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:dahell:breh my point was jr quit with not a legit reason and ortiz did

with lucas..he blamed everything on the eye which is unfortunate and it puts him in the category of now having to really prove himself all over again

with jr he compounded what he did with getting on the mic and talking all kinds of crazy and fukkery which is why the quitter label is sticking

another example....victor ortiz quit the fight with maidana because he thought the fight was getting too much for him and he didnt deserve it..in his words...that didnt go over so well

qutting in boxing is a slippery slope because when it happens....basically something bad has to happen to a fighter if they decide to quit a fight themselves in order to justify without consequences

the best example of that is benn-mcclellan..gerald took a knee, got counted out, got up and walked to his corner..seemingly quit to everyone and shortly slipped to the canvas into a coma
 

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:dahell:breh my point was jr quit with not a legit reason and ortiz did


You're picking N choosing whats a "legit" reason is the problem :russ:

Jccjr said his leg was fukked after the knockdown...now let's look at the KD N see his legs lock the fukk up
fonfara_chavez.gif


Seems to me like its 100% possible his leg was not feeling right after that happened
:ohhh:

The Ring says "naaaaaah we don't believe you Chavez Jr :francis:" "quitter"

Matthysse said his eye popped...then changed it N said he went blind...all while saying it wasn't a even a hard punch...then blaming the headbutt in the 7th N him being frustrated

The Ring says : "Lucas Matthysse has a family :mjcry:, he has a legit reason :sadcam:"




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You're picking N choosing whats a "legit" reason is the problem :russ:

Jccjr said his leg was fukked after the knockdown...now let's look at the KD N see his legs lock the fukk up
fonfara_chavez.gif


Seems to me like its 100% possible his leg was not feeling right after that happened
:ohhh:

The Ring says "naaaaaah we don't believe you Chavez Jr :francis:" "quitter"

Matthysse said his eye popped...then changed it N said he went blind...all while saying it wasn't a even a hard punch...then blaming the headbutt in the 7th N him being frustrated

The Ring says : "Lucas Matthysse has a family :mjcry:, he has a legit reason :sadcam:"




:martin:

it just seems like you have a personal opinion on lucas quiting, and thats all it is.
 

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with lucas..he blamed everything on the eye which is unfortunate and it puts him in the category of now having to really prove himself all over again

with jr he compounded what he did with getting on the mic and talking all kinds of crazy and fukkery which is why the quitter label is sticking

another example....victor ortiz quit the fight with maidana because he thought the fight was getting too much for him and he didnt deserve it..in his words...that didnt go over so well

qutting in boxing is a slippery slope because when it happens....basically something bad has to happen to a fighter if they decide to quit a fight themselves in order to justify without consequences

the best example of that is benn-mcclellan..gerald took a knee, got counted out, got up and walked to his corner..seemingly quit to everyone and shortly slipped to the canvas into a coma

Matthysse went from his eye popping... to being blind... to the headbutt in the 7th to being frustrated as reasons for his quit job

Only difference...There was no Jim gray asking him 1000 questions letting him hang himself
 

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Matthysse went from his eye popping... to being blind... to the headbutt in the 7th to being frustrated as reasons for his quit job

Only difference...There was no Jim gray asking him 1000 questions letting him hang himself
No stanning, but I think the headbutt hurt Mattyhsse WAY more than anything else and is a legit reason why turned into John Molina after that round. He had nothing left, so him staying down was just him recognizing he had nothing left.

If you rewatch it, he had Postol lined up for the fatality and was stunned immediately after the headbutt and flurry. It looked like when you used the headbutt button in Fight Night to open the guy up for the big combos.

That aside, I don't like to accuse ANY pro boxers, who are tougher than any of us can ever imagine, of being quitters, especially in 2015. These guys know their bodies, know the risks, and know when its not worth risking their brains and bodies for props from nerd sportswriters and couch potato boxing stans. That won't help Provo in 10 years when he's walking around looking like Eric Stoltz in Mask.
 

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No stanning, but I think the headbutt hurt Mattyhsse WAY more than anything else and is a legit reason why turned into John Molina after that round. He had nothing left, so him staying down was just him recognizing he had nothing left.

If you rewatch it, he had Postol lined up for the fatality and was stunned immediately after the headbutt and flurry. It looked like when you used the headbutt button in Fight Night to open the guy up for the big combos.

That aside, I don't like to accuse ANY pro boxers, who are tougher than any of us can ever imagine, of being quitters, especially in 2015. These guys know their bodies, know the risks, and know when its not worth risking their brains and bodies for props from nerd sportswriters and couch potato boxing stans. That won't help Provo in 10 years when he's walking around looking like Eric Stoltz in Mask.
Yeah Yeah yeah... That's all fine and dandy but everybody shyted on Ortiz. Let's not make excuses for his ass.
 

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No stanning, but I think the headbutt hurt Mattyhsse WAY more than anything else and is a legit reason why turned into John Molina after that round. He had nothing left, so him staying down was just him recognizing he had nothing left.

If you rewatch it, he had Postol lined up for the fatality and was stunned immediately after the headbutt and flurry. It looked like when you used the headbutt button in Fight Night to open the guy up for the big combos.

That aside, I don't like to accuse ANY pro boxers, who are tougher than any of us can ever imagine, of being quitters, especially in 2015. These guys know their bodies, know the risks, and know when its not worth risking their brains and bodies for props from nerd sportswriters and couch potato boxing stans. That won't help Provo in 10 years when he's walking around looking like Eric Stoltz in Mask.

I have no doubt the Headbutt saved Postol...Matthysse ate the Headbutt winced, put his hands up N layed on the ropes while postol punched until the ref stepped in N signaled headbutt

If a fighter quits he quits :yeshrug:...my issue is nikkas LOVE to throw shade until it happens to a fighter they Stan...then the bu bu bu buts come out N there's a good reason N its a different situation then others :mjlol:
 

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I have no doubt the Headbutt saved Postol...Matthysse ate the Headbutt winced, put his hands up N layed on the ropes while postol punched until the ref stepped in N signaled headbutt

If a fighter quits he quits :yeshrug:...my issue is nikkas LOVE to throw shade until it happens to a fighter they Stan...then the bu bu bu buts come out N there's a good reason N its a different situation then others :mjlol:
Like they don't call Cotto Kneeguel :mjlol:
 
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