Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[malbaker86]

i don't think da charlos are bums.
i think the circumstances in which Canelo fought the first one, and how he was so invested in fighting da second one and no one else is bullshyt lol.

Floyd invested in PBC (and most things AL haymon related tbh) and was just flexing with that comment. I dont think he has anything to do with the day to day or match making.

To your second paragraph, i hate that you even had to explain that because he knew exactly what Mayweather meant by that comment

 

[TheNig]

I agree this is Floyd's fault. Don't know how or why but it is.







I'm just fukkin' around.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Potentially Munguia in May...

 

[malbaker86]

Dont love it but don’t hate it. Munguia gonna have to fight the fight of his life for this to go 12. I say 9th round stoppage

 

[desjardins]

Damn Glazer is 2-0 with his latest big PBC predictions, hopefully he's not right with his other take that every Amazon Prime date will be PPV because PBC doesn't have any money

I don't think Canelo leaving is about him ducking, seems like he was in real negotiations for Charlo and PBC just didn't have the money. PBC would know Canelo's expectations under the original Showtime deal and if that included two easy fights (for $35mil) first before Benavidez......then it is what it is
Benavidez already has a fight scheduled against a Canelo promotions fighter no less, so despite the talk about wanting Canelo they moving as if they know it's not going to happen (for whatever reason) and ain't that pressed

Either way this is a massive L for PBC. Bud leaving too, we don't know whats up with Ennis if he's even going to sign with PBC, dozens of inactive fighters, Tank might be stuck in a corner after the Frank Martin fight and forced to cross a street. Very interesting times for PBC

 

[JamesJabdi]

Peoples actions take priority over their word. Eddie Hearn can say whatever he wants to justify to the public why a cashcow is leaving their company. But his actions contradict what you're saying. (In fact, NOBODY is saying what YOU are saying regarding losing 10s of millions, you made that up). Eddie Hearns actions show him giving Canelo bigger and better offers every time they come to the negotiation table.. So can you explain why they would be paying Canelo even MORE money if Canelo loses them money. Make it make sense playa

TR and those other companies hasn't hurt boxing the way Haymon, Floyd, and PBC has. And I'll die on that hill yall can say what tf yall wanna say.. PBC dont give a fukk about none of you nikkas. neither does Floyd c00n ass.. and neither does Haymon who would not only never speak to any of you.. he wont cosign any of the cheerleading yall been doing for years defending a man that aint even man enough to defend himself publicly.. The exact moment they decided to splinter away from HBO to lie to fans about big fights on free television was the day boxing as a sport took a nose dive

You really on here babbling when i present to you words from the guy Canelo been doing business with and just dismiss it because it dosen't fit your agenda .
And where are you getting the 50 million that DAZN is willing to pay Canelo for a Berlanga fight from?. What DAZN fights have done more PPV buys then his Plant and Charlo fights with PBC? . Do you even understand whats going on at DAZN right now and the last 5 years?


We don't care about your vendetta against Floyd or Al Haymon....just be real about it and stop acting like you are unbiased..Floyd mollywhopped your boy Manny and you haven't been able to recover since. Blaming them for HBO boxing going out of business is just laughable....Talking about cheerleading because people are bringing up facts, yet you have close to 10 years of hating on Al Haymon and Floyd on here.

I will give you this Floyd did influence alot of these boxers....diffrence is that they aren't as good, as entertaining or as lucrative as he was.

 

[desjardins]

he’s running from Benavidez. Won’t even fight him for $55 million guaranteed.

people going say this
but remember when Bud said he had $25mil for Spence and people laughed cause nobody trusted the source for the money
that's probably what Canelo did to Haymon if that offer is real. Clearly Canelo doesn't trust PBC ability to guarantee his purses right now. They are reporting that Canelo wanted the $35mil in escrow and they couldn't guarantee that, so they had $55mil in cash to give him right now for Benavidez? doubt it

 

[Tanahashi Coates]

So how are the sanctioning bodies gonna explain Berlanga leapfrogging Morrell despite not being top 5 in the WBA before Saturday and Munguia leapfrogging Benavidez despite him being interim champion for half a fukking century. Some mandatories better be called soon

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

people going say this
but remember when Bud said he had $25mil for Spence and people laughed cause nobody trusted the source for the money
that's probably what Canelo did to Haymon if that offer is real. Clearly Canelo doesn't trust PBC ability to guarantee his purses right now. They are reporting that Canelo wanted the $35mil in escrow and they couldn't guarantee that, so they had $55mil in cash to give him right now for Benavidez? doubt it

He has no intention of fighting Benavidez. He wanted the $35 million guarantee to fight Jermall who is literally a walking mental health issue. Haymon can get the cash if the interest is there. No one has EVER had a problem getting paid from PBC. No one is excited about Jermall fighting anybody right now. That’s the issue Canelo has to face.

That fight makes zero sense for PBC or Canelo. It’s bad business. A Cinco de Mayo fight against the Mexican Monster would be a $100 million fight and Canelo simply doesn’t want the risk.

He’s looking for someone to bail him out and give him $30 million to fight an opponent who can’t beat him. I hope he can speak Arabic because those are the only ones who can afford to waste their money. Eddie Hearn doesn’t have it, and a fight against Munguia or Berlanga ain’t generating a big buzz.

 

[reservoirdogs]

So how are the sanctioning bodies gonna explain Berlanga leapfrogging Morrell despite not being top 5 in the WBA before Saturday and Munguia leapfrogging Benavidez despite him being interim champion for half a fukking century. Some mandatories better be called soon

The sad thing is they don't have to, they will give a half-assed BS explanation at best but maybe not even that, they know that nobody is going to take it to court so they can get away with it.
Promoters are interested in the corrupt system remaining intact in the long term, right now Al Haymon may have gotten the short end of the stick here but he knows that tomorrow it may be him and his fighters that the same corrupted governing bodies will help (Mall Charlo remaining WBC champion, etc.).

Fighters are discouraged from taking these governing bodies to court, it pretty much means that they will be blackballed from that point on because trying to ruin one of these organizations means they ruin the party for these big promoters in general.

 

[patscorpio]

 

[desjardins]

He has no intention of fighting Benavidez. He wanted the $35 million guarantee to fight Jermall who is literally a walking mental health issue. Haymon can get the cash if the interest is there. No one has EVER had a problem getting paid from PBC. No one is excited about Jermall fighting anybody right now. That’s the issue Canelo has to face.

That fight makes zero sense for PBC or Canelo. It’s bad business. A Cinco de Mayo fight against the Mexican Monster would be a $100 million fight and Canelo simply doesn’t want the risk.

He’s looking for someone to bail him out and give him $30 million to fight an opponent who can’t beat him. I hope he can speak Arabic because those are the only ones who can afford to waste their money. Eddie Hearn doesn’t have it, and a fight against Munguia or Berlanga ain’t generating a big buzz.

PBC gave him this deal, and paid him guaranteed money for the first Charlo fight nobody asked for and didn't even sell 700k buys. They knew what his purse expectations were and who they had for him to fight. Benavidez or not they were going have to come up with $70mil for him to fight two mid opponents. That's why I'm saying it ain't ducking. They promised him a certain amount of money and now that their circumstances changed they trying spin him on how he can get the bread. He can just bounce and work directly with Dazn if Mungiuia is the only fight PBC wants to give the $35mil for

 

[CBalla]

now boots has no canelo undercard to fight on

boots might have to bounce from pbc

 

[Black_Jesus]

You really on here babbling when i present to you words from the guy Canelo been doing business with and just dismiss it because it dosen't fit your agenda

What did I dismiss???.. Im pointed out DAZN keeps coming to Canelo with bigger n bigger bags regardless of whatever comes out of Eddie mouth.. I'm pointing out ACTIONS > WORDS and asked you to explain why they would still be giving Canelo more and bigger deals if Canelo is losing them 10s of millions(which is still nowhere in what you quoted).

What DAZN fights have done more PPV buys then his Plant and Charlo fights with PBC? . Do you even understand whats going on at DAZN right now and the last 5 years?

nikka none of the ppv buys have been officially released by Showtime or DAZN so who gives AF.. you going off rumors from unidentified source.. thats irrelevant to the fact that PBC just couldn't secure the bag that was on contract

We don't care about your vendetta against Floyd or Al Haymon....just be real about it and stop acting like you are unbiased..Floyd mollywhopped your boy Manny and you haven't been able to recover since. Blaming them for HBO boxing going out of business is just laughable....Talking about cheerleading because people are bringing up facts, yet you have close to 10 years of hating on Al Haymon and Floyd on here.

Who gives AF if Floyd beat Pac almost a decade ago.. I have zero hang-ups on that fight. I give the same smoke to showtime, DAZN TR, ESPN, etc when they were wrong. The moment Haymon stole Oscar fighters and splintered off to other networks that spark the slow decline of boxing. HBO boxing just happened to die.. Now you got guys like Jake Paul running the sport.. you got nikkas clamoring for fights between a welterweight and a Super Middleweight you got nikkas cosigning a Spence bum ass talking bout he need to tale am easy road down an imaginary side of street... Haymon responsible for it all

 

[patscorpio]