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Its not excuses because there is no fight contract on the table. No negotiations, not a venue, no announcement from the promoter...nothing. All we have is Shawn and Keith saying they were down to fight and from there Kenny Porter talking like that was all that was needed to make the fight official.
If the Porter camp had signed and Keith didn't then you would have a point but right now all we got is both dudes publicly saying they were down to fight and then nothing official from PBC about the fight at all.

No we don't. We haven't heard from "The Mute" since he did the face off:mjlol:


Like I said, he was real reckless talking about everyone else, but now that it's Porter, it's "silence is basically normal behavior for him":dead:



Okay breh:heh:



So while you may consider the daily ramblings of Kenny Porter as gospel, I have been calling bullshyt on his claims of people ducking Shawn since he said Swift declined a fight against his son.
But you go right on leaping to them conclusions if you want to, bruh. All your questions are not based on anything. Maybe Keith called Haymon maybe he didn't. Who knows? But nothing that has come from The Porters leads me to assume that Keith is ducking because there has never been one second of negotiating. Why aren't Kenny and Shawn calling Allah Haymon? Do they just sit at home waiting for Haymon to create a fight for them and don't even bother to ask any questions?

You ask this question.....but didn't you JUST say:


Finally, if there is no contract then that is an issue to be addressed to Allah Haymon because he is in charge of those things.


:jbhmm:


So on one hand, you say in favor of Thurman NOT calling Haymon to get the fight....Haymon is in charge of those things. But on the other hand, you turn around and ask me do the Porters sit at home waiting for Haymon to get a fight?:jbhmm:


Which one is it? Is Haymon in charge of those things or not?:heh:







And I never slandered Swift at all (I wasn't a fan of that Salka fight though) because I am a fan of Danny like I do all the fighters from this area.
Even though I recall you were all :cape: when Biscuits was backtracking like a ho at the mere mention of Danny Garcia's name. The "Winds of Standom" blows both ways, homie.

#TheColiRemembers:lethallisp:




The difference between :aboutbillions: and
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is that Adrien Broner has already faced tougher competition than Thurman, including fighting 3 of the fighters Thurman CLAIMED he wanted to fight in Malignaggi, Maidana & Porter.


His victory over Malignaggi is also better than any victory Thurman has at 147:umad:


You'd be best kept to AB out of any discussion involving Keith Thurman:sas2:



Lastly, I just LOVE the way you avoided my whole previous post, ESPECIALLY the whole thing about him quick to run his mouth about Spence/Khan/Floyd/Virgil Hunter, but not Shawn Porter....but that's because we both know there's no way you can touch it without admitting
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is looking shaky baby:smugbiden:



#AboutBillions



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You know what #Thurminators, we're done arguing back & forth about this, because you're never gonna see it the way I see things and vice versa. No need for us to keep volleyballing back and forth:yeshrug:

Hopefully, one day the 2 (Porter & Thurman) actually meet up and settle the score in the ring. Until then though, it's no point because we're gonna keep running into the dividing wall between what our opinions are:manny:
 

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@Mook :francis: why you acting like the podcast ducking you. We been told you when we were coming on I even posted that we needed people to break down ggg last fight a couple of weeks ago. Just cause you went MIA doesn't mean we didn't want you on. :salute: @Newzz for holding FTESWL down you always good by me breh :myman:

What time do you do it? :francis:
 

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Tomorrow at 6pm PT on the BadCulture Radio Network we kick off our first installment of "Bread & Red" on Boxing. With Stephen "Breadman" Edwards (Julian Williams trainer/Boxingscene contributor) and Red Spikes (Terrence Crawford's trainer). This will be a monthly show.
 

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You ask this question.....but didn't you JUST say:





:jbhmm:


So on one hand, you say in favor of Thurman NOT calling Haymon to get the fight....Haymon is in charge of those things. But on the other hand, you turn around and ask me do the Porters sit at home waiting for Haymon to get a fight?:jbhmm:


Which one is it? Is Haymon in charge of those things or not?:heh:
Well that whole portion of my post was in direct response to your hypothetical questions about why Thurman isn't banging on Al Haymon's doors in the middle of the night to get a contract out of him. So I answered your hypotheticals with my own hypotheticals to illustrate that posing hypothetical questions about who is or is not contacting the decision makers at PBC is pure silliness.





The difference between :aboutbillions: and
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is that Adrien Broner has already faced tougher competition than Thurman, including fighting 3 of the fighters Thurman CLAIMED he wanted to fight in Malignaggi, Maidana & Porter.


His victory over Malignaggi is also better than any victory Thurman has at 147:umad:


You'd be best kept to AB out of any discussion involving Keith Thurman:sas2:
Except my bringing that up had much less to do with Biscuits and more to do with you and your own hypocritical stanning behavior. Biscuits may or may not be a ducker but when he got visibly shook by the horrifying realization that Swift heard his challenge and replied with a "let's do it" you now you put on your cape and tights and flew in for the save.


Lastly, I just LOVE the way you avoided my whole previous post, ESPECIALLY the whole thing about him quick to run his mouth about Spence/Khan/Floyd/Virgil Hunter, but not Shawn Porter....but that's because we both know there's no way you can touch it without admitting
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is looking shaky baby:smugbiden:



#AboutBillions



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Keith talks tons of shyt but when it came for a face to face with Shawn and his daddy, Keith showed no fear and was down with fighting Shawn. As I recall the only person acting shook in the video where they did their fake face-off was Kenny anyway. He was acting like a starstruck schoolgirl around Keith.

And since both fighters publicly said they wanted the fight the onus then shifts to PBC to come up with the date, all this extra stuff is just posturing on the part of Kenny Porter that you are buying because you are a Porter stan.
 

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You know what #Thurminators, we're done arguing back & forth about this, because you're never gonna see it the way I see things and vice versa. No need for us to keep volleyballing back and forth:yeshrug:

Hopefully, one day the 2 (Porter & Thurman) actually meet up and settle the score in the ring. Until then though, it's no point because we're gonna keep running into the dividing wall between what our opinions are:manny:
I posted my previous response before I saw this post.:merchant:

And I am confident that we will see Thurman/Porter in early 2016 on either NBC or Fox from Las Vegas because PBC has to see the fan interest and the one thing you can't say about Allah Haymon is that he is a bad businessman.
 

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I posted my previous response before I saw this post.:merchant:


Don't worry about it breh:obama:


And I am confident that we will see Thurman/Porter in early 2016 on either NBC or Fox from Las Vegas because PBC has to see the fan interest and the one thing you can't say about Allah Haymon is that he is a bad businessman.

True. The fight is definitely anticipated, and if pushing it back to January 23rd (which ironically AB is supposed to fight Theophane around that time too...may be on the undercard), we might have a great PBC card to start 2016 off right:banderas:
 

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Charlo: 'If Floyd wants to hold title, then come fight me'
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Jermell Charlo’s motivation is simple: He’s just looking for an opportunity to compete for a world title.

It’s an endeavor that has eluded the unbeaten junior middleweight since making the leap from prospect to contender over the past two years.

Charlo (26-0, 11 KOs) believed he was there in December 2014, before then-titlist Demetrius Andrade pulled out of their bout -- despite a career-high payday -- in the 11th hour. Since then, it has been a political nightmare.

Jermell Charlo-Joachim Alcine
Where: Houston, Texas
When: Saturday, 9 p.m. ET
TV: NBC Sports Net

A native of Houston, Charlo returns to his hometown Saturday in a 10-round bout against veteran Joachim Alcine (35-7-2, 21 KOs) in the main event of a Premier Boxing Champions card (NBC Sports Net, 11 p.m. ET) at NRG Arena.

Charlo, 25, pulls no punches by saying the Alcine fight “was made to stay busy.” Despite scoring his biggest victory to date in March when he outpointed former title challenger Vanes Martirosyan, Charlo has very few inroads to a title shot based upon the way things stand for him both personally and politically.

His twin brother, Jermall Charlo, holds the IBF title after stopping Cornelius Bundrage in September. Their stablemate and sparring partner, Erislandy Lara, holds the secondary version of the WBA strap.

Outside of England’s Liam Smith, who won the vacant WBO belt from John Thompson two weeks ago, the remaining two belts at 154 pounds are currently in the hands of former pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather.

Not only has it been two years since Mayweather last competed at junior middleweight, he retired following his victory over Andre Berto in September yet still hasn’t been stripped by the WBA and WBC.

For Charlo, that’s a problem.

“If Floyd Mayweather wants to continue holding that title, I’m a young gun and am coming to try and take it,” Charlo told ESPN.com. “If Floyd wants to hold it, then come fight me. I’m ranked No. 1 at 154 [by the WBC] so we can make a weight adjustment.

“He has yet to fight a young, black undefeated fighter and a hungry one at the same time. I felt Berto was young and black, but not hungry and obviously not within my caliber as a top contender.”


Like many in the sport, Charlo believes Mayweather will soon return to the ring and refers to his retirement as simply “a long vacation.” He also believes the sanctioning bodies will continue to bend their own rules in Mayweather’s favor.

“He’s doing it because he’s in and out of his mind saying that he wants to leave this game alone or he wants to stay and continue to make these $30 million [purses],” Charlo said. “But the problem is that he’s going to continue to run into young studs and I’m one of them.”

Charlo also intends to drop himself from the IBF rankings in order to not disrupt his brother’s reign. It’s a move he considers fair and the opposite of what Mayweather is currently doing.

“Floyd is controlling that division and we are not like Floyd,” Charlo said. “We are not just trying to hold spots.”

Charlo, who owns a wide decision win over Gabriel Rosado in 2014, isn’t deterred by being forced to wait. If anything, it’s par for the course throughout an eight-year pro career where nothing has come easy.

“I never had a walk in the park in my career,” Charlo said. “Nothing has been easy for me and I’ve been a dog trying to get it. I’m searching for my bones. I want to be a superstar in the junior middleweight division.”

Charlo believes his victory over Martirosyan showcased his movement, power and ability to dictate a fight. He was also pleased Martirosyan went back on his word about getting a tattoo of the Charlo brothers’ motto, Lions Only, if Charlo was victorious.

“[Martirosyan] was barking about that but I wouldn’t even want him to put my Lions Only tatted on him,” Charlo said. “He did have a lion on him and he thought he had a lion on the inside until he ran into a real lion and that’s what happened.”

For Charlo and his twin brother, Lions Only has grown to become more than just a catchy hashtag on social media.

“It’s a lifestyle. It’s our own brand and we’ve already trademarked it,” Charlo said. “We live and die by Lions Only because not too many people can go through the struggle of life the way my brother and I have and still be on top and make it as far as we are making it right now.”

While Charlo waits patiently for his shot, his focus Saturday will be squarely on Alcine, 39, who is 2-0-1 since snapping a five-fight losing skid in 2014.

“I can’t continue to focus on why I haven’t had yet won a world title, I need to focus on being a better fighter,” Charlo said. “I feel [Alcine] is going to try to dictate and take advantage that I’m young. But he fails to realize that I’m all that, as well.

“He’s going to come trying to bully me and be rough but I’m going to make it rough for him. I’m going to win this fight by knockout.”




Charlo: 'If Floyd wants to hold title, then come fight me'



Why does everyone wanna keep calling out a retired fighter:snoop:



 
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