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Black_Jesus

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If we saying Crawford should have bet on himself he could of been in a better bracket getting here and you saying the whole pbc 147 are ducking pussies cause crawford chose the guaranteed money again what the fukk wrong with you?
"WE" aint saying nothing.. Thats what YOU are saying.. I aint saying what YOU are saying.. Once again Crawford being signed to TR is just an excuse for fighters hide behind politics and the fact that Porter and Crawford both wanted to face each other and made a deal happen without it going to purse bid is proof Danny and Thurman were just ducking.... Hell, once Thurman became a beltless loser and got desperate even he was calling out Bud while he was still at TR.. Yall are letting the facts that these guys ducked Bud and used imaginary sides of streets as an excuse hurt yall pussies
Porter was going to top rank offices and shyt to get that fight.. he said it was the only way he was gonna get the spence rematch fukk you talking about?
:what: nikka you said Porter was petitioning the WBO... Top Rank offices is not the WBO.. what does Porter going to Top Rank offices have to do with Spence or anything we talking about?? You sound like a goofy

Fury was inactive and on a binge, hadn't even been boxing and heavyweights always thin what's the surprise this got done?
:what: Fury wasn't inactive when he fought Wilder.. There is no surprise.. when 2 fighters want to fight then the fight happens regardless of who promoter they signed to

Crawford wanting high ass guarantees and co promotion powers when he had no history of any of that wasn't gonna get it done. Spence had to force the fight and concede millions. All these examples were terrible. Nobody lost money on Ryan Garcia or tank
:yeshrug: Who gives a fukk .Spence made some concessions for a chance to become undisputed.. You want some kleenex nikka?? TF does that have to do with the lie that you must be signed to the same promoter in order to get a fight
 

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My thing is, if he beat the man that was supposed to break his will, why does any fight before that matter?

The only arguments people had for picking Spence over Crawford was Spence was stronger and his level of competition was better. Crawford proved that he was stronger and that levels of competition don't matter when you're the superior boxer.

This is by far perhaps the dumbest shyt I’ve ever read on this forum, and that’s saying a lot.

A good resume should matter in boxing. There are other good fighters out there besides Spence. Each fight is it’s own separate entity. Is this a serious question? :what: I feel like I’m in the twilight zone on this forum.

@patscorpio the nerves to dap that shyt. You should know better.
 

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This is by far perhaps the dumbest shyt I’ve ever read on this forum, and that’s saying a lot.

A good resume should matter in boxing. There are other good fighters out there besides Spence. Each fight is it’s own separate entity. Is this a serious question? :what: I feel like I’m in the twilight zone on this forum.

@patscorpio the nerves to dap that shyt. You should know better.

So his PAST resume should matter AFTER he beat the man the general public said would destroy him?

In what world does that make sense?
 

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Julio Cesar Martinez-McWilliams Arroyo Rematch Back In Play For November 4

BY JAKE DONOVAN
Published Wed Sep 13, 2023, 04:30 PM EDT
Julio Cesar Martinez and McWilliams Arroyo have another fight date in place for their oft-delayed rematch.

Whether they make into the ring or It once again collapses is a tale that will be told in the coming weeks.

BoxingScene.com has learned that the WBC flyweight title fight is set to take place November 4 at a location to be determined as part of a Showtime Championship Boxing telecast. Should it hold, Martinez-Arroyo II will join the previously revealed Subriel Matias-Shohjahon Ergashev IBF junior welterweight title fight.

The snakebit title consolidation bout promotionally belongs to Clase y Talento, the company headed by Eddy Reynoso who submitted $345,000 to win the rights during a June 22 purse bid hearing. Ten percent of the bid ($34,500) will be placed in escrow as a win bonus. The remaining $310,500 will be split 65/35 in favor of Martinez (20-2, 15KOs; 2NC) as the defending titlist.

Puerto Rico’s Arroyo holds the interim title, though he has not fought since their November 2021 meeting which ended in a No-Contest after just two rounds in Manchester, New Hampshire. A clash of heads ended their wild affair that saw both men hit the canvas in a truncated fight that was already canceled twice prior to that point.

The rematch suffered two separate postponements in 2022.

Martinez fell ill during fight week ahead of another planned meeting last June 25 in San Antonio. The bout was rescheduled for last December 3 in Glendale, Arizona. Arroyo bizarrely announced his retirement six weeks out from the fight before he immediately walked back the claim, only to withdraw from the fight after suffering a training camp injury.

Martinez went on to face Spain’s Samuel Cardona, whom he outpointed over twelve rounds. He since claimed an eleventh-round knockout of Ronal Batista for his sixth successful title defense on the May 6 undercard of superstar stablemate Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez’s unanimous decision win over John Ryder in Zapopan, Mexico.

Alvarez and Martinez are both guided by Reynoso. Alvarez (59-2-2, 39KOs) signed to a multi-fight deal with Premier Boxing Champions (PBC). It begins with his undisputed super middleweight championship defense versus fully unified Jermell Charlo atop a September 30 Showtime Pay-Per-View event.

Arroyo—who represented Puerto Rico in the 2008 Beijing Olympics—was afforded the chance to fight for the interim title after a canceled February 2021 meeting with Martinez in Miami Gardens, Florida. Their planned fight was due to serve as the co-feature to Alvarez’s eventual third round knockout of Avni Yildrim, only for Martinez to withdraw just prior to the weigh-in after concealing an injured hand.

Martinez also withdrew from a scheduled August 2020 title defense versus Arroyo due to illness.

Martinez has held the WBC junior bantamweight title since a December 2019 ninth-round knockout of former titlist Cristofer Rosales in Phoenix, Arizona. The belt was previously vacated by Charlie Edwards, who opted to move up in weight after a three-round No-Contest versus Martinez in their August 2019 mandatory title fight in London.

Should the rematch finally move forward, the winner will be free to make a voluntary defense in their next outing. Among the attractive options would be the victor from the terrific Sunny Edwards-Jesse ‘Bam’ Rodriguez IBF/WBO flyweight title fight on December 16 in Glendale, Arizona.
 

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So his PAST resume should matter AFTER he beat the man the general public said would destroy him?

In what world does that make sense?

General consensus was a 50/50 fight edging Crawford. You’re acting like Spence was an overwhelming favorite. However that’s besides the point. Spence is only one fight. A resume consists of several good fighters.

Crawford still has a lackluster overall resume. If you believe one fight makes up for that, that’s great lol.

“Who cares if his resume sucks? He beat Spence”

What kind of shyt is this?
 

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Called them dudes pawns :mjlol: .....that's what I been saying about them for years. Dudes had no pride. Their whole careers they just took their orders with a smile on their face. Never once had the heart to tell Al haymon No. Took Errol til he was 33 to finally do it. And that's only cause bud showed him the light.

Canelo and Bud came to PBC and put their foot down immediately. Either you pay me what I'm worth or I walk. And they got what they wanted. Real boss shyt.

ehh it was easier for Bud and Canelo to say that to PBC cause they were free agents no? I don't think someone signed underneath that banner can say pay me or I walk if they're still under contract buuuuuuuuuut they still could have pushed for the fight and as time revealed......NONE of them pushed for a Crawford fight. NOT ONE OF THEM
 

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When 2 people really wanna fight then the fights happen regardless the promoter.. Its no exception.. Its the rule.. yall nikkas just like to excuse ducking and accept fighters hiding behind the politics

yea that's ALWAYS been my stance. When two fighters want to fight and there's a clear path for it to happen, it usually gets made.
 

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General consensus was a 50/50 fight edging Crawford. You’re acting like Spence was an overwhelming favorite. However that’s besides the point. Spence is only one fight. A resume consists of several good fighters.

Crawford still has a lackluster overall resume. If you believe one fight makes up for that, that’s great lol.

“Who cares if his resume sucks? He beat
Spence”

What kind of shyt is this?
He is undisputed in 2 different weight divisions
you can't do that and have a lackluster resume lol
 

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He is undisputed in 2 different weight divisions
you can't do that and have a lackluster resume lol

You most certainly can. But he did beat who was in front of him. Some cats on here pick and choose who they want to apply that weak opposition tag to though (i.e Tyson). Definitely falls under plot armor for Crawford.
 
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