against an opponent ranked seventh in the division, Oliver Flores.
The Japanese boxer, who makes his eleventh defense of the WBA crown, told the media in his country that he will go for the KO, without departing from the artistic boxing he has always exhibited. He also said that within his next objectives is to make a fight in the United States during 2016.
If possible, in the words of Uchiyama himself and his team, he would like to address possible debut outside Japanese territory against the Jamaican Nicholas Walters
Before that, he must overcome the obstacle that presents itself in the Nicaraguan next month in Tokyo. Emerging victorious, Uchiyama would then approach the record held by compatriot Yoko Gushiken who made 13 defenses of his crown.
The co-featured bout of the program will see Taguchi (22-2-1, 9 KO) fight with Colombian Luis De la Rosa (24-5-1, 24 KO) in the second defense of his crown.
It was announced in Tokyo that the traditional evening of New Year's Eve on December 31, 2015 will see two champions of the World Boxing Association defend their titles.
Ryoichi Taguchi and Takashi Uchiyama both fight in Ota City on the night.
Uchiyama (23-0-1, 19 KO), the current 130 lbs super champion will defend his crown against an opponent ranked seventh in the division, Oliver Flores.
The Japanese boxer, who makes his eleventh defense of the WBA crown, told the media in his country that he will go for the KO, without departing from the artistic boxing he has always exhibited. He also said that within his next objectives is to make a fight in the United States during 2016.
If possible, in the words of Uchiyama himself and his team, he would like to address possible debut outside Japanese territory against the Jamaican Nicholas Walters
Before that, he must overcome the obstacle that presents itself in the Nicaraguan next month in Tokyo. Emerging victorious, Uchiyama would then approach the record held by compatriot Yoko Gushiken who made 13 defenses of his crown.
The co-featured bout of the program will see Taguchi (22-2-1, 9 KO) fight with Colombian Luis De la Rosa (24-5-1, 24 KO) in the second defense of his crown.
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Jesus Christ
January 23rd?
Deontay Wilder vs Czar Glazkov
Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter
Danny Garcia vs Robert Guerrero
Adrien Broner vs Ashley Theophane
^^^All fights rumored to be scheduled for January
What if that was the debut card of PBC on Fox...which is scheduled to start airing in January?
I know it wont be, but just think....what if that WAS the card brehs
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
January 23rd?
Deontay Wilder vs Czar Glazkov
Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter
Danny Garcia vs Robert Guerrero
Adrien Broner vs Ashley Theophane
^^^All fights rumored to be scheduled for January
What if that was the debut card of PBC on Fox...which is scheduled to start airing in January?
I know it wont be, but just think....what if that WAS the card brehs
jrock vs soro too. that would be dope card.
