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He really was the Golden Boy and he fought damn newer everybody in and around his weight class. So that makes it weird that he handles his fighters in the complete opposite fashion.
munguia and garcia have done a number on that rep...but remember before schaefer pulled a coup and sent fighters to haymon to form pbc...oscar was matching those fighters pretty well on their come up with the exception of wilder who might have the been the only one on kid's gloves back then....without oscar those fighters eventually stagnated or didnt develop like they should..jermell charlo being the lone exception..even after that oscar was pretty good but i think now with canelo getting out of GB he got more conservative about that
 

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munguia and garcia have done a number on that rep...but remember before schaefer pulled a coup and sent fighters to haymon to form pbc...oscar was matching those fighters pretty well on their come up with the exception of wilder who might have the been the only one on kid's gloves back then....without oscar those fighters eventually stagnated or didnt develop like they should..jermell charlo being the lone exception..even after that oscar was pretty good but i think now with canelo getting out of GB he got more conservative about that

:snoop:I forgot all about the prime Golden Boy era yea you right, Oscar legit built and developed most of the PBC roster, atleast the known fighters. I think it was you or another OG poster who used to talk about PBC not developing guys.
 

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:snoop:I forgot all about the prime Golden Boy era yea you right, Oscar legit built and developed most of the PBC roster, atleast the known fighters. I think it was you or another OG poster who used to talk about PBC not developing guys.
oh that was me lol..ive gone in on PBC so much and pretty much everything i said off rip has come to pass

nikkas can talk shyt about TR BUT they developed 3 of the biggest stars in boxing from the last 30 years in floyd, oscar, and pac

even today when you ask who and where the young promising prospects are...its TR ..they are the one signing the olympic talent off rip first with eddie like a distant second..they are actually on TV doing something even though sometimes the prelim undercards with them get tedious lol...some have gone on to win belts early....PBC was touting vito mielnicki (who they stole from TR) and joey fukking spencer whose chickens recently came home to roost..but unless you watch really closely you dont see that in PBC as much..you prolly have to think a little hard who they developed into a competent fighter since 2015....cool boy? frank martin?
 

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oh that was me lol..ive gone in on PBC so much and pretty much everything i said off rip has come to pass

nikkas can talk shyt about TR BUT they developed 3 of the biggest stars in boxing from the last 30 years in floyd, oscar, and pac

even today when you ask who and where the young promising prospects are...its TR ..they are the one signing the olympic talent off rip first with eddie like a distant second..they are actually on TV doing something even though sometimes the prelim undercards with them get tedious lol...some have gone on to win belts early....PBC was touting vito mielnicki (who they stole from TR) and joey fukking spencer whose chickens recently came home to roost..but unless you watch really closely you dont see that in PBC as much..you prolly have to think a little hard who they developed into a competent fighter since 2015....cool boy? frank martin?

Yep TR the gold standard for prospect development nowadays..they signed a bunch of young BLACK talent so one of them gots to blow and make it big. They made and even cut off Berlanga before he spoiled on the vine if it was PBC they would have still been rolling him out there to he eventually get upset by a scrub.

And with Fulton, who has been amazing so far, he should be way bigger. Top Rank would have put all the marketing into him and he would be in PFP discussion. Charlo a unified champ with barely any buzz. Look at the work they did with Bud Crawford, he is a mainstay in the PFP list with a questionable at best resume.
 

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Adrien Broner To Fight Bill Hutchinson June 9, Headline Don King PPV Show In Miami​

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BY KEITH IDEC
Published Fri Apr 21, 2023, 04:25 PM EDT
Adrien Broner will face a similar level of opposition in his debut with new promoter Don King as he was supposed to face in his February fight that was canceled.
BoxingScene.com has learned that Broner will battle Bill Hutchinson in the main event of a King pay-per-view show June 9 at Casino Miami. Their 10-round, 147-pound fight, which will take place on a Friday night, will be officially announced Saturday morning at a press conference in Las Vegas.
The 91-year-old King revealed that he signed Broner to a contract last month. Broner had long been affiliated with adviser/manager Al Haymon and the Premier Boxing Champions organization Haymon launched eight years ago.
Broner (34-4-1, 24 KOs, 1 NC) was supposed to headline a “Showtime Championship Boxing” tripleheader against Omar Figueroa Jr. (28-3-1, 19 KOs) on August 20 at Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Florida. The Cincinnati native cited mental health issues when he officially withdrew from their main event August 15.
Pittsburgh’s Hutchinson (20-2-4, 9 KOs) has won 10 fights in a row, but against nondescript opposition. Until now, the 34-year-old Hutchinson, who is a practicing attorney, had never been scheduled for more than eight rounds since he made his pro debut in April 2011.
Hutchinson last fought in January 2022, when he out-pointed Rondale Hubbert (15-25-3, 9 KOs, 2 NC) unanimously in a six-rounder at Rivers Casino in Pittsburgh.
The 33-year-old Broner was most recently scheduled to top a BLK Prime pay-per-view event February 25 at Gateway Center Arena in Atlanta. That show was scrapped on short notice after Broner’s third scheduled opponent, Michael Williams Jr., suffered a broken jaw while training to box Broner.
Williams (20-1, 13 KOs), of Fayetteville, North Carolina, was a late replacement for Philadelphia’s Hank Lundy (31-13-1, 14 KOs), who stepped in for Broner’s original opponent, Ukraine’s Ivan Redkach (23-6-1, 18 KOs, 1 NC).
Broner, who has won world titles in four weight classes, hasn’t boxed since he defeated Puerto Rico’s Jovanie Santiago (14-3-1, 10 KOs) by unanimous decision in their 12-rounder in February 2021 at Mohegan Sun Arena in Uncasville, Connecticut. The inactive Broner has fought just twice since his 12-round majority draw with Jessie Vargas five years ago today at Barclays Center in Brooklyn.
 

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Charlo a unified champ with barely any buzz. Look at the work they did with Bud Crawford, he is a mainstay in the PFP list with a questionable at best resume.
You make a great point. And it's 100% valid. But I'd add that part of that buzz is also, and has always been due to boxing politics and TR's tentacles with ESPN, Ring, European/Worldwide market etc.

Not disputing TR capacity to make stars, that's 100% accurate. But it might be harder for PBC to make household names due to the networks they have, the machine that they have/don't have.
 

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You make a great point. And it's 100% valid. But I'd add that part of that buzz is also, and has always been due to boxing politics and TR's tentacles with ESPN, Ring, European/Worldwide market etc.

Not disputing TR capacity to make stars, that's 100% accurate. But it might be harder for PBC to make household names due to the networks they have, the machine that they have/don't have.

I get what you saying but PBC had an opportunity to do the same tho. They chose to go another route with FS1, Fox, and “free tv”. Which they failed at horribly then the money dried up. Do you remember the matchups they was giving us on them free tv fights :scust: Once in a blue moon they was good other than that it was straight trash.
 

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oh that was me lol..ive gone in on PBC so much and pretty much everything i said off rip has come to pass

nikkas can talk shyt about TR BUT they developed 3 of the biggest stars in boxing from the last 30 years in floyd, oscar, and pac

even today when you ask who and where the young promising prospects are...its TR ..they are the one signing the olympic talent off rip first with eddie like a distant second..they are actually on TV doing something even though sometimes the prelim undercards with them get tedious lol...some have gone on to win belts early....PBC was touting vito mielnicki (who they stole from TR) and joey fukking spencer whose chickens recently came home to roost..but unless you watch really closely you dont see that in PBC as much..you prolly have to think a little hard who they developed into a competent fighter since 2015....cool boy? frank martin?
Morrel, Benavidez, Russell (youngest one). A lot of thier young guys got put in tough and took losses.
 
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