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I love Tyson too that nikka was super hero status to me as a kid but we gotta be real here dude that Kronk heavyweight style would have given him issues at ANY point in his career.
I agree, I love Tyson too but there were styles u can use agaisnt him that can limit him into a loss... also once u hit mike he became a different fighter in there.

With that being said I say he can beat any heavywieght cuz of gis punching power but when u just got a knockout chance I always give u a low chance of winning.
 

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How do we decide if a division is weak or not?
 

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Name recognition:jbhmm:


That's what it seems like:mjpls:


How can one say Heavyweight, Middleweight, Welterweight are strong or weak....when there's only 1 guy that's dominating everyone and the rest of the RING Top 10 aren't fighting each other?:jbhmm:
 

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That's what it seems like:mjpls:


How can one say Heavyweight, Middleweight, Welterweight are strong or weak....when there's only 1 guy that's dominating everyone and the rest of the RING Top 10 aren't fighting each other?:jbhmm:

at least may beat 2 hof in jmm/pac:manny:

but yeah u right ...thats why ali still praised cause hard comp means ur gonna have some losses.:manny:
 

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Diaz said in this interview Bradley was tiring himself out, doing too much, doing shyt that had a negative effect on his boxing....but Diaz couldn't get Bradley to stop cuz if he did N Tim struggled he would blame it on Diaz making him stop the extra work
Heard the whole interview. Still ain't tryin to get with all of that. BATB and Joe'll both acting like hoes
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at least may beat 2 hof in jmm/pac:manny:
but yeah u right ...thats why ali still praised cause hard comp means ur gonna have some losses.:manny:


They were already HOFers before taking their 1st fights at Welterweight too though. Makes it a little different.


My thing is, I agree with @GzUpHoEzDwN about Wlad and the Heavyweight division, because it can be said for almost every single weight class today except Featherweight and below.


How can we say a division is weak or strong, when we aren't getting the matchups to determine that, and the Top guy is so dominant, he's beating everyone he faces. Is it really the division is "weak" or is it the best guy is too good? Until we get the #1, #2, #3, #4, and #5 guy to start facing the #6, #7, #8, #9, #10 guy in like they did up until like the mid 2000's:yeshrug:
 

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Arum: Garcia Got Gifts, Not Competitive For Pacquiao

Posted by: Edward Chaykovsky on 9/28/2015 .



By Edward Chaykovsky

Top Rank CEO Bob Arum explained that he won't consider Danny Garcia as a possible option for Manny Pacquiao's next return - because he says the Philadelphia fighter would be battered in a one-sided bout by the former eight division world champion.

Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, would love to get Garcia in the ring for his fighter. Arum won't even list him as an option.


At the moment, Pacquiao's options are Amir Khan, Lucas Matthysse, Kell Brook and Terence Crawford. Pacquiao is coming back in late February or early April.

Arum feels Garcia (31-0, 18KOs) was very fortunate to win several decisions, including the bout with Maurcio Herrera last year in Puerto Rico, and has no business being in a headliner against Pacquiao right now.

Garcia moved up to welterweight last month and stopped Paulie Malignaggi.

"I don't think Danny Garcia is truly a competitive fight with Manny. Garcia had a couple of gift decisions that he didn't deserve, like Herrera and the other fight [with Lamont Peterson]. And I'm not really interested in Garcia," Arum told Fight Hub.


Arum: Garcia Got Gifts, Not Competitive For Pacquiao







Now, as much as it would be funny to troll about this, Arum is wrong:ufdup:


Danny Garcia isn't an option because he "had a couple of gift decisions that he didn't deserve" and he brings up Herrera & Peterson. Ok. But the options you WILL consider for Pacquiao include 2 guys Garcia beat clearly (Khan & Matthysse) and also have multiple other losses, besides to Garcia, on their records. One guy who hasn't fought anyone besides Shawn Porter and won a close decision over...not a dominant performance. And then we have a 4th guy who hasn't faced an elite fighter above 135 yet.


If Arum is doesn't want to put Pacquiao in the ring with Swift...he needs better excuses. Those excuses were weak as hell:camby:.
 
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wlad could his own against most top heavy weights of all time
a lot his opposition is weak, but his dominance can't be ignored
i think tyson would not knock him but i can't say it would be easy:francis:
 

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Arum: Garcia Got Gifts, Not Competitive For Pacquiao

Posted by: Edward Chaykovsky on 9/28/2015 .



By Edward Chaykovsky

Top Rank CEO Bob Arum explained that he won't consider Danny Garcia as a possible option for Manny Pacquiao's next return - because he says the Philadelphia fighter would be battered in a one-sided bout by the former eight division world champion.

Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, would love to get Garcia in the ring for his fighter. Arum won't even list him as an option.

At the moment, Pacquiao's options are Amir Khan, Lucas Matthysse, Kell Brook and Terence Crawford. Pacquiao is coming back in late February or early April.

Arum feels Garcia (31-0, 18KOs) was very fortunate to win several decisions, including the bout with Maurcio Herrera last year in Puerto Rico, and has no business being in a headliner against Pacquiao right now.

Garcia moved up to welterweight last month and stopped Paulie Malignaggi.

"I don't think Danny Garcia is truly a competitive fight with Manny. Garcia had a couple of gift decisions that he didn't deserve, like Herrera and the other fight [with Lamont Peterson]. And I'm not really interested in Garcia," Arum told Fight Hub.


Arum: Garcia Got Gifts, Not Competitive For Pacquiao







Now, as much as it would be funny to troll about this, Arum is wrong:ufdup:


Danny Garcia isn't an option because he "had a couple of gift decisions that he didn't deserve" and he brings up Herrera & Peterson. Ok. But the options you WILL consider for Pacquiao include 2 guys Garcia beat clearly (Khan & Matthysse) and also have multiple other losses, besides to Garcia, on their records. One guy who hasn't fought anyone besides Shawn Porter and won a close decision over...not a dominant performance. And then we have a 4th guy who hasn't faced an elite fighter above 135 yet.


If Arum is doesn't want to put Pacquiao in the ring with Swift...he needs better excuses. Those excuses were weak as hell:camby:.
garcia will beat pacquaio if they fight
 

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wlad could his own against most top heavy weights of all time
a lot his opposition is weak, but his dominance can't be ignored
i think tyson would not knock him but i can't say it would be easy:francis:

Klitschko in the early 90's would be Henry Akinwande status. :sas2:
 
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