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[baltimore]

We know Fury will most likely beat AJ and


Well AJ isn't the same fighter he used to be so there is no need to see AJ vs Wilder
Well Usyk got exposed against Dubois with body shots so there is no need for Fury to fight him
Well Devin didn't dominate the older and smaller Loma so there is no need for Tank to fight him

We can dismiss fighters and give them pretend wins all we want to....but when they in that ring its a diffrent story.....crawford/spence was 50/50...but once in that ring it was diffrent story....styles make fights.

You talking like its easy for him to beat them....then let him prove it
I would favor him in those fights too....either y'all want to see fights or gonna have dude waiting for a canelo fight until he 40

word i thought it was styles make fights but they have made this shyt into a team sport.. Yeah bud beat the shyt outta spence and that solved 147 undisputed but now they trying to give him business acumen, who ducked who and wins over the whole promotional company.. too stannish around here lets keep shyt in perspective

 

[TheNig]

The thing we keep forgetting is Spence activated his rematch.

So if the rematch is a go, that's obviously up next. Do Lara/Garcia have a date? If they don't then does Garcia just wait around twiddling his fingers for Crawford to win?

Keith is one of my favorite fighters but this is another year where he was inactive. February will be two years since his last fight.

How do any of these dudes deserve a shot when they haven't fought, especially when the guy they're gunning for has been more active in the last three years than both of the combined?

 

[patscorpio]

The thing we keep forgetting is Spence activated his rematch.

So if the rematch is a go, that's obviously up next. Do Lara/Garcia have a date? If they don't then does Garcia just wait around twiddling his fingers for Crawford to win?

Keith is one of my favorite fighters but this is another year where he was inactive. February will be two years since his last fight.

How do any of these dudes deserve a shot when they haven't fought, especially when the guy they're gunning for has been more active in the last three years than both of the combined?

seriously..i know ppl love keith...i like keith too..and keith was the only pbc welter i didnt criticize in his peak run but like Res said after beating Danny Garcia hes been even more mr. glass than ever and inactive

the josesito fight was alarming
pac had his last great fight and beat his ass
i was not impressed at all in his inability to stop fukking mario barrios when tank's small ass did

with him its now or never to get active...i seriously dont think he can beat crawford and he hasn't given me a reason to think otherwise based off those fights i listed..nikkas are really basing a competitive fight off a version of thurman that does not exist anymore..and hasnt in about 6 years


ive already gave danny garcia bars...danny ran from 154 smoke when he couldn't even dent the likes of jose benavidez (someone crawford stopped) to try to pick up an "easier" belt against a possibly more faded fighter in lara at 160..they havent even scheduled shyt..ppl actually want to crawford fight this guy?

 

[patscorpio]

well i take it back..i wasnt happy about thurman vs porter being moved from ct to barclays because keith had an incident with a shopping cart and shyt had to be postponed lol

 

[patscorpio]

Boots at least there is something there and tangible for crawford to fight him..active and a mando with an interim belt from the most no nonsense of the orgs

 

[theflyest]

Facts and the last few sentences are paramount, but it's to the point now you can only be a Crawford fan if there is no criticism to apply or nothing objective to say even, it can only be one way/one feeling

Lol This is a Stan driven forum. You say anything that these guys view as negative and the bytch come out.

Like beating Spence negates everything that happens in the past.

Crawford hustled the gane. He got paid great to fight those top rank guys in fights that were significant mismatches. It seems smart to me.

 

[Knicksman20]

well i take it back..i wasnt happy about thurman vs porter being moved from ct to barclays because keith had an incident with a shopping cart and shyt had to be postponed lol

You & @Newzz I swear lol

 

[patscorpio]

You & @Newzz I swear lol

I had bought tickets mad early bro...the card was dope too..they fractured the shyt out of it once it got postponed

 

[patscorpio]

 

[TheNig]

Lol This is a Stan driven forum. You say anything that these guys view as negative and the bytch come out.

Like beating Spence negates everything that happens in the past.

Crawford hustled the gane. He got paid great to fight those top rank guys in fights that were significant mismatches. It seems smart to me.

My thing is, if he beat the man that was supposed to break his will, why does any fight before that matter?

The only arguments people had for picking Spence over Crawford was Spence was stronger and his level of competition was better. Crawford proved that he was stronger and that levels of competition don't matter when you're the superior boxer.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

We been through this but you such a rabid crawford fanboy that you think he could go to heavyweight and knock out AJ......stay in fantasy land

Please explain how Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia are better wins than Jermell and Canelo. This type of delusional shyt is why you PBC stans get clowned on so hard ......beating them guys does absolutely NOTHING for buds legacy.

 

[Black_Jesus]

lol porter got his fight with crawford from being a mandatory and then petitioning wbo for the 60/40 instead of the 75/25 fukk does that debunk?

tank sold big ppvs already and ryan is a casual superstar.. where does crawford fit in there??

and wilder and fury 1 had nothing to do with top rank. fury signed there after this fight.

what a way to strike out.. top rank was offering porter and thurman 1 million for the crawford fight even tho they gave khan and brook way more at worse times in their careers..

you're obviously not that smart.. what has been debunked is the lie that in order for you to get a fight you want you have to be signed to the same promoter.. Where does anything in your post refute that?

btw let me correct you on a few things.. Porter never petitioned the WBO for a fukking thing.. the wbo put porter at #1 and the fans including Crawford were begging porter to petition to become mando instead of ducking the mando like Virgil Ortiz did twice... the WBO went ahead on their own and made it 60-40 purse bid and named Porter mando in order for Porter to not having an excuse to turn down the mandatory.. Porter himself claimed he was suprised he was named mando even though he was ranked #1... and the fight ended up not even going to purse bid because TR gave Porter the career high payday he needed to step in the ring with Porter and niether fighter had to sign with the others promotional company


Tank an Ryan was made and Ryan didn't have to sign to PBC to get the fight made amd Tank aint have to sign to DAZN

Nobody claimed Fury was with TR... Fury was signed to Frank Warren's promotional company and had a deal with BT sports.. He also did not have to sign with PBC or showtime and vice versa with Wilder

 

[TheNig]

Please explain how Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia are better wins than Jermell and Canelo. This type of delusional shyt is why you PBC stans get clowned on so hard ......beating them guys does absolutely NOTHING for buds legacy.

These cats done bumped their fukkin heads. Keith ain't fought in two years and Garcia got a struggle win over Benevidez over a year ago. What does he prove by beating them?

Like Pat said, the only guy worth a damn is Ennis but since fools like to play the "who has he fought" game, who has he fought?

 

[baltimore]

you're obviously not that smart.. what has been debunked is the lie that in order for you to get a fight you want you have to be signed to the same promoter.. Where does anything in your post refute that?

btw let me correct you on a few things.. Porter never petitioned the WBO for a fukking thing.. the wbo put porter at #1 and the fans including Crawford were begging porter to petition to become mando instead of ducking the mando like Virgil Ortiz did twice... the WBO went ahead on their own and made it 60-40 purse bid and named Porter mando in order for Porter to not having an excuse to turn down the mandatory.. Porter himself claimed he was suprised he was named mando even though he was ranked #1... and the fight ended up not even going to purse bid because TR gave Porter the career high payday he needed to step in the ring with Porter and niether fighter had to sign with the others promotional company


Tank an Ryan was made and Ryan didn't have to sign to PBC to get the fight made amd Tank aint have to sign to DAZN

Nobody claimed Fury was with TR... Fury was signed to Frank Warren's promotional company and had a deal with BT sports.. He also did not have to sign with PBC or showtime and vice versa with Wilder

If we saying Crawford should have bet on himself he could of been in a better bracket getting here and you saying the whole pbc 147 are ducking pussies cause crawford chose the guaranteed money again what the fukk wrong with you?

Porter was going to top rank offices and shyt to get that fight.. he said it was the only way he was gonna get the spence rematch fukk you talking about?

Fury was inactive and on a binge, hadn't even been boxing and heavyweights always thin what's the surprise this got done?

Crawford wanting high ass guarantees and co promotion powers when he had no history of any of that wasn't gonna get it done. Spence had to force the fight and concede millions. All these examples were terrible. Nobody lost money on Ryan Garcia or tank

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

These cats done bumped their fukkin heads. Keith ain't fought in two years and Garcia got a struggle win over Benevidez over a year ago. What does he prove by beating them?

Like Pat said, the only guy worth a damn is Ennis but since fools like to play the "who has he fought" game, who has he fought?

That's why I can't even hate on somebody like tank who looks after himself first. These fans will never give you credit. This is why fighters stop caring about fighting the best. Cause there will always be excuses. Canelo got the best resume in the sport by far and he still gets accused of ducking. While everyone else gets a free pass to fight bums. That's why he does what he wants.

Now the same is happening with bud. It comes with the territory when you reach that level. They're gonna try to drag you down. Boxing fans can never admit they were wrong. Instead they'll just switch up the narrative to protect their ego. That Spence defeat got the PBC stanbase completely unhinged. They don't know what to believe anymore. Their entire reality got flipped on its ass July 29th. Life will never be the same.