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Big Boss said:
this my first time seeing this:ehh:



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Watching this now:ehh:

At 2:35 Zab says, "I think that the only reason this fight is even made, that we're even in there April 8th, is because Floyd Mayweather seen an opportunity and he thought I was very vulnerable from the last loss with Baldomir. He sat there with him and his friends, and watched the fight and was like 'you know what...I can beat him now'. I mean this is what Mayweather does. He goes in there and fights fighters when they're finished":dead:

That's crazy, because Zab was already saying this back in 2006....before Floyd was even "Money":banderas:


Just had to post that....back to watching I go.
 
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Bob Arum saying Pretty Boy Floyd is the greatest fighter he's seen since Ali....better than Sugar Ray Leonard, Robert Duran, Marvelous Marvin Hagler, and Thomas Hearns:banderas:
 
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Newzz said:
Watching this now:ehh:

At 2:35 Zab says, "I think that the only reason this fight is even made, that we're even in there April 8th, is because Floyd Mayweather seen an opportunity and he thought I was very vulnerable from the last loss with Baldomir. He sat there with him and his friends, and watched the fight and was like 'you know what...I can beat him now'. I mean this is what Mayweather does. He goes in there and fights fighters when they're finished":dead:

That's crazy, because Zab was already saying this back in 2006....before Floyd was even "Money":banderas:


Just had to post that....back to watching I go.
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I thought they signed a contract to fight each other but judah went out and lost to baldomir
 
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GREENandYELLOW said:
Good inside info on Al Haymon:
http://ucnlive.com/working-haymon/

“People ask me that a lot of times and I’m being as honest as I can be; Al Haymon is the kind of guy that will ask you who you want, who you can beat and he’ll give you the option. So when you see guys who don’t fight tough, it’s not him telling them not to fight tough; it’s their guys and their teams saying, ‘We don’t want to fight tough’ and, of course, he’s going to accommodate you because that’s his job to accommodate you,” said Edwards on the afternoon on Dec. 4 at the Undisputed Gym in San Carlos, California.

“So when people say that, I always say, ‘If Al Haymon protects all of his guys, then how come Julian Williams fights tough? How come Jermain Taylor fought Bernard [Hopkins] twice, Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma, Cory Spinks, Kelly Pavlik twice? How come Rico Ramos fights tough? It’s the guys that don’t want to fight – it’s not Al Haymon saying, ‘Oh, my God, please don’t fight that killer over there,’ because he’ll ask me, ‘Do you think Julian can beat that guy?’ and I’ll say, ‘Yeah,’ and he’ll say, ‘Well, if you think [Williams] can beat him, you know better than anybody else. I’ll put [Julian] in there with [a particular opponent] but if you don’t think you can beat him, we won’t put him in there with him.’ So he gives you the choice.

“So when you see a guy who’s missing a lot of opponents and always fighting a turkey, it’s not Al Haymon telling them to fight the turkey. It’s those guys that don’t want to fight.”

Personally I think Haymon held back fights in 2014 to try and keep his stable of fighters strong with wins for his new NBC deal in 2015.

And a copy of a Haymon contract:
http://ucnlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/AdvisoryAgreementreHaymonSportsLLC121114.pdf

This is what one boxing insider had to say about it:

“He is refining his agreements as he moves forward. The question that comes to mind is: How could Al possibly breach this contract? The only thing he is obligated to do is give the fighter his advice. He is not even required to get them a fight. And to the extent that he has promised to publicize their careers (which is impossible to quantify), the fighter must reimburse his expenses!!! Don King had absolutely nothing on this guy! At least Don used to promise them fights. If he breached and they had a good lawyer, his fighters could get out of their deals. There is no way out of this contract that I can see, other than to bring a Muhammad Ali Act violation suit based on the premise that he is actually doing the job of promoter while masquerading as an ‘adviser.’

If a fighter who already has a manager signs this, by the way, he will be giving up a fee to the manager plus 15% before paying for training expenses and paying a trainer. Don King would blush.”
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Where is @TheodoreBrehIII of Breh and Associates LLC to make sense of all this :lupe:
 
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:mjcry: at Floyd saying at one point he was fighting all for the money, but now it's about fighting for the love and going down in history with Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson by continuing to get wins and beating the best guys out there.

That was my PBF before he went back to chasing the money:to:
 
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GREENandYELLOW said:
Good inside info on Al Haymon:
http://ucnlive.com/working-haymon/

“People ask me that a lot of times and I’m being as honest as I can be; Al Haymon is the kind of guy that will ask you who you want, who you can beat and he’ll give you the option. So when you see guys who don’t fight tough, it’s not him telling them not to fight tough; it’s their guys and their teams saying, ‘We don’t want to fight tough’ and, of course, he’s going to accommodate you because that’s his job to accommodate you,” said Edwards on the afternoon on Dec. 4 at the Undisputed Gym in San Carlos, California.

“So when people say that, I always say, ‘If Al Haymon protects all of his guys, then how come Julian Williams fights tough? How come Jermain Taylor fought Bernard [Hopkins] twice, Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma, Cory Spinks, Kelly Pavlik twice? How come Rico Ramos fights tough? It’s the guys that don’t want to fight – it’s not Al Haymon saying, ‘Oh, my God, please don’t fight that killer over there,’ because he’ll ask me, ‘Do you think Julian can beat that guy?’ and I’ll say, ‘Yeah,’ and he’ll say, ‘Well, if you think [Williams] can beat him, you know better than anybody else. I’ll put [Julian] in there with [a particular opponent] but if you don’t think you can beat him, we won’t put him in there with him.’ So he gives you the choice.

“So when you see a guy who’s missing a lot of opponents and always fighting a turkey, it’s not Al Haymon telling them to fight the turkey. It’s those guys that don’t want to fight.”

Personally I think Haymon held back fights in 2014 to try and keep his stable of fighters strong with wins for his new NBC deal in 2015.

And a copy of a Haymon contract:
http://ucnlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/AdvisoryAgreementreHaymonSportsLLC121114.pdf

This is what one boxing insider had to say about it:

“He is refining his agreements as he moves forward. The question that comes to mind is: How could Al possibly breach this contract? The only thing he is obligated to do is give the fighter his advice. He is not even required to get them a fight. And to the extent that he has promised to publicize their careers (which is impossible to quantify), the fighter must reimburse his expenses!!! Don King had absolutely nothing on this guy! At least Don used to promise them fights. If he breached and they had a good lawyer, his fighters could get out of their deals. There is no way out of this contract that I can see, other than to bring a Muhammad Ali Act violation suit based on the premise that he is actually doing the job of promoter while masquerading as an ‘adviser.’

If a fighter who already has a manager signs this, by the way, he will be giving up a fee to the manager plus 15% before paying for training expenses and paying a trainer. Don King would blush.”
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:patrice: so alot of these dudes are just bytches and not forced by haymon..
 
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MIAlien said:
If I'm wrong, I'll take whatever ban you want. I'm that sure. And if there was a link you wouldn't need my post so I wouldn't bother.

And my source is 100%. I had this info a while ago. I just waited for full confirmation. It's going to be announced fight week for their January card.

I just wanted to give my coli brehs the good news a few weeks in advance.
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1 week. If nothing is confirmed by 1/9/15..........
 
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