Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
I think a lot of Dan's is that he is a fan like us as well. He loves boxing and isn't afraid to say it. He collects cards, fight posters, tickets, and stuff from all the fights he goes to. He DVR's all the fights on TV and transfers them to DVD's.
Dude has been in the game a long time, but a big part of him is he is a fan like us and gets access to everything inside. It is why he says he loves his job and will never leave...also makes it hard to provide objective distance sometimes.
He said he got invited to watch fights at Arum's place with Kovalev and Lomachenko. It was "business", but how can you not feel some way about that when you are also a fan.
It isn't just him though. A lot of these guys love the perks that come from covering boxing. I remember seeing Doug Fischer on a lunch meeting with GGG and dude seemed like a kid having fun.
I guess we are all human and it would be hard to separate work on from personal feelings when you are constantly around the people who you are fans of.
what a random example lol. but to answer your question..yesDid you feel the same for Carl Froch vs Arthur Abraham 2 which was for the WBC Super Middleweight Championship even though both of them lost, at Super Middleweight, in their previous fights?
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
The other thing I was thinking about, wondering if anyone had thoughts on it.
I was thinking a lot of these boxing writers seem like fans of the sport who also write. Also have relationships with fighters, promoters, and TV. Definitely more of a regular person covering a sport they love feel.
These guys you see out covering football and basketball feel like they would sell their family down the river to break a scoop. Like they have relationships within the industry just to further their own success. Completely different vibe to me.
Edit: Maybe it is because the local writers for football and basketball are more relationship based (I see that with our local sports writers), but the national guys are brutal. Boxing doesn't really have a local presence, so the national guys still have that more "hometown" feel.
I was thinking a lot of these boxing writers seem like fans of the sport who also write. Also have relationships with fighters, promoters, and TV. Definitely more of a regular person covering a sport they love feel.
These guys you see out covering football and basketball feel like they would sell their family down the river to break a scoop. Like they have relationships within the industry just to further their own success. Completely different vibe to me.
Edit: Maybe it is because the local writers for football and basketball are more relationship based (I see that with our local sports writers), but the national guys are brutal. Boxing doesn't really have a local presence, so the national guys still have that more "hometown" feel.
Guess who didn't have a problem with it....Fat Dan.
prolly because it was meant for that title to be kept in the tournament until it was over by the WBA
Completely untrue, the biggest writers for niche sports are just guys who happened to get lucky and become "the man" for one sport when they were just another nameless face doing basketball or something.. (in America at least)
Only VERY recently are actual fans of a sport becoming actual respected journalist CONTRIBUTORS (not the main person) for that same sport (tennis/soccer SI for example and even still they arent "the face"...)
But Im only talking about the monoliths (basically just ESPN and SI, lol)... but bets are off when websites are concerned
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Froch and Abraham were both coming off losses.
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A loss is a loss breh right?. Their next fights shouldn't have been for the belt either then, especially since Dirrell beat Abraham & Mikkel Kessler BEAT Froch for the WBC Championship (just like Vargas beat Khabib for the WBA Championship), and Froch in his very next fight is fighting for the belt.....just like Khabib is doing
There was no reason or backlash for them fighting for the WBC Super Middleweight Championship & the belt did not have to be on the line. It could have been a standard non-title fight just like others were in the same Super Six Tournament.
You're absolutely right breh... If you feel so strongly about it why are you defending the AB/Khabib fight so heavy? you bringing up all these other examples onlmy proves its bs.
You think Imam gets the shot before Crawford?
Because I have no problem with a Top 5 guy fighting for a belt against another Top 5 guy.
It makes 0 sense for anyone to be upset, as Fat Dan has portrayed himself to be, and then say "it's a good matchup" out the other side of his neck
WBA Super Championship is the #2 ranked opponent vs the #5 ranked opponent...who also just so happens to be a good fighter and was the WBA Regular Champion before losing a close decision in his last fight. It's a good fight.
nikkas acting like AB is fighting the #13th ranked opponent for the Belt or something
Of course.
In the WBC rankings: Matthysse is #1, Postol is #2, Imam is #3. Regardless of the outcome on October 3rd, Imam is moved up to #1 contender and mandatory for whoever wins. Crawford is not ranked by WBC (due to being WBO Champion) and I personally think Matthysse/GB would rather fight a green Imam than a prime Crawford at this time.
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
For clarification I am not saying they were fans and then became writers. I am saying as writers they appear to embrace their fandom more.
Heck, I believe Dan's story was that he enjoyed boxing, but was not a big fan. He was covering boxing for USA today as one of his first journalism jobs. During a fight blood flew from a fighter after being punched and landed on him and he credits that as the moment he knew he was a boxing fan.
Just saying boxing does have an odd dynamic where a lot of the guys who are the known journalists, do seem to show their fandom a bit more than is prevalent elsewhere.
Maybe I am misreading how I interpret it.
For clarification I am not saying they were fans and then became writers. I am saying as writers they appear to embrace their fandom more.
Heck, I believe Dan's story was that he enjoyed boxing, but was not a big fan. He was covering boxing for USA today as one of his first journalism jobs. During a fight blood flew from a fighter after being punched and landed on him and he credits that as the moment he knew he was a boxing fan.
Just saying boxing does have an odd dynamic where a lot of the guys who are the known journalists, do seem to show their fandom a bit more than is prevalent elsewhere.
Maybe I am misreading how I interpret it.
I think the worst case is easily Doug Fischer and Steve Kim.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Crawford dont have to be ranked.. hes WBO champ so he's automatically recognized as a champion and ranked higher..Because I have no problem with a Top 5 guy fighting for a belt against another Top 5 guy.
It makes 0 sense for anyone to be upset, as Fat Dan has portrayed himself to be, and then say "it's a good matchup" out the other side of his neck
WBA Super Championship is the #2 ranked opponent vs the #5 ranked opponent...who also just so happens to be a good fighter and was the WBA Regular Champion before losing a close decision in his last fight. It's a good fight.
nikkas acting like AB is fighting the #13th ranked opponent for the Belt or something
Of course.
In the WBC rankings: Matthysse is #1, Postol is #2, Imam is #3. Regardless of the outcome on October 3rd, Imam is moved up to #1 contender and mandatory for whoever wins. Crawford is not ranked by WBC (due to being WBO Champion) and I personally think Matthysse/GB would rather fight a green Imam than a prime Crawford at this time.
I think a WBC WBO unification will take place first
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krackdagawd
Inspire.
yeah i dont mind the fight but having a belt on the line for this is a no no to me; just like when swift/peterson was made which i was cool with but no belts plus catchweight which made me give it theto the "give 2 shyts" section of the bushes
Yes because some fraudulent alphabet that's just going to get them for fee money is what makes all the difference in the world
If Postol wins, yes...I can see Postol vs Crawford in unification bout, because it's TR in-house fighters.
If Matthysse wins, no...I cant see it happening before Matthysse vs Imam or even Matthysse vs Cuenca.
Crawford is in his prime right now. Why would DLH risk Matthysse losing in his 1st defense of the belt to a TR fighter who's much more seasoned than the young/green prospect who's the mandatory or take the prime TR fighter instead of trying to take an easier fight against Cuenca in a unification?
Yes because some fraudulent alphabet that's just going to get them for fee money is what makes all the difference in the world
if you haven't defended your belts in a year and you already had a non title catchweight tuneup (the worst of haymon's nonsense) you put them on the line or get stripped...also you know how i feel about undisciplined shyt too..even more strongly than the belts..2 of the champions at 140 fighting a catchweight