Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[surv2syn]

Wilder needs to keep fighting better opposition now...somehow I still feel he is not quite ready yet...but doing well.

 

[patscorpio]

Ahmet Öner, promoter of heavyweight contender Odlanier Solis, has called for a clash between his fighter and Deontay Wilder after Wilder’s spectacular KO against Sergey Liakhovich on Friday night.ca

solis? that fat fukk has already been taken out in 1. he faces wilder and it will be the same thing again...and wont be because of a weight related injury

 

[SuikodenII]

solis? that fat fukk has already been taken out in 1. he faces wilder and it will be the same thing again...and wont be because of a weight related injury

Two former Olympic medalists, one a former title challenger who was indeed stopped in 1 round, but is still formidable as long as he's in shape...I really really like the match-up myself, not sure about the winner getting a Klitschko but both guys have a lot of potential, it's time to see who meets it

That "fat fukk" needs to be pushed and Wilder needs rounds against a non punching-bag type opponent.....

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Wilder needs to keep fighting better opposition now...somehow I still feel he is not quite ready yet...but doing well.

This nikka been eating off of Cappadonna ass cab drivers for years. Time to fight someone that punches back.

 

[SuikodenII]

Ouch

 

[SuikodenII]

 

[SuikodenII]

Why they gotta include Jhonny

 

[Jello Biafra]

someone who earned their title by fighting a less talented fighter because the title was vacated or a person who beat a less talented fighter who earned it the title by the way first way I mentioned.

I have always considered the gatekeeper in boing to be a guy who is good but not elite and is used by their fighters as a measuring stick of their place in a given division.
Beating a gatekeeper pushes a prospect or a fighter on the cusp over the line to the point that they are then given title shots and considered a top guy in their weight class. A loss to a gatekeeper either derails that fighters career trajectory completely or puts them a few steps back.

 

[Sam Peel]

 

[NormanConnors]

Who yall got Thurman or Guerrero GB aint playing

Thurman, he really showed me something (and answered a lot of my questions about him) in his last fight. I'm on board.

 

[TheLukieBaby]

I could watch it for free but it'd be a disservice as a boxing head if I don't pay for a PPV or go to a live event once in a while lol. lucky you're getting to watch that fight live..i know my breh @TheLukieBaby also does what you do too.

got my password back lol

 

[HARLEM AL]

Did they change the meaning of gate keeper?

I always known it to be a person who is a step up fighter for a new prospect or contender. Gate keepers in general gauge whether or nota fighter is ready for the big boys(no homillz)

 

[SuikodenII]

http://www.telegram.com/article/20130811/COLUMN36/108119998

*Insert Al Haymon smiley*

Things were a whole lot simpler when Edwin “La Bomba” Rodriguez was just the kid from Worcester with a crunching body punch and a local manager who helped him navigate through the land mines and snipers of professional boxing.

But now that Rodriguez has gone big time, he has put himself in the crossfire of one of the sport’s nastiest feuds.

The undefeated super middleweight contender has a new BFF in manager Al Haymon. But in hiring the powerful and controversial promoter/manager/adviser, Rodriguez may have made an enemy of HBO, which had televised his last two fights before the Monte Carlo Million Dollar Super Four tournament.

For those who aren’t aware, Haymon and HBO are like nitro and glycerine. It has been that way since Haymon helped Floyd Mayweather Jr. skip out on a deal with HBO and sign with Showtime.

Since then, Haymon and his clients, most of whom are promoted by Golden Boy, have been banished from HBO and fight almost exclusively on Showtime.

The interesting part of all this is that Lou DiBella, Rodriguez’s promoter, has always had a close relationship with HBO. So, will the most powerful network in boxing snub DiBella because he represents Rodriguez — and, by extension, Haymon — or will it make an exception because of DiBella, who was an HBO executive at one time but also has a good relationship with Showtime?

It’s probably not a big deal either way to Rodriguez (24-0-0, 16 knockouts), who is finally viewed as championship timber after his first-round stoppage of Denis Grachev four weeks ago in the Monte Carlo tournament final.

Before he signed with Haymon on Monday night following a whirlwind four-day courtship, Rodriguez was offered a Sept. 28 bout on HBO against WBA Super champion Andre Ward (26-0-0, 14 KOs) during a meeting in New York with DiBella and HBO officials.

“I think I’ll beat Andre Ward,” Rodriguez said on Friday, pointing to Ward’s long layoff (his last fight was in September 2012).

But Rodriguez — currently on vacation with his wife and three kids at Disney World and wanting adequate time to prepare for what he called “the biggest fight of my career” — proposed making the Ward fight for November.

HBO not only balked at that, Rodriguez said, but the network wasn’t interested in an alternate opponent like Mikkel Kessler (46-3-0, 35), Arthur Abraham (36-4-0, 28) or Lucian Bute (31-1-0, 24) for a nontitle bout in November.

After emerging from the meeting with no commitment from HBO on his next fight, Rodriguez signed with Haymon. It’s as though HBO drove him right into Haymon’s arms. Rodriguez accused the network of “working for the other side” in the Ward negotiations.

“They just seemed to be more interested in getting Andre Ward his next fight,” Rodriguez said on Friday from Florida, “so they wouldn’t commit on getting another date (for the fight) or another fight (for me). So we came out not knowing what was going to happen for my next fight, whether it was going to be on HBO or not.

“It wasn’t a good feeling knowing they were just trying to get an opponent for Andre Ward for this year. They were interested in continuing to work with me, but at that moment, their best interest was to get Andre Ward an opponent — that’s the feeling I got from the meeting I had with them.”

Soon after that meeting, Haymon — like a buzzard spotting a carcass — telephoned Rodriguez, who said he had been considering two other prospective managers. Haymon told the fighter he had followed his career for four years, and that he was impressed with him inside and outside the ring.

Three days later, Rodriguez drove to Boston and signed a long-term contract with the one-time music promoter.

Now, Rodriguez said he plans to sit down with Haymon and try to arrange a title fight against WBC champion Sakio Bika, who also happens to be a Haymon client. Rodriguez called out Bika (32-5-2, 21) in the ring after his victory in Monaco, although Bika is on record as wanting a unification fight against WBA/IBF champion Carl Froch (31-2-0, 22).

Regardless of what happens there, Rodriguez said he wants to fight before the end of the year, and he feels he can beat Ward or Bika or Bute or anybody they put in front of him.

The win over Grachev and the signing with Haymon have empowered the 28-year-old Dominican native, who didn’t exactly lack for confidence before that.

“The time is now,” Rodriguez said. “In fact, I’m looking for my next fight to be a title fight, but if not next one, it’ll be the one after that.”

Rodriguez knows all about the HBO-Haymon feud, and that he may have burned his bridges with the network that televised his 2012 victories over Donovan George at Madison Square Garden and Jason Escalera at Foxwoods.

But Showtime televised three of Rodriguez’s earlier fights against Kevin Engel, James “Buddy” McGirt Jr., and Will Rosinsky, so a foothold has been established there. And if anyone can broker a partial truce between HBO and Haymon, it’s probably DiBella.

Not everyone thinks Rodriguez made a good move signing with Haymon — especially the way he rushed into it. There’s no question that the powerful Cleveland native, who has a master’s degree from Harvard, will make Rodriguez money. Haymon makes money for all of his fighters.

DiBella called Haymon an “excellent manager,” adding: “We get along very well, I have great respect for him, and we’ll work together to make the best possible arrangements for Edwin Rodriguez.”

Haymon is private, even secretive, which doesn’t help his image. He has been called, among other things, “The Ghost” for all his behind-the-scenes maneuvering.

Even though managers are not supposed to be promoters and vice versa, he has been accused of having his fingers in many pies at once. Some, like the folks at HBO, would call him shady in his dealings.

Sam Simon, who managed Lamon Brewster before Haymon moved in and stole him after his 2004 win over Wladimir Klitschko, called it “the greatest betrayal of my life.” Brewster, though, didn’t complain.

“Al Haymon is the type of manager that will make you a superstar,” Rodriguez said. “I had a great fight my last fight, so I’m at a good point in my career right now, and I think adding Al Haymon is going to get me to the point where I become a star.

“He works for the fighter. He has a lot of success, a lot of power in the business of boxing. He’s the most influential person in boxing. He’s so behind the scenes that people want to know more about him, but he’s not interested in being a star. You’ll never see him in the ring. He sounds like a really smart, genuine person.

“I’m really happy with the decision I made. I feel like I made the right decision business-wise.”

On that, like everything else in life, time will tell.

Sounds like Lou finna be blackballed too........this is veeeeeeeeeeery interesting, let's keep our eyes on where his next bout lands......

 

[SuikodenII]

http://www.boxinginlasvegas.com/nvbhof_gallery_081013.htm
http://www.boxingscene.com/photos-nevada-boxing-hall-fame-bonus-coverage--68537
http://www.boxingscene.com/photos-mayweather-tyson-chavez-hit-nevadas-hof--68535
^^Pictures from the event, check em out ya'll it's a beautiful thing

I thought he was DEAD

 

[SuikodenII]

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-discusses-reunion-with-cotto-rigondeauxs-return--68538

By Ryan Burton

BoxingScene.com and other members of the media caught up with legendary promoter Bob Arum at the Monte Carlo Hotel and Casino Saturday night where the 81-year-old Top Rank CEO was being inducted into the Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame.

Arum spoke on a variety of topics including reuniting with former three-division world champion Miguel Cotto (37-4). The Puerto Rican began his career with Top Rank and has fought all but two of his career fights under their promotional banner.

"Miguel Cotto is a guy that we raised from the beginning. Understand this, he became a free agent and then he fought Mayweather and then this other fight (versus Austin Trout) and then when the time came he decided to come back to us," Arum explained while praising Cotto for his loyalty and honesty.

"One thing about Miguel Cotto is that he is a very honorable guy. He's a warrior and an honorable guy. He never broke a contract with us. He always performed 100% and he didn't leave to go elsewhere until his contract was over and he became a free agent so I have nothing but the best feelings for Miguel and I am happy that we are promoting him again," Arum told BoxingScene.com.

Mark Ortega of ringtv.com asked Arum if there were plans to have WBO/WBA super bantamweight champion Guillermo Rigondeaux appear as the co-feature to Cotto's HBO televised October 5th fight against Delvin Rodriguez which takes place in Orlando, FL.

Rigondeaux defeated Nonito Donaire in April but HBO has been lukewarm about
televising his futures fights because of his defensive style. While Arum said that the Cuban won't be appearing on the October 5th card, he said that they will have an announcement on his next fight later this week.

Instead of Rigondeaux, undefeated lightweight Terrance Crawford will make his third appearance on the network as the chief support to Cotto-Rodriguez. His opponent should be finalized shortly.

"No, we have other plans for Rigondeaux that we will be announcing this coming week but it won't be in Orlando. Terrance Crawford has that spot," Arum stated.

Let's keep our eyes and ears open........