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:dahell: Kind of beef could they have??
So now that dude's dead we find out he wasn't trying to iron out any issues with SOG. SMMFH, and Ward will be inactive this year bc of it

But, when me and @krackdagawd was trying to tell our fellow brehs on here that...they wasnt trying to listen:snoop:


Wanted to blame SOG for him not fighting, when MANY people have said (including SOG himself) that Goosen wasnt even offering him fights anymore and would kill off all offers from other promoters without even bringing the potential opponents offer to the table.



Im glad Steve Kim exposed this, because it was definitely some bullshyt. It's supposed to ALWAYS be business and never personal. Goosen had no plans to ever get Ward another fight or settle the disputes with him:wow:
 

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http://www.boxingscene.com/ward-goossen-not-offered-fight-december--77496

Ward: Goossen Has Not Offered Fight Since December
Posted by: Luis Sandoval on 5/6/2014


By Luis Sandoval

Andre Ward’s promotional struggles continue as the undefeated Super Middleweight is trying to break free from current promoter Goossen Tutor who he’s been with since his professional debut. Ward has a pending lawsuit against Goossen Tutor that was filed in California Superior court. An arbitration hearing held by the California State Athletic Commission this past Thursday found Ward’s promotional contract with Goossen to be valid until November 8, 2016 but Ward is still pursuing his court case.

Despite the lawsuit, Ward informs that he is still free to make fights and work with his promoter but the problem is he has not received an offer since December of last year. Five months later Ward is on the sidelines and frustrated with his current situation.

“I want to be in the ring more than anybody else wants me in the ring. This is literally how I feed my family. I just turned 30 years old. I’m entering the prime of my career. This isn’t a lawsuit where the judge has put a mandate or stipulation where I can’t fight. That’s not the case. There was a lawsuit filed in Superior Court and then an email that followed that said hey, let’s continue to do this mutually. Let’s work together, it was agreed, so let’s do it. And there’s been a multitude of emails going back and forth, a lot of games being played but the reality of the situation is not one offer [has been made],” Ward would tell BoxingScene and other reporters.

Ward was last seen in the ring in November when he defeated Edwin Rodriguez and has not been able to secure a follow up fight. This inactivity is on the heels of him being out a year due to a shoulder injury which means he’s only fought twice in almost 2 and half years.

Andre was asked if Goossen has tried to at least pursue fights for him since his last bout and while Ward says some names were mentioned, Goossen never delivered a fight.

“[Dan Goossen] pursued some fights, but he hasn’t been able [to deliver]. He tried to dig up Mikkel Kessler in Denmark. We said okay, make us an offer. He came back [and said] the offer is not satisfactory, I can’t offer you this. I’m going to pursue this fight in the states. Got another offer from the network and its way too low. He killed it. [He said] we can’t do this but I’ll continue to look. We waited, we waited, we waited,” said Ward.

“We got another email with 4 names on it: Sakio Bika, Anthony Dirrell, James DeGale and the Russian [who] I can’t even begin to pronounce his name but he’s the guy who is the regular champion for the WBA. And he said if these names are okay, we’ll get a deal done immediately. [We said] make us an offer, we want to fight, we want to get back in there. And as you guys know, those fights aren’t steps forward, they’re steps backwards. But still, make us an offer. Nothing. There hasn’t been one offer since December. That’s the reality of the situation”.

Ward does find solace in the fact that he’s not the first fighter to go through a similar situation as Floyd Mayweather and Bernard Hopkins at one point looked to break free from their promoters and were successful. In fact, Hopkins’ lawsuit was also filed against Ward’s current promoter Dan Goossen.

Both Hopkins and Mayweather offered Ward advice and support when they saw him in Las Vegas, NV this past Saturday which Ward said he truly appreciated. Ward is hopeful a deal for a fight can be reached soon as he does not want to sit out the rest of this year especially considering both sides agreed to still work together during the lawsuit.

“Again it’s tough because we have a litigation right now but we’re supposed to be fighting. It’s kind of tough. It’s not like we’re on the sidelines until this lawsuit is [over]. No, we’re supposed to be fighting”.


:rip: Dan Goosen, but he was literally gonna ruin Andre Ward's career because it became way too personal for him, instead of it being a business dispute with Ward that could've easily been resolved:camby:
 

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But, when me and @krackdagawd was trying to tell our fellow brehs on here that...they wasnt trying to listen:snoop:


Wanted to blame SOG for him not fighting, when MANY people have said (including SOG himself) that Goosen wasnt even offering him fights anymore and would kill off all offers from other promoters without even bringing the potential opponents offer to the table.



Im glad Steve Kim exposed this, because it was definitely some bullshyt. It's supposed to ALWAYS be business and never personal. Goosen had no plans to ever get Ward another fight or settle the disputes with him:wow:
That shyt is insane
Robbed us of 2 prime years of SOG
 

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Nope:ufdup:


The WBA wont strip him, because he's not been offered a mandatory opponent nor has he refused to negotiate with his mandatory....which there currently ISNT a mandatory challenger:sas1:


Plus they moved SOG to "Super" Champion, which ironically, help us out:sas2:


So that alone destroys your entire plan and SOG will STILL remain #2P4P:ohlawd:


SOG will STILL remain undefeated:lawd:


SOG will STILL remain the Boogeyman of the 160-175 weight divisions:ahh:


SOGGang will STILL remain stunting on you haters:smugbiden:




















And there will be STILL nothing you can do about it:umad:



#SOGGang


:blessed:

Keep forgetting how much of a joke WBA is...

Look breh... the man only fought 2 times since 2011.. that mothafukka is not going to stay at #2 for much longer... As soon as ring Vacates that strap(which they will do soon) its a wrap....

Oh and dont let Dirrel and Froch fight each other for that unification. It will definitely be a wrap for the b*stard son of Goosen (rip)
 

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Keep forgetting how much of a joke WBA is...

Look breh... the man only fought 2 times since 2011.. that mothafukka is not going to stay at #2 for much longer... As soon as ring Vacates that strap(which they will do soon) its a wrap....

Oh and dont let Dirrel and Froch fight each other for that unification. It will definitely be a wrap for the b*stard son of Goosen (rip)

:mjlol:


And STILL #2 P4P....Andre "Son Of God" Ward:blessed:
 

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:dahell: Kind of beef could they have??
So now that dude's dead we find out he wasn't trying to iron out any issues with SOG. SMMFH, and Ward will be inactive this year bc of it
I think "settle" means settle out of court
Ward called him a liar and thief, can't be mad at him for holding a grudge:yeshrug:
Plus wars just kept coming with the lawsuits even after losing repeatidily
After a while, it becomes a principle thing
 

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And yall kept asking WHY Ward wasnt fighting:wow:


His Promoter made it a "beef" between the 2 and apparently didnt abide by the saying, "it's only business...never personal":snoop:



So ward isn't suing dan goossen the person, he's suing the promotional company?
 

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Dude really believes that Manny will take SOG spot when he beats Zack Ryder in Nov :mjlol:

The longer Ward is #2 on the list the worse it is on the credibility of RINGs p4p list. The nikka only fought twice since 2011 and you clowns like to rub in that he's ranked #2 and yall know its bullshyt... shyt is a big joke at this point
 

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The longer Ward is #2 on the list the worse it is on the credibility of RINGs p4p list. The nikka only fought twice since 2011 and you clowns like to rub in that he's ranked #2 and yall know its bullshyt... shyt is a big joke at this point


"Bu-bu-but why Ward is still #2 Pound 4 Pound?:to: Why wont RING remove him already?":mjcry:


:umad:


#SOGGang
 

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We could take SOG off tomorrow Manny still won't be #2 :manny:

I'd put Rigo and Wlad ahead of him all day, I can't put him ahead of those guys when :deadmanny: happened followed by him dragging up three 140lbers to 147 in a row. :shaq2:

So the fukk what Rigo beat Donaire 2 years ago.. that automatically qualifies him to be top 3? Over Manny?? :mjlol: you sound goofy as shyt
 

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So the fukk what Rigo beat Donaire 2 years ago.. that automatically qualifies him to be top 3? Over Manny?? :mjlol: you sound goofy as shyt


The Donaire win wasn't two years ago and he has outclassed everyone he has fought and has Santa Cruz shook.

What is Manny's record in his last 4 fights? Is that the record of a #2 p4p fighter? :sas1:

Manny fights at welter when was the last time he fought someone who actually campaigned at that weight before fighting him? A lot longer than Rigo's win over Donaire
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The Donaire win wasn't two years ago and he has outclassed everyone he has fought and has Santa Cruz shook.

What is Manny's record in his last 4 fights? Is that the record of a #2 p4p fighter? :sas1:

Manny fights at welter when was the last time he fought someone who actually campaigned at that weight before fighting him? A lot longer than Rigo's win over Donaire
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He beat Donaire and a bunch of cans... Pacs last 4 fights matters not... He beat the #3 p4p his last fight...

Also the last time Pac fought someone who contested at WW was this year against Bradley, who fought 5 times at WW before evee fighting Pac.. #facts
 
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