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These young nikkas and social media :pachaha:



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:heh: facing someone who isnt going to move....i see what the plot is


Teo fights nobodies, then a Euro fighter (Loma/Taylor) and all is forgotten. He needs to maintain his momentum and this ain't it.

Haney, Davis, Lopez, Shakur-->the BEST social media fights of any generation ... too bad no in-ring fights have occurred

A damn shame a half-baked YT guys is the ONLY one stepping up to the plate
 

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Spence aint who they think he is talent wise and its gonna be a shame how his career ends cause him and his handlers are too dumb to take a couple of tuneups after him getting his brain rattled by Crawford or pavement.. and it's a also a damn shame they are still trying to freeze out Bud in 2024.. Spence aint beating Tzsyu but I will root for him if the fight happens

If Bud is the face of boxing how is he frozen out? lol one second nikkas tell me he the face, big fights only, he can do what he wants. Next second he being froze out.

Seems Tim's team knows Spence at AT&T is a bigger money fight, and I heard on one show (not saying this is fact), Tim's manager says Bud wants 15M which can be him sending smoking signals nobody is gonna pay for that shyt thus Bud has priced himself out.
 

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Teo fights nobodies, then a Euro fighter (Loma/Taylor) and all is forgotten. He needs to maintain his momentum and this ain't it.

Haney, Davis, Lopez, Shakur-->the BEST social media fights of any generation ... too bad no in-ring fights have occurred

A damn shame a half-baked YT guys is the ONLY one stepping up to the plate

Teo and Matias should be fighting each other especially since both are fighting in June.
 

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I would have understood this pre-July 29 but not now. Dude got beat really really bad. Would anyone really want to see him again at that level?

this would be some extreme in house fukkery if it goes down like this
dropping a belt and passing on fighting the P4P #1 or #2 guy for a bout nobody is asking for against a dude who is damaged goods after that beating :what:
Do we know if Spence even has the same appeal to generate PPV sales at this point. Just seems like an way to protect Tsyzu and squeeze more money out of whats left of Spence name before tossing him in the bushes
 

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this would be some extreme in house fukkery if it goes down like this
dropping a belt and passing on fighting the P4P #1 or #2 guy for a bout nobody is asking for against a dude who is damaged goods after that beating :what:
Do we know if Spence even has the same appeal to generate PPV sales at this point. Just seems like an way to protect Tsyzu and squeeze more money out of whats left of Spence name before tossing him in the bushes

I can tell you all don't go to events. Spence damn near has a cult like following in Dallas.

There is a reason Manny choose Spence over Bud or why PBC was propping Spence pre lose for a Canelo show down. Justified or not somebody somewhere had enough data that said Spence should be one of the faces of boxing. I'm not here to so this is fact I'm just calling it like it is.

If Bud is who y'all thought he was then he would "boss up" and do his own thing picking who he wanted to fight but instead he is searching for fights, that's not what "top dogs" do. Monster and Canelo don't beg people, when they call your name people answer. Bud is a generational talent but that don't mean he is a good product

Look at AJ, where even after the losses he is the biggest draw in boxing after Canelo and isn't the "best" in his weight class
 

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I can tell you all don't go to events. Spence damn near has a cult like following in Dallas.

There is a reason Manny choose Spence over Bud or why PBC was propping Spence pre lose for a Canelo show down. Justified or not somebody somewhere had enough data that said Spence should be one of the faces of boxing. I'm not here to so this is fact I'm just calling it like it is.

If Bud is who y'all thought he was then he would "boss up" and do his own thing picking who he wanted to fight but instead he is searching for fights, that's not what "top dogs" do. Monster and Canelo don't beg people, when they call your name people answer. Bud is a generational talent but that don't mean he is a good product

Look at AJ, where even after the losses he is the biggest draw in boxing after Canelo and isn't the "best" in his weight class
You're talking about pre-July 29th. How's does that translate to now?

Spence was beaten so bad, fans were saying there was no point in a rematch. Cats were saying he should retire.

But somehow I'm supposed to believe he still holds that kinda weight against someone else after getting beat like that?

And what is it with you with what nikkas or not doing? You do this every time someone criticizes Spence. He got beat and beat bad. It's only right to question if he's worth watching at this point.
 

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You're talking about pre-July 29th. How's does that translate to now?

Spence was beaten so bad, fans were saying there was no point in a rematch. Cats were saying he should retire.

But somehow I'm supposed to believe he still holds that kinda weight against someone else after getting beat like that?

The simple fact Tim's manager has Spence's name in his mouth lol, and then Tim beating around the bush but eventually saying "whatever pays more".

A Spence Comeback fight in AT&T Stadium is going to sell. This is not me saying Tim should fight Spence over Bud, I`m talking pure business.

Tim's team probably see Spence as a Low Risk High Reward scenario as they can make good money, and Spence is "damaged" and a name for the resume, and Bud has limited options at 154 thus Tim can literally comeback and Bud will still be there and if no Bud he can gun for Charlo or Lubin

For Spence this is high risk high reward as it will be the literal litmus of if he should retire and if he wins he literally had has the division in his palm and can posture a Bud rematch at 154.

Boxing is about Story lines lol
 

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You're talking about pre-July 29th. How's does that translate to now?

Spence was beaten so bad, fans were saying there was no point in a rematch. Cats were saying he should retire.

But somehow I'm supposed to believe he still holds that kinda weight against someone else after getting beat like that?

And what is it with you with what nikkas or not doing? You do this every time someone criticizes Spence. He got beat and beat bad. It's only right to question if he's worth watching at this point.
154 is not a division to be fukking around in...spence is a taxed fighter...you can literally see and hear impairments on him...he's had 2 fairly serious eye surgeries...spence does not need a tim tszyu...if you want to build him back up...give him some real jobbers to fight...those would be better indicators of whether he should be fighting anymore plus a better chance of actually looking spectacular on the outside to give fans "hope" something is still there...tim tszyu can clearly hurt fighters at 154 and he will hurt spence badly and theres no reason for me to believe otherwise if that fight is made next after he beats fundora
 

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154 is not a division to be fukking around in...spence is a taxed fighter...you can literally see and hear impairments on him...he's had 2 fairly serious eye surgeries...spence does not need a tim tszyu...if you want to build him back up...give him some real jobbers to fight...those would be better indicators of whether he should be fighting anymore plus a better chance of actually looking spectacular on the outside to give fans "hope" something is still there...tim tszyu can clearly hurt fighters at 154 and he will hurt spence badly and theres no reason for me to believe otherwise if that fight is made next after he beats fundora

The only thing I can say is with Spence's "no tune up" mentality he likely feels if he can't beat Tim then he shouldn't even be boxing anymore. I think if the Unification wasn't happening then Spence probably would have taken it easy, but he probably see's this as a all or nothing fast track chance because if he wins he comes out of it Unified or WBC at worst, and can reunify with Bud if we really wants his lick back.

I`m not saying this is the right path I`m just going off of what I believe paired with the Money side.
 

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If Bud is the face of boxing how is he frozen out? lol one second nikkas tell me he the face, big fights only, he can do what he wants. Next second he being froze out.

Seems Tim's team knows Spence at AT&T is a bigger money fight, and I heard on one show (not saying this is fact), Tim's manager says Bud wants 15M which can be him sending smoking signals nobody is gonna pay for that shyt thus Bud has priced himself out.
Did your brain get rattled along with Spence that night??? Who TF here said Bud was the face of boxing??

That's right.. one minute he getting froze out at 147 now he getting froze out at 154.. Keep Bud away from Jermell now Tszyu.. And it's always Haymon fighters.. seems like Tim is ducking Crawford and his team is talking about vacating in order to duck to fight yet another washed PBC welterweight 1st Keith Thurman and now Errol Spence..
 
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