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Golovkin's opponents need to all make a call to the honorable Brother Naazim.
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That's what I was saying the other day. Dude gloves look small and you can see the air floating the shape of the knuckles when he throws in slow mo. Not saying he's guilty but his gloves look not so ordinary.
 

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Let that be Bertos glove or The Mexican Heros glove tho :francis:

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remember when i asked that casual fan did he know ggg and he said he didn't know him.

and i bet some nikkas on here thought i was lying ......ggg is not big as some think he is.

we get so blinded by multiple aliases on social media that we forget what the real world thinks.

We tried to tell em breh but these nikkas drink that fat dan/hbo/boxing "media" kool aid.
 

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@Yuzo with all the talks about GGG-Ward lately...would you care to provide a breakdown of what you think could potentially happen in a fight between these two?
i think andre ward beats gennady golovkin.

heres andre ward pushing off of his front foot sliding his back foot backward with it in the same motion and stepping back. this kind of movement forces a fighter that is coming forward to have to balk on the way in a lot because every time you push off of your front foot and step back you are always set and ready to punch.

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and when andre ward is pushing off of his front foot and stepping back he likes to jab with it in the same motion.

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this does two things 1. you can work the space in front of the head and 2. you can maintain a steady workrate. by working the space in front of the head you prevent a fighter from slipping it and therefore from countering it. you outwork a fighter when you are throwing it because of the way you can safely fill in a lot of the dead time in a round with it and you force that fighter to have to come forward and try to force your jab to pass through slip space to counter it. when a fighter is trying to come forward to try to force your jab that you are working to the space in front of the head through slip space you can push off of your back foot sliding your front foot forward with it in the same motion and make that fighter walk into a hard stepping in jab.

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by mixing your jabs you force a fighter to have to stay back and get hung out on the end of it or risk being hit by it on the way in. this is why a lot of the fighters that fight andre ward get hung out on the end of the jab a lot.

i think that because andre ward is always set and ready to punch when he is using the ring golovkin cant apply the same constant pressure that he used against runners like geale or rosado. i think that on the way in golovkin is going to be forced to have to worry about walking into punches especially the jab to the body. i think that in the center of the ring golovkin is going to only have two real choices. stay back and get hung out on the end of the jab or come in on it and risk walking straight into shots and more specifically walking straight into the jab to the body.

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i think that to make it a fight golovkin is going to have to walk through fire to get to andre ward. i think that golovkin has to be a dog. but i dont know if thats what golovkin actually is.

in the center of the ring golovkin likes to push off of the back foot to throw jabs and transfer body weight over to the front leg to steal lead right hands in the same motion on the way in. he likes to use head movement with the lead right hand because of the way that you can throw it from the same motion and therefore utilize your head movement as a feint for the lead right hand and as a way to avoid punches on the way in at the same time.

heres the jab

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heres the head movement with the lead right hand on the way in

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golovkin has a tendency to suddenly move straight back from punches on the way in and throw a check hook with it in the same motion.

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i think that because of this tendency even when golovkin maneuvers fighters to the ropes or into a corner he likes to maintain enough space on the way in to move straight back from punches and throw a check hook. that backfires at times for golovkin because it gives fighters the room that they need to get away from the ropes or out of a corner instead.

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golovkin cant do this against andre ward. when golovkin has maneuvered andre ward to the ropes or into a corner he cant try to maintain enough space to throw a check hook he has to come in and be a dog every time.

however i think that golovkin is a more dangerous fighter on the way in than he is on the inside and andre ward would try to meet golovkin on the way in a lot to smother golovkins punches.

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the motion that you make is the same motion that you make to slip a jab through the space that you have next to your right ear and over your right shoulder or to throw a right hand.

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this would prevent golovkin from getting the extension that he would need to have to punch and i think that because andre ward is bigger and likely physically stronger he would actually wear golovkin down a lot this way.

one of the dangers for andre ward is the way that this makes you get really square. every time a fighter gets really square you create a good angle for left hooks to come around your right elbow.

LLjiPr2.gif


that was how gerry c00ney knocked out ron lyle.

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golovkin is really good at coming around your right elbow with a left hook and can turn a fight around with this punch.

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i dont think that golovkin can beat andre ward in the center of the ring and i dont think that golovkin can beat andre ward on the inside. i think that golovkin has a punchers chance but probably gets shut out.
 

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i think andre ward beats gennady golovkin.

heres andre ward pushing off of his front foot sliding his back foot backward with it in the same motion and stepping back. this kind of movement forces a fighter that is coming forward to have to balk on the way in a lot because every time you push off of your front foot and step back you are always set and ready to punch.

0btp7dc.gif


and when andre ward is pushing off of his front foot and stepping back he likes to jab with it in the same motion.

p36y7oX.gif


this does two things 1. you can work the space in front of the head and 2. you can maintain a steady workrate. by working the space in front of the head you prevent a fighter from slipping it and therefore from countering it. you outwork a fighter when you are throwing it because of the way you can safely fill in a lot of the dead time in a round with it and you force that fighter to have to come forward and try to force your jab to pass through slip space to counter it. when a fighter is trying to come forward to try to force your jab that you are working to the space in front of the head through slip space you can push off of your back foot sliding your front foot forward with it in the same motion and make that fighter walk into a hard stepping in jab.

XUIUiq3.gif


by mixing your jabs you force a fighter to have to stay back and get hung out on the end of it or risk being hit by it on the way in. this is why a lot of the fighters that fight andre ward get hung out on the end of the jab a lot.

i think that because andre ward is always set and ready to punch when he is using the ring golovkin cant apply the same constant pressure that he used against runners like geale or rosado. i think that on the way in golovkin is going to be forced to have to worry about walking into punches especially the jab to the body. i think that in the center of the ring golovkin is going to only have two real choices. stay back and get hung out on the end of the jab or come in on it and risk walking straight into shots and more specifically walking straight into the jab to the body.

C1MLYBk.gif


g5jTBj1.gif


i think that to make it a fight golovkin is going to have to walk through fire to get to andre ward. i think that golovkin has to be a dog. but i dont know if thats what golovkin actually is.

in the center of the ring golovkin likes to push off of the back foot to throw jabs and transfer body weight over to the front leg to steal lead right hands in the same motion on the way in. he likes to use head movement with the lead right hand because of the way that you can throw it from the same motion and therefore utilize your head movement as a feint for the lead right hand and as a way to avoid punches on the way in at the same time.

heres the jab

i3hS1EX.gif


heres the head movement with the lead right hand on the way in

sViwkfD.gif


golovkin has a tendency to suddenly move straight back from punches on the way in and throw a check hook with it in the same motion.

h3jSzOD.gif


dlfHyAc.gif


i think that because of this tendency even when golovkin maneuvers fighters to the ropes or into a corner he likes to maintain enough space on the way in to move straight back from punches and throw a check hook. that backfires at times for golovkin because it gives fighters the room that they need to get away from the ropes or out of a corner instead.

rZsqIWG.gif


SarmOPo.gif


golovkin cant do this against andre ward. when golovkin has maneuvered andre ward to the ropes or into a corner he cant try to maintain enough space to throw a check hook he has to come in and be a dog every time.

however i think that golovkin is a more dangerous fighter on the way in than he is on the inside and andre ward would try to meet golovkin on the way in a lot to smother golovkins punches.

RSr6NqA.gif


the motion that you make is the same motion that you make to slip a jab through the space that you have next to your right ear and over your right shoulder or to throw a right hand.

GK0mIbp.gif


this would prevent golovkin from getting the extension that he would need to have to punch and i think that because andre ward is bigger and likely physically stronger he would actually wear golovkin down a lot this way.

one of the dangers for andre ward is the way that this makes you get really square. every time a fighter gets really square you create a good angle for left hooks to come around your right elbow.

LLjiPr2.gif


that was how gerry c00ney knocked out ron lyle.

CPaSuKH.gif


golovkin is really good at coming around your right elbow with a left hook and can turn a fight around with this punch.

Lx2VleT.gif


i dont think that golovkin can beat andre ward in the center of the ring and i dont think that golovkin can beat andre ward on the inside. i think that golovkin has a punchers chance but probably gets shut out.

Lemme go warm up the baby oil b4 I read this :whoo:
 

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i think andre ward beats gennady golovkin.

heres andre ward pushing off of his front foot sliding his back foot backward with it in the same motion and stepping back. this kind of movement forces a fighter that is coming forward to have to balk on the way in a lot because every time you push off of your front foot and step back you are always set and ready to punch.

0btp7dc.gif


and when andre ward is pushing off of his front foot and stepping back he likes to jab with it in the same motion.

p36y7oX.gif


this does two things 1. you can work the space in front of the head and 2. you can maintain a steady workrate. by working the space in front of the head you prevent a fighter from slipping it and therefore from countering it. you outwork a fighter when you are throwing it because of the way you can safely fill in a lot of the dead time in a round with it and you force that fighter to have to come forward and try to force your jab to pass through slip space to counter it. when a fighter is trying to come forward to try to force your jab that you are working to the space in front of the head through slip space you can push off of your back foot sliding your front foot forward with it in the same motion and make that fighter walk into a hard stepping in jab.

XUIUiq3.gif


by mixing your jabs you force a fighter to have to stay back and get hung out on the end of it or risk being hit by it on the way in. this is why a lot of the fighters that fight andre ward get hung out on the end of the jab a lot.

i think that because andre ward is always set and ready to punch when he is using the ring golovkin cant apply the same constant pressure that he used against runners like geale or rosado. i think that on the way in golovkin is going to be forced to have to worry about walking into punches especially the jab to the body. i think that in the center of the ring golovkin is going to only have two real choices. stay back and get hung out on the end of the jab or come in on it and risk walking straight into shots and more specifically walking straight into the jab to the body.

C1MLYBk.gif


g5jTBj1.gif


i think that to make it a fight golovkin is going to have to walk through fire to get to andre ward. i think that golovkin has to be a dog. but i dont know if thats what golovkin actually is.

in the center of the ring golovkin likes to push off of the back foot to throw jabs and transfer body weight over to the front leg to steal lead right hands in the same motion on the way in. he likes to use head movement with the lead right hand because of the way that you can throw it from the same motion and therefore utilize your head movement as a feint for the lead right hand and as a way to avoid punches on the way in at the same time.

heres the jab

i3hS1EX.gif


heres the head movement with the lead right hand on the way in

sViwkfD.gif


golovkin has a tendency to suddenly move straight back from punches on the way in and throw a check hook with it in the same motion.

h3jSzOD.gif


dlfHyAc.gif


i think that because of this tendency even when golovkin maneuvers fighters to the ropes or into a corner he likes to maintain enough space on the way in to move straight back from punches and throw a check hook. that backfires at times for golovkin because it gives fighters the room that they need to get away from the ropes or out of a corner instead.

rZsqIWG.gif


SarmOPo.gif


golovkin cant do this against andre ward. when golovkin has maneuvered andre ward to the ropes or into a corner he cant try to maintain enough space to throw a check hook he has to come in and be a dog every time.

however i think that golovkin is a more dangerous fighter on the way in than he is on the inside and andre ward would try to meet golovkin on the way in a lot to smother golovkins punches.

RSr6NqA.gif


the motion that you make is the same motion that you make to slip a jab through the space that you have next to your right ear and over your right shoulder or to throw a right hand.

GK0mIbp.gif


this would prevent golovkin from getting the extension that he would need to have to punch and i think that because andre ward is bigger and likely physically stronger he would actually wear golovkin down a lot this way.

one of the dangers for andre ward is the way that this makes you get really square. every time a fighter gets really square you create a good angle for left hooks to come around your right elbow.

LLjiPr2.gif


that was how gerry c00ney knocked out ron lyle.

CPaSuKH.gif


golovkin is really good at coming around your right elbow with a left hook and can turn a fight around with this punch.

Lx2VleT.gif


i dont think that golovkin can beat andre ward in the center of the ring and i dont think that golovkin can beat andre ward on the inside. i think that golovkin has a punchers chance but probably gets shut out.

Breh the way you broke this sht down would make a grown man cry. :mjcry: do you break other sports down like this :whoo:
 

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i think andre ward beats gennady golovkin.

heres andre ward pushing off of his front foot sliding his back foot backward with it in the same motion and stepping back. this kind of movement forces a fighter that is coming forward to have to balk on the way in a lot because every time you push off of your front foot and step back you are always set and ready to punch.

0btp7dc.gif


and when andre ward is pushing off of his front foot and stepping back he likes to jab with it in the same motion.

p36y7oX.gif


this does two things 1. you can work the space in front of the head and 2. you can maintain a steady workrate. by working the space in front of the head you prevent a fighter from slipping it and therefore from countering it. you outwork a fighter when you are throwing it because of the way you can safely fill in a lot of the dead time in a round with it and you force that fighter to have to come forward and try to force your jab to pass through slip space to counter it. when a fighter is trying to come forward to try to force your jab that you are working to the space in front of the head through slip space you can push off of your back foot sliding your front foot forward with it in the same motion and make that fighter walk into a hard stepping in jab.

XUIUiq3.gif


by mixing your jabs you force a fighter to have to stay back and get hung out on the end of it or risk being hit by it on the way in. this is why a lot of the fighters that fight andre ward get hung out on the end of the jab a lot.

i think that because andre ward is always set and ready to punch when he is using the ring golovkin cant apply the same constant pressure that he used against runners like geale or rosado. i think that on the way in golovkin is going to be forced to have to worry about walking into punches especially the jab to the body. i think that in the center of the ring golovkin is going to only have two real choices. stay back and get hung out on the end of the jab or come in on it and risk walking straight into shots and more specifically walking straight into the jab to the body.

C1MLYBk.gif


g5jTBj1.gif


i think that to make it a fight golovkin is going to have to walk through fire to get to andre ward. i think that golovkin has to be a dog. but i dont know if thats what golovkin actually is.

in the center of the ring golovkin likes to push off of the back foot to throw jabs and transfer body weight over to the front leg to steal lead right hands in the same motion on the way in. he likes to use head movement with the lead right hand because of the way that you can throw it from the same motion and therefore utilize your head movement as a feint for the lead right hand and as a way to avoid punches on the way in at the same time.

heres the jab

i3hS1EX.gif


heres the head movement with the lead right hand on the way in

sViwkfD.gif


golovkin has a tendency to suddenly move straight back from punches on the way in and throw a check hook with it in the same motion.

h3jSzOD.gif


dlfHyAc.gif


i think that because of this tendency even when golovkin maneuvers fighters to the ropes or into a corner he likes to maintain enough space on the way in to move straight back from punches and throw a check hook. that backfires at times for golovkin because it gives fighters the room that they need to get away from the ropes or out of a corner instead.

rZsqIWG.gif


SarmOPo.gif


golovkin cant do this against andre ward. when golovkin has maneuvered andre ward to the ropes or into a corner he cant try to maintain enough space to throw a check hook he has to come in and be a dog every time.

however i think that golovkin is a more dangerous fighter on the way in than he is on the inside and andre ward would try to meet golovkin on the way in a lot to smother golovkins punches.

RSr6NqA.gif


the motion that you make is the same motion that you make to slip a jab through the space that you have next to your right ear and over your right shoulder or to throw a right hand.

GK0mIbp.gif


this would prevent golovkin from getting the extension that he would need to have to punch and i think that because andre ward is bigger and likely physically stronger he would actually wear golovkin down a lot this way.

one of the dangers for andre ward is the way that this makes you get really square. every time a fighter gets really square you create a good angle for left hooks to come around your right elbow.

LLjiPr2.gif


that was how gerry c00ney knocked out ron lyle.

CPaSuKH.gif


golovkin is really good at coming around your right elbow with a left hook and can turn a fight around with this punch.

Lx2VleT.gif


i dont think that golovkin can beat andre ward in the center of the ring and i dont think that golovkin can beat andre ward on the inside. i think that golovkin has a punchers chance but probably gets shut out.







its over:wow:
 

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Takashi Miura will defend WBC super-feather title on Miguel Cotto-Saul Alvarez undercard


Miura will fight Francisco Vargas on November 21 at the Mandalay Bay and Jayson Velez-Ronny Rios is also added to the card




ALREADY destined to be one of the best fight nights of 2015, a stellar televised undercard for the Saturday, November 21 showdown between Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez will provide even more punch to an already highly anticipated event from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas which will be produced and distributed live by HBO Pay-Per-View beginning at 9:00 p.m. ET/6:00 p.m. PT.

Highly touted Takashi Miura (29-2-2, 22 KOs) of Tokyo, Japan will defend his WBC Super Featherweight title for the fifth time against Mexico City, Mexico’s unbeaten Francisco Vargas (22-0-1, 16 KOs) in a 12-round battle which is presented in association with Teiken Promotions. Hailing from the same city as headliner Miguel Cotto, and co-promoted by the Puerto Rican legend’s Miguel Cotto Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions, undefeated, multiple-regional title champion Jayson Velez (23-0-1, 16 KOs) of Caguas, Puerto Rico, will face Santa Ana, California’s Ronny Rios (24-1, 10 KOs) in a highly anticipated 10-round featherweight bout. An additional televised bout will be announced shortly.

“Bringing sports fans an event featuring what is likely to be the 2015 Fight of the Year in Cotto vs. Canelo is great, but adding a highly entertaining undercard makes it greater,” said David Itskowitch, COO Boxing of Roc Nation Sports. “The announcement of these two televised undercard fights brings additional excitement and value for fans watching the event live in Las Vegas or at home on HBO Pay-Per-View.”

“On November 21, the best fighters in boxing will gather for one epic night in Las Vegas,” said Oscar De La Hoya, Chairman and CEO of Golden Boy Promotions. “Audiences will not only see the two biggest stars battle, Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez, but every fighter featured on the card brings the highest caliber of talent propelling the sport further into a new golden age of boxing.”

“I believe Velez vs. Rios is a great match for both fighters,” said Hector Soto, Vice President of Miguel Cotto Promotions. “The winner will be a step away from a title shot and it adds more drama to the Puerto Rico vs. Mexico rivalry. In Ronny Rios we have a tough fighter and Jayson Velez is a warrior that brings action into the ring.”

“Francisco Vargas has proved himself to be a tough competitor,” said Miura. “But, I have repeatedly fought to keep my WBC title and on November 21, I will show American fans once again why I am a champion.”

“To add the WBC title to my NABF and WBO Intercontinental titles would be the ultimate victory and a great ending to 2015,” said Vargas. “I am training hard and ready to bring a fight to the ring at Mandalay Bay. Takashi Miura better be ready because I am coming for him on November 21.”

“I have been working to make a name for myself and show fans that I am a true undefeated champion,” said Velez. “This fight against Ronny Rios represents an important next step in my career and I am hungry for the win. To fight on the same card as Miguel Cotto and to represent Puerto Rico in Las Vegas in what is sure to be one of this year’s biggest nights in boxing is surreal.”

“I was dealt the first loss of my career not long ago, but that has only made me more focused and driven,” said Rios. “I have already sought redemption and am now ready to continue on my path to a world title. Jayson Velez may prove to be a tough opponent, but I will be ready for him. Come November 21, Velez will know what a first career loss will feel like.”

Southpaw power-puncher Takashi Miura is a force at super featherweight who is excited to make his United States debut on the Cotto vs. Canelo undercard. Unbeaten since 2011, the 31-year-old from Tokyo has scored several notable wins in that timeframe, stopping Gamaliel Diaz to take the WBC title, turning back Sergio “Yeyo” Thompson and defeating former world champion Billy “The Kid” Dib in defense of his belt. On November 21, he will expect a similar result when he faces Vargas.

A member of the 2008 Mexican Olympic team, Francisco “El Bandido” Vargas turned professional in 2010 and is now one win away from a coveted world championship. The NABF and WBO Intercontinental champion at 130 pounds, the 30-year-old Mexico City native has blasted through his last three opponents, halting former World Champion Juan Manuel “Juanma” Lopez, Genaro “Duro” Camargo and “Wild” Will Tomlinson to earn his shot at Miura in a fight boxing fans can’t wait to see.

Hailing from the same city in Puerto Rico as headliner Miguel Cotto, 27-year-old Caguas native Jayson “La Maravilla” Velez has compiled a collection of titles in his professional career, including the WBC USNBC, WBO Latino and WBC Silver belts. He nearly took his first world title in November 2014 before a controversial draw verdict was rendered in his IBF Featherweight World Championship fight with Evgeny Gradovich. Determined to get another world title shot, Velez needs a win against Rios to get there.

Santa Ana, California’s Ronny Rios was sailing to the top of the division before an upset loss to the number one contender for the WBC Featherweight title Robinson “Robin Hood” Castellanos in October of 2014, but with a comeback win over Sergio “El Frio” Frias and the determination and heart of a champion, the talented 25-year-old has his sights set on glory once more. With a victory over Velez, he will be back on the road to a world title fight once more.
 
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