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PBC N Spence never wanted to make the fight but they went ahead N got all his Mandos to fall back… he’s the money man N they don’t wanna risk his 0 yet they had no fight planned besides Bud … Spence said fukking around N waiting he lost his November date

So you have a cash cow who you have zero plans for to make cash… but you don’t wanna cash out the cash cow

Yup this all makes sense … Napalm straight facts :mjlol:

This nikka is the Game of boxing with the duck tales… no boxer ever in history has sat down N talked about a fight :dead:… yea I’m sure Floyd Mayweather zero involvement in any of his deals ever:heh:


Also is Floyd broke or is he the mastermind boss of all of PBC please stay consistent
 

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No he didn't. Floyd said the fight wasn't happening in November because contracts still hadn't been signed and there wouldn't be enough time left to promote the fight.
It ain't even no point with that dude, he just gonna make his own alternative "facts" and not listen to shyt nikkas are trying to drill thru his skull
 

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Still no rebuttals to anything bud said :pachaha:


Just like there was no answers to the last time a fighter got zero guarantee for a fight of this magnitude :pachaha:


Bud Called Spence personally and he never heard back.

Asked Al Haymon TWICE to meet up in person and make a deal and Haymon declined.

Floyd himself said the fight was not happening until further down in the future.


Case closed. It’s over. The truth is out now.


Pun intended :mjgrin:




No guarantee though :mjlol:
 

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I don't think this Bud and TC fight will happen anymore :francis:
What he think Al gonna come back with if this BLK Prime PPV is a flop :francis:
Gonna end in tears :francis:
I know Bud trying to get out of the politics but siding with these guys? Hope he got some money up front :francis:
The website look like the it got all the DVDs the Chinese man couldn't sell at the barbershop where the volume keeps changing throughout the movie :francis:
Also got Top Rank decent card same day :francis:
$40 for the Bud fight :francis:
 

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I hate I gotta hear Crawford agreed to everything a million times cause if he agreed to everything then the fukkin fight would be happening..

And how he leave a negotiation agreeing to 35% split just to counter offer we both get 25 million and don't worry about the ppv backend it might flop?! While at the same time saying he took the risk? While saying Spence ain't his own boss? He agreed to everything tho.
 

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* Bud version of events would explain why the negotiations were taking so long. He's making it seem like he was doing a lot of initiating of discussion instead of PBC driving the fight. Sounds weird until you remember that back in January Tim Smith, from PBC, said Crawford wasn't a PPV fighter and they wouldn't be able to make him a respectful offer. From the very beginning PBC was dropping hints that this wasn't necessarily as big a fight to them as it was to the fans, Tim Smith literally said that actually
But from a business standpoint, it’s a fight that might excite the fans, and all these people that are out there yelling about pay-per-view, they’re not buying it anyway. They’re not gonna plop down any money to make it successful. They’re going to steal the fight, and the numbers won’t be enough to get him what he wants.
The thing that's kind of weird about this position is they are talking like it's a Terrance Crawford fight, when it's a Spence fight really with Crawford as the career highlight opponent. If splits are determined and Spence is the star they say he is who sells out 40k+ at Cowboys stadium then nit picking like you can't afford to guarantee a guy a high 7 figure guarantee is kind of strange

* The PBC fighter telling him to be careful was Shawn Porter

* The $25mil thing , even if true, is irrelevant because PBC wants to control the fight 100%. He pretty much went on to say as much with Haymon's alleged response

* Him saying Spence is not his own boss isn't controversial, Spence is on record saying he does whatever Haymon tells him because he trusts him. That's fine, and it's understandable why Crawford has this "boss" attitude now after leaving Bob Arum. Bringing up Spence success is an empty rebuttal considering boxing historically is all about shady promoters throwing big events and making a lot of money while fighters have limited transparency and control over what's going on.

* He was spot on with PBC giving him a take it or leave it type of deal knowing they had leverage to make a Keith Thurman fight in the worst case. If that fight happens , despite Spence being adamant about not wanting to do it, then you could argue it's a quality fight that might even make PBC more money than a Spence v. Crawford fight. Some people are saying thats the fight PBC wanted all along and financially it's a good argument for that
 
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* Bud version of events would explain why the negotiations were taking so long. He's making it seem like he was doing a lot of initiating of discussion instead of PBC driving the fight. Sounds weird until you remember that back in January Tim Smith, from PBC, said Crawford wasn't a PPV fighter and they wouldn't be able to make him a respectful offer. From the very beginning PBC was dropping hints that this wasn't necessarily as big a fight to them as it was to the fans, Tim Smith literally said that actually

The thing that's kind of weird about this position is they are talking like it's a Terrance Crawford fight, when it's a Spence fight really with Crawford as the career highlight opponent. If splits are determined and Spence is the star they say he is who sells out 40k+ at Cowboys stadium then nit picking like you can't afford to guarantee a guy a high 7 figure guarantee is kind of strange

* The PBC fighter telling him to be careful was Shawn Porter

* The $25mil thing , even if true, is irrelevant because PBC wants to control the fight 100%. He pretty much went on to say as much with Haymon's alleged response

* Him saying Spence is not his own boss isn't controversial, Spence is on record saying he does whatever Haymon tells him because he trusts him. That's fine, and it's understandable why Crawford has this "boss" attitude now after leaving Bob Arum. Bringing up Spence success is an empty rebuttal considering boxing historical is all about shady promoters throwing big events and making a lot of money while fighters have limited transparency and control over what's going on.

* He was spot on with PBC giving him a take it or leave it type of deal knowing they had leverage to make a Keith Thurman fight in the worst case. If that fight happens , despite Spence being adamant about not wanting to do it, then you could argue it's a quality fight that might even make PBC more money than a Spence v. Crawford fight. Some people are saying thats the fight PBC wanted all along and financially it's a good argument for that
I saw his rant...it's kind of sad he's acting like this. It really is. He's so fukking talented..he is a top 3 guy in the world despite not fighting anyone really elite at their best...
He said yes to everything but he's a fighting a bum instead, no matter what. Silly. Benavidez is BEGGING for a big name to say yes and he can't get that for shyt and this guy is playing.
 

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There is an old Chinese proverb that applies to this situation perfectly and it goes 'he who has the most to say, also has the most to hide.'
I was defending Crawford at first but you were 100% right on this. His excuse didn’t even sound right. Why would Spence/Al leave his business partners out in the wind (Showtime) to take on some unknowns for one of the biggest fights in boxing. Crawford gotta get more proffessional
 

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This fight shouldn't even be allowed for health reasons.

Why would you pay for a joke fight Floyd could win with both hands behind his back
This legit is Floyd vs a Coli Poster lmfao

At least keep it to former athletes bigger than floyd to make shyt interesting.
 
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