Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[Apollo Creed]

It’s not hating if it’s legit criticism.
He’s talked up by his fans as a generational talent for years and as a cash cow he has all the juice to get whatever fight he wants so let’s see those top fights already. Fighting Garcia was a step in the right direction but Lopez, Haney and Shakur are actual top level fighters unlike Garcia.

Time to call his own shots like how Canelo does. Feels like he still let Haymon, Floyd and whoever to have a big say in who he fights. The Cruz rematch is a typical in-house struggle matchup if it happens which has no real demand for it.

He could just go free agent or make deals for only a few fights with networks and just pick and choose whoever he wants to fight.

Anyway, I hope what you’re saying is true and he really moves on to fight top talent.

there is a reason you are a coli poster and not a promoter.

Tank is the biggest draw in boxing not named Canelo, and if Tank is serious about being at the stage where he wants the legacy fights, and to your point fighting Ryan is a step in the right direction then Tank is literally the perfect example of having his career managed correctly.

the so called people better than Tank are begging to fight him and he can pick and choose when he wants to fight them and he will be the A side.

If boxers listened to you nikkas they'd all be broke with CTE.

 

[R=G]

Roy should have faced James Toney in a rematch at heavyweight, then retired

No. Go after Tyson and Lewis and retire.

 

[R=G]

It’s not hating if it’s legit criticism.
He’s talked up by his fans as a generational talent for years and as a cash cow he has all the juice to get whatever fight he wants so let’s see those top fights already. Fighting Garcia was a step in the right direction but Lopez, Haney and Shakur are actual top level fighters unlike Garcia.

Time to call his own shots like how Canelo does. Feels like he still let Haymon, Floyd and whoever to have a big say in who he fights. The Cruz rematch is a typical in-house struggle matchup if it happens which has no real demand for it.

He could just go free agent or make deals for only a few fights with networks and just pick and choose whoever he wants to fight.

Anyway, I hope what you’re saying is true and he really moves on to fight top talent.

Teo's name is being brought up alot by that trainer

 

[ba'al]

there is a reason you are a coli poster and not a promoter.

If boxers listened to you nikkas they'd all be broke with CTE.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Lol these weird ass nikkas kill me. Got everything to say but dont support shyt. They live in a bizzaro world where money falls out the sky to fund all these fantasy matches.

nikkas will call you a casual as a diss when 80% or more of PPV buys and gate comes from casual fans.

 

[ba'al]

Lol these weird ass nikkas kill me. Got everything to say but dont support shyt. They live in a bizzaro world where money falls out the sky to fund all these fantasy matches.

nikkas will call you a casual as a diss when 80% or more of PPV buys and gate comes from casual fans.

Yeah I feel you breh and honestly I ain't follow ya'll conversation all the way through I just read your post and thought it was funny.

Said "That's why you're not a promoter....."

I see what @reservoirdogs is saying though I would like to see Tank fight some of those guys he listed. Tank called Shakur and Haney trash so that would be interesting to see them fight. But I know the money is everything in boxing and it's a lot of fukking negotiations and business talk around these fighters.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yeah I feel you breh and honestly I ain't follow ya'll conversation all the way through I just read your post and thought it was funny.

Said "That's why you're not a promoter....."

I see what @reservoirdogs is saying though I would like to see Tank fight some of those guys he listed. Tank called Shakur and Haney trash so that would be interesting to see them fight. But I know the money is everything in boxing and it's a lot of fukking negotiations and business talk around these fighters.

the ultimate point is Tank has did the heavy lifting to make those fights money fights now lol. Devin and Shakur are NOT big draws, look at the nickel and diming them nikkas doing, look at the Frank Martin situation. Tank vs Issac Cruz makes more money than Devin vs Shakur lol let that sink in. This why Shakur calling everyone p*ssy yet moment Tank name brought up he eating Tank dikk while Tank shows none of these nikkas respect in the context of them being on his level or close. Like I said there is a reason these nikkas is posting on the coli and not putting together multi million dollar boxing events.

 

[ba'al]

the ultimate point is Tank has did the heavy lifting to make those fights money fights now lol. Devin and Shakur are NOT big draws, look at the nickel and diming them nikkas doing, look at the Frank Martin situation. Tank vs Issac Cruz makes more money than Devin vs Shakur lol let that sink in. This why Shakur calling everyone p*ssy yet moment Tank name brought up he eating Tank dikk while Tank shows none of these nikkas respect in the context of them being on his level or close. Like I said there is a reason these nikkas is posting on the coli and not putting together multi million dollar boxing events.

That's probably where the dispute begins with you and @reservoirdogs. Seem your focus is more on the actual business and money with Tank and with the other poster he seems more interested in the boxer's sportsmanship, competition, and in-ring performance. I get both sides I'm not one to have these guys slug it out for pennies. But at the same time if competitive fights can be made between any boxer in a timely manner than I'm all for it too.

 

[Apollo Creed]

That's probably where the dispute begins with you and @reservoirdogs. Seem your focus is more on the actual business and money with Tank and with the other poster he seems more interested in the boxer's sportsmanship, competition, and in-ring performance. I get both sides I'm not one to have these guys slug it out for pennies. But at the same time if competitive fights can be made between any boxer in a timely manner than I'm all for it too.

Comoetitive fights will not be made if there is no miney. Shakur literally turned down undisputed over money lol. nikkas dikk eat Shakur yet are hush about this. Devin took pennies for undisputed yet Shakur wants to negotiate more. Tank has zero belts and nets bigger paydays lol. So my point is if the money isnt there there is nothing to talk about.

Tank ryan did more than Bud spence

 

[reservoirdogs]

there is a reason you are a coli poster and not a promoter.

Tank is the biggest draw in boxing not named Canelo, and if Tank is serious about being at the stage where he wants the legacy fights, and to your point fighting Ryan is a step in the right direction then Tank is literally the perfect example of having his career managed correctly.

the so called people better than Tank are begging to fight him and he can pick and choose when he wants to fight them and he will be the A side.

If boxers listened to you nikkas they'd all be broke with CTE.

A step in the right direction but a rematch nobody needs still his most likely fight next.

You don’t have any more information on the business side unless you are that close with the camps.
It doesn’t look like that there’s no money in those fights, those are the biggest fights out there for him with big hype.

Pick and choose when he wants to fight them… ok, you know all those guys are younger than him though.

Funny that as a fan I can’t ask for a good fight now w/o someone saying I let these guys to have CTE just for my entertainment. Might as well stop watching boxing then because some of these guys will eventually have CTE.

We’re not talking about a guy whose brain got smashed and has been repeatedly beaten up and knocked out.

 

[Apollo Creed]

A step in the right direction but a rematch nobody needs still his most likely fight next.

You don’t have any more information on the business side unless you are that close with the camps.
It doesn’t look like that there’s no money in those fights, those are the biggest fights out there for him with big hype.

Pick and choose when he wants to fight them… ok, you know all those guys are younger than him though.

Funny that as a fan I can’t ask for a good fight now w/o someone saying I let these guys to have CTE just for my entertainment. Might as well stop watching boxing then because some of these guys will eventually have CTE.

We’re not talking about a guy whose brain got smashed and has been repeatedly beaten up and knocked out.

Tank is 28, Shakur is 26 with no legacy defining fights, Devin is 24/25 with more legacy defining fights than Tank and Shakur combined yet gets the most criticism in terms of his greatness. Canelo is 33 going on 34, Bud is 36 and literally just had his first meaningful fight.

Like i said you dudes literally dont understand the business of boxing

 

[reservoirdogs]

Tank is 28, Shakur is 26 with no legacy defining fights, Devin is 24/25 with more legacy defining fights than Tank and Shakur combined yet gets the most criticism in terms of his greatness. Canelo is 33 going on 34, Bud is 36 and literally just had his first meaningful fight.

Like i said you dudes literally dont understand the business of boxing

Lmao, how is this an example of not understanding “the business of boxing”.

Canelo was going for some high risk low reward fights early in his career and turned out to be the biggest money fighter in the sport by far.
Joshua did that in Europe, even after he lost the first time. Both of them lost and/or won questionable decisions a few times and yet they remained cash cows.
Floyd never lost but he took a number of real risky fights early in his career too.

Yet the undefined “boxing business” excuse brought up when it comes to Tank.
Let’s see this dude fight top opponents already, he’s a year from turning 30, nuff said.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Lmao, how is this an example of not understanding “the business of boxing”.

Canelo was going for some high risk low reward fights early in his career and turned out to be the biggest money fighter in the sport by far.
Joshua did that in Europe, even after he lost the first time. Both of them lost and/or won questionable decisions a few times and yet they remained cash cows.
Floyd never lost but he took a number of real risky fights early in his career too.

Yet the undefined “boxing business” excuse brought up when it comes to Tank.
Let’s see this dude fight top opponents already, he’s a year from turning 30, nuff said.

UK Boxing is it's own world.

Floyds' coming out party was De La Hoya (in terms of him becoming a star). Tank has nobody to give him that boost because HE IS THE STAR.

If anything for Devin/Ryan/Teo/etc. Fighting Tank would be their coming out party.

Tank is 28 it not 40 hence me bringing up the ages of his peers.

 

[patscorpio]

 

[UpAndComing]

No. Go after Tyson and Lewis and retire.

Lennox Lewis? Yeah right lol

Tyson should have been his first choice, but the deal somehow fell through. So next bet was a rematch with James Toney would have done great PPV numbers as well