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[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Believe what you wanna believe breh.... I believe he turned down the extension because he wanted no parts of GGG. No parts of Sergio.. No parts of Ward... why is it so farfetched that your boy is just a bytch ass nikka.. I could be right you know, I usually am right about these things

Btw in the counter offer, he did offer that the ppv revenue would kick in after a few hundred thousand buys..

Not one of those fighters are with Top Rank though so how would not signing with TR affect him fighting any of those names?

 

[Newzz]

Exactly you know damn well 2 million no ppv vs GGG is a huge ripoff

Jcc jr is the cash cow N Arum wants to offer 2 million no PPV N nikkas justify it cuz they dislike Chavez

May 8, 2014

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. turned down what Top Rank Promotions CEO Bob Arum called "a crazy, unbelievable offer" to face WBA middleweight titleholder Gennady Golovkin in a non-title, 168-pound bout, one inclusive of two fights within the terms of the existing contract, the 82-year-old promoter told RingTV.com.

After the 28-year-old Chavez (48-1-1, 32 knockouts) declined to sign the agreement, Arum said Top Rank put a single-bout offer on the table that he characterized as "still better than what Golovkin accepted for the fight."

The fight was being targeted for HBO Pay-Per-View on July 19.

"There is no update but the point is that I thought that we made a crazy, unbelievable offer to Chavez for the Golovkin fight. It called for the Golovkin fight to pay him a minimum $7 million, and if he lost that fight, we guaranteed him another fight for $5 million. Now if he beat Golovkin, then we would pay him a minimum for his next fight of $10 million," said Arum, whose Top Rank contract runs through October 2015 with Chavez.

"So we would…do these two fights, and the minimum he would make is $12 million, and if he was successful, $17 million plus. He turned that offer down. So we offered him a one-fight offer at considerably less money but still better than what Golovkin accepted for the fight and he turned that down. So obviously, he doesn't want the fight and we go on with our business."

Chavez's manager, Billy Keane could not be reached for an immediate comment. But Keane told Yahoo!Sports that Top Rank's contract for the pay-per-view bout against Golovkin (29-0, 26 KOs) is for 70 percent less money than Chavez would have been offered if he signed the two-fight extension.

Keane also said that under terms of the new deal, Chavez would not get a share of pay-per-view revenues until after Top Rank had made "millions upon millions of dollars."

"The so-called upside on the pay-per-view did not even kick in until Top Rank made multiple millions of dollars," said Keane, according to ESPN.com. "More than Chavez and likely more than both fighters combined. This is why the fight is no longer happening. It's completely disturbing and completely unfair how these negotiations were."

Arum defended the terms to RingTV.com.

"I know that we presented this to his father and he thought that it was an amazing offer and tried to persuade Julio Jr. to accept," said Arum, "but Julio Jr. didn't accept it. The big problem is that he is apparently being advised by Billy Keane, who has no experience in any of this."

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/...ulio-cesar-chavez-jr-gennady-golovkin-fallout

The 2 million that was offered to JCC Jr for just the 1 fight, is MORE than what GGG was getting for the fight breh

His contract runs until October 2015. If he would've accepted the fight (as Arum presented the offer), he would have fought GGG in July 2014 and gotten 6.6 mill vs GGG and his next fight he would've received 5 million if he lost to GGG and 10 million if he beat GGG as his minimum for his next fight

Doesnt really sound like an extension to me, considering that he's already under contract for the next 15 months (going by the date of the article) and 15 months is enough time for at LEAST 2 fights if JCC Jr fought every 6 months.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

The 2 million that was offered to JCC Jr for just the 1 fight, is MORE than what GGG was getting for the fight breh

His contract runs until October 2015. If he would've accepted the fight (as Arum presented the offer), he would have fought GGG in July 2014 and gotten 6.6 mill vs GGG and his next fight he would've received 5 million if he lost to GGG and 10 million if he beat GGG as his minimum for his next fight

Doesnt really sound like an extension to me, considering that he's already under contract for the next 15 months (going by the date of the article) and 15 months is enough time for at LEAST 2 fights if JCC Jr fought every 6 months.

Who cares how much GGG would a made?? How does that effect Chavez?? Who's the draw??

How does it makes sense to fight Vera for 2.5 then fight GGG on PPV basically no PPV for 2 milly

You're forgetting Arum thought the contract ended after JCC Jr next fight N was bytching bout paying him with no re up... Then all of a sudden his tune changed N the contract was no longer one fight but ended in Oct 2015

Chavez signs the extension gets to the last fight on the deal N we right back having this convo again cuz guess what Arum goin be on his Joo shyt

 

[Axum Ezana]

There's only a handful of good heavyweights.......and Pulev is the best of them at this current moment.

By a nice margin I might add.

When Stiverne/Wilder finally goes down we'll have another legit contender at the throne, but until that bout is even signed............Pulev.



And If you've followed Pulev you'd know he's damn good. Klitschko-beating good? Maybe, Wlad hasn't been challenged since................

what you think about the Bryant Jennings potential?

 

[Black_Jesus]

Not one of those fighters are with Top Rank though so how would not signing with TR affect him fighting any of those names?

And not one of those fighters are making anywhere near what Jr was offered by Arum... Jr was feeling himself a little too much.. the thing is nobody knows why
I guess in his dumbass mind he was going to get out of his contract, sign his soul over to Al Satan, and finish his career hoping to fight bums on Showslime for decent purses. Who knows what his plan is.. who cares hes a bytch.

 

[Newzz]

Who cares how much GGG would a made?? How does that effect Chavez?? Who's the draw??

JCC is the bigger draw.

How does it makes sense to fight Vera for 2.5 then fight GGG on PPV basically no PPV for 2 milly

He is under contract until October 2015. He could've fought GGG for the 6.6 million and (if he wins he got 10 mill his next fight. Loss gives him 5 mill next fight) and took another fight. The way it's written, it doesnt say ANYTHING about Arum adding an additional fight to his contract...only that JCC next fight would have either a 5 mill or 10 mill minimum. Being that the article was written May 2014 and October 2015 was 15 months away, JCC and GGG could've fought in July 2014, another fight for JCC in January 2015, and his last fight in July 2015. That's 3 fights or 1 every 6 months which he is already under contract to do.

You're forgetting Arum thought the contract ended after JCC Jr next fight N was bytching bout paying him with no re up... Then all of a sudden his tune changed N the contract was no longer one fight but ended in Oct 2015

He was wrong. JCC Jr nor is his camp disputing the validity of the October 2015 date are they?

Chavez signs the extension gets to the last fight on the deal N we right back having this convo again cuz guess what Arum goin be on his Joo shyt

I dont see an extension offered breh

 

[theflyest]

#ChavezCoalition

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/10209/chavez-jr-fading-away
The negotiations for a January fight with titleholder Carl Froch are going nowhere and very well could be dead as Froch is instead looking at a mandatory defense against British countryman James DeGale because Chavez seems so reluctant to make a deal.

And now Chavez (48-1-1, 32 KOs), who fought just once in 2013 and will fight only once this year, is also passing up the opportunity to win a super middleweight title against Anthony Dirrell (27-0-1, 22 KOs), who claimed the belt on Aug. 16 as he outpointed Sakio Bika in a rematch of their draw. Chavez is Dirrell’s mandatory challenger and not inclined to take that undeserved title opportunity either.

The WBC announced on its website on Monday that Chavez has notified the organization that he will not exercise his mandatory status against Dirrell. The WBC, therefore, said it has approved Dirrell to make a voluntary defense of his title in his next fight while the organization figures out the mandatory challenger.

Keep in mind that Chavez now has not only rejected two different super middleweight title opportunities but also declined to face middleweight titlist Gennady Golovkin in a fight that was being put together for July at the Forum in Inglewood, California.

lol @ Chavez Jr being the mandatory

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

JCC is the bigger draw.



He is under contract until October 2015. He could've fought GGG for the 6.6 million and (if he wins he got 10 mill his next fight. Loss gives him 5 mill next fight) and took another fight. The way it's written, it doesnt say ANYTHING about Arum adding an additional fight to his contract...only that JCC next fight would have either a 5 mill or 10 mill minimum. Being that the article was written May 2014 and October 2015 was 15 months away, JCC and GGG could've fought in July 2014, another fight for JCC in January 2015, and his last fight in July 2015. That's 3 fights or 1 every 6 months which he is already under contract to do.



He was wrong. JCC Jr nor is his camp disputing the validity of the October 2015 date are they?



I dont see an extension offered breh

So you jus goin believe what Arum tells you bout the contract?? Did Tim Bradley ever get that 10 million??

Is it past Arum to fukk around N get that contract to last past Oct 15??

How tf does a contract go from 1 fight left to 2 yrs left in the first place?? N if the contract is valid til Oct 2015 due to inactivity N suspensions why the need to sign the 2 fight extension?? Arum should be able to force him to fight without it.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Foreman beat Russia for a gold medal. America.

 

[Ari Gold Bawse]

lol @ Chavez Jr being the mandatory

WBC dont even try to hide their bias and bullshyt anymore

 

[Mook]

And not one of those fighters are making anywhere near what Jr was offered by Arum... Jr was feeling himself a little too much.. the thing is nobody knows why
I guess in his dumbass mind he was going to get out of his contract, sign his soul over to Al Satan, and finish his career hoping to fight bums on Showslime for decent purses. Who knows what his plan is.. who cares hes a bytch.

yea bruh wonder why hes feeling himself

But when the Nielsen ratings for Saturday's show came out, Chavez was a big winner. The show attracted 1.416 million viewers, the top showing for boxing on cable this year.

Today it's being reported that Saturday's rematch between Chavez and Vera did an impressive 1.39 million average and peaked at 1.53 million. This is going to stand as one of HBO's highest rated boxing cards of the year, and it may take home the gold when the dust is settled in December.

 

[Black_Jesus]

yea bruh wonder why hes feeling himself

But when the Nielsen ratings for Saturday's show came out, Chavez was a big winner. The show attracted 1.416 million viewers, the top showing for boxing on cable this year.

Today it's being reported that Saturday's rematch between Chavez and Vera did an impressive 1.39 million average and peaked at 1.53 million. This is going to stand as one of HBO's highest rated boxing cards of the year, and it may take home the gold when the dust is settled in December.

Who cares?? What was the point of even posting this shyt??.. Arum tried to pay that faggit good money if he signed a two fight extension.... He didn't want to resign with TR(didn't want to fight GGG) thats on him

 

[Skip b]

Chavez turned down a two fight deal making career high paydays win or lose.. yes hes doing it to himself all to duck a GGG asswhooping..

Hmmmmmmmmmmm..............










I'll let you live with your shyt for 2day, go ahead and spar with the pups

 

[Black_Jesus]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm..............










I'll let you live with your shyt for 2day, go ahead and spar with the pups

suck a dikk

 

[Skip b]

suck a dikk

You done for the day?