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Bey is a fukkin dumbass :heh:

Tf is the point in doin the soulder roll when you constantly getting blasted by wide looping right hands the whole fight

Then this nikka gets hurt N doesnt hold N leaves his hands down eating shot after shot:dahell:
 

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breh...if you go
Breh Freitas does NOTHING for Floyds legacy

Hatton was undefeated N that W gets shytted on N Ricky is better then Popo in erry single category

I can hear it now "Frietas really lost to Casa"
"Chico made him quit"
"He was a C class fighter who feasted on Brazilian bums"

Floyd fought the two best out the bunch Castillo N Corrales...its nitpicking saying he didn't fight Johnston or Popo

You got the Roy shyt twisted...it's the Roy stans that shyt on Floyd's "cherry picks" ignoring all the fukkery RJJr did:stopitslime:[/quot
Breh Freitas does NOTHING for Floyds legacy

Hatton was undefeated N that W gets shytted on N Ricky is better then Popo in erry single category

I can hear it now "Frietas really lost to Casa"
"Chico made him quit"
"He was a C class fighter who feasted on Brazilian bums"

Floyd fought the two best out the bunch Castillo N Corrales...its nitpicking saying he didn't fight Johnston or Popo

You got the Roy shyt twisted...it's the Roy stans that shyt on Floyd's "cherry picks" ignoring all the fukkery RJJr did:stopitslime:

breh...if we gonna revise shyt then it needs to make sense...I am talking about the UNDEFEATED Popo. You tellin me a fighter thats 29-0 with 29 ko's does nothing for Floyd's legacy? fukk u talmbout Chico made him quit...that shyt was after the damn fact...Floyd wasnt even a lightweight then was he??? Its not nitpicking. I dont see how yall nikkas want it both ways though. Roy aint duck no goddamn body if you cant accuse Floyd of doing the same thing. Yeah, Popo wasnt known in the states yet his U.S. purses were bigger than Castillo's outside of a Floyd and Diego rematch. fukk outta here with that bullshyt. By the time Castillo fought Floyd, Popo was making bigger purses than him fighting in fukkin Connecticut. If one nikka ducks same can be said for any other. Floyd had challenges every where....at least Oscar faced his...win or lose....even Manny.
 
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breh...if you go

OK breh calm down wit the butthurt cuz people talking bad bout Roy...you did the same shyt with Judah after the Garcia fight:comeon:


You goin act like people dont have revisionist history with floyd opponents?? They do it wit Chico N Hatton now....he was "ducking Baldo" then it was he never should have fought him

In the grand scheme of things Popo aint shyt....hes a quitter NO fukking body even the most extreme Floyd haters bring dude up as a duck from Floyd

N ionno what fukking part you dont understand that erry Roy cheerleader in here shyts on Floyd "cherrypicking" I bring up dude fighting the village people N nikkas got they panties in a bunch that Floyd ducked popo N johnston:snoop:
 

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:whoa:i meant in regards to Floyd knocking Ortiz the fukk out. So what if he is rich there are quite a few bums out there paid in boxing that means nothing :heh:. Freitas still wasn't known in the states, which is where the big money is made. Freitas had nothing for Floyd money or skill wise. The most dangerous fight Floyd could have taken in that era was against Diego, in which he won impressively. I think you're forgetting Floyd was a whole different monster at 130-135.

I'm not on the GGG bandwagon, I need to see him against somebody like Chavez Jr or maybe Ward before I buy the hype.

I don't think Roy or Floyd has ducked anybody for the record. Even though they can be intertwined business and fear are two different things.

and you hear me say here all the time, no nikka is scared of another one in boxing...at least most of the time. as far as Freitas not being known in the states....you can say that...but to clarify my statement about him being rich..so you dont try to cheapen it...

if Freitas wasnt known in the states, then why did he make a ton of money and all of his biggest fights were in the U.S.? Corrales, Diaz, Grigorian, Raheem, Casamayor?
if Freitas wasnt known in the states then why was his purse for his fight with Corrales (AFTER Chico had lost to FMJ and Casa) more than what Castillo made for Lazcano and Corrales 1 combined?
if Freitas wasnt known in the states why did he make more in his fight with Casamayor (that era's Rigo) than Castillo did vs Lazcano and vs Corrales 1 combined? Remember, Freitas and Casamayor couldnt speak English....neither damn one of them. Castillo was supposed to be known because he had fought FMJ twice by that time.
the thing about Johnston was, he wasnt a huge name but he was known. NOBODY knew who Castillo was even AFTER the 2nd Johnston fight. Nobody knew who he was til he gave Floyd a tough fight.

if you say nobody cared about Freitas then you dont remember it the way I do. He was 35-0 when he got to Corrales.

all I am saying is....I want yall to tell me with a straight face that Carlos Hernandez and Jesus Chavez meant more to Floyd's legacy than an undefeated WBO champ in Freitas and undefeated WBA champ in Casa. :what: thats the two dudes Floyd fought in the 16 months BEFORE Casa and Freitas fought.
 

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OK breh calm down wit the butthurt cuz people talking bad bout Roy...you did the same shyt with Judah after the Garcia fight:comeon:


You goin act like people dont have revisionist history with floyd opponents?? They do it wit Chico N Hatton now....he was "ducking Baldo" then it was he never should have fought him

In the grand scheme of things Popo aint shyt....hes a quitter NO fukking body even the most extreme Floyd haters bring dude up as a duck from Floyd

N ionno what fukking part you dont understand that erry Roy cheerleader in here shyts on Floyd "cherrypicking" I bring up dude fighting the village people N nikkas got they panties in a bunch that Floyd ducked popo N johnston:snoop:

how did I do the same thing with Judah? Danny fought a good fight but that is a Judah that is slightly past his athletic prime...that is truth. that is not the same Judah from 6 or 7 years ago. the whole thing is...Matthysse fought basically the same version of Zab and he lost. thats why I say the LM hype is a lil premature. I am not one of those who says Floyd cherry picks. I understand the business side. You cant have it both ways though. You cant shyt on Roy and absolve Floyd. Just dont see how.

I like to know who Roy ducked that actually couldve been a made fight?

All I am sayin is...Casa, Popo, Johnston, Tszyu, Williams, Harris, Spinks, Wright, and dare I say....wait for it....Manny Pacquiao!!!...are all fights that couldve been made...but nikkas always got some excuse how it was everybody's fault but Floyd why the didnt. The Spinks fight was close to being made. Remember when this nikka talked all that shyt to Winky? That fight was close too but I think it was a dispute over the money....yeah, go figure.

In closing I will say this in Floyd's defense....if he wasnt with Top Rank....he couldve fought a lot of those guys I named. Most of the time it was Top Rank that prevented a fight...or DKP had a titlist and Floyd didnt want to give up options...like in Spinks case. Also, Arum refused to feed Cotto to Floyd at 140. So see there homie...I can still be fair and objective.
 
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another classic moment in the Bey fight....when the last round began, he was putting the beats on Molina to the body...then he throws a :salute: out to the crowd....I am assuming to Floyd. he never thought that he was gonna get TKOed like he did. thought never crossed his mind. thats why you can see with a lot of Floyd's fighters, they try to emulate him in different ways...but it takes mental focus and smarts. he had the fight in the bag....all he had to do was box....but the nikka started clownin too early.
 

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also...yall see where Gilberto Mendoza called bullshyt on HBO and TR about their treatment or lack thereof of Rigo? yeah, he has a vested interest of course but still, he called em on it. that goes back to my point earlier about Casamayor and Freitas....they didnt speak English. now I will say that Casamayor was a fighter, he was more exciting than Rigo. other than that there is little difference. thats why it proves he is being punished for beating Nonito. HBO is still trying to pull the same shyt and its getting old. If Rigo was with GBP and on Sho....I dont think we would be having this conversation.
 

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“I don’t want to take any credit away from Molina but I felt I was fighting two or three people in there,” Bey said. “The ref was warning me for one thing or another the whole fight. He nit-picked me for everything, pretty much took 80 percent of my arsenal away. It became a distraction, and then it took me out of my game plan. He definitely affected my performance."

so this is why he glanced at the ref and took his eye off Molina and got clocked with a left hook? :rudy:
 

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Sauerland Event has confirmed that they have agreed to terms for mandatory challenger Karo Murat (25-1-1, 15 KOs) to face ring legend and IBF light heavyweight world champion Bernard Hopkins (53-6-2, 32 KOs) at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City on October 19. Hopkins was originally slated to fight Murat on July 13 at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, but the card was scrapped when Murat had problems getting a U.S. visa. At 48, Hopkins is the oldest world champion in boxing history. Murat has now resolved his visa troubles.
 
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