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You keep quoting ESPN guys who are all Crawford's close personal friends and have no relationship with the PBC at all...
Andre Ward says he loved Errol :heh: so theres that excuse out the window

since you got so much to say let me ask YOU a question

who is the fighter that said “why wouldnt i take the easier route and fight porter”


was it errol or was it bud


thats what i wanna know since you know so much
 

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Andre Ward says he loved Errol :heh: so theres that excuse out the window

since you got so much to say let me ask YOU a question

who is the fighter that said “why wouldnt i take the easier route and fight porter”


was it errol or was it bud


thats what i wanna know since you know so much
Who is the fighter who said he has moved on from the fight?

Who is the fighter who said he doesn't need Spence?

Who is the fighter who literally negotiated a whole other fight, while acting like he was negotiating another fight the whole time?

Never one time has Spence said he wouldn't fight Crawfish. Crawfish has said multiple times he doesn't want the fight.

Andre Ward is still on ESPN's payroll... as is Max Kellerman. They are doing what's in their best interest which is taking the side of the guy they who they have legal issues with.
 

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I am unbothered as hell about this. I find it hilarious ppl are going on and on about it. :pachaha:

Basically. Im only upset he took a wack ass fight instead of something interesting. If he somehow loses I wont mind at all :mjlol:
 

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Its ironic how before Crawford, no fighter has ever had purse split issues with Spence and Haymon. Spence secured Manny Pacquiao two summers ago. No purse split issues or outrageous demands for that fight, nobody even knew the fight was happening til the surprise announcement.


But Bud says they are fukking him. And decides to do a ppv on a “promoter” that does street battle type shyts. That shyt gon sell about 1032 ppvs at most. The optics here look terrible for crawford being objective
 

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Its ironic how before Crawford, no fighter has ever had purse split issues with Spence and Haymon. Spence secured Manny Pacquiao two summers ago. No purse split issues or outrageous demands for that fight, nobody even knew the fight was happening til the surprise announcement.


But Bud says they are fukking him. And decides to do a ppv on a “promoter” that does street battle type shyts. That shyt gon sell about 1032 ppvs at most. The optics here look terrible for crawford being objective
Cause Al knows there's a very good chance Spence loses to bud. That's all this is. He's never had to worry about Spence losing before. You wanna make somebody look like they're ducking send them a horrible deal they won't accept. That's a tactic as old as time.

And once again. NOBODY in here can name the last fight of this magnitude where somebody didn't get a guarantee. Every PBC stan wants to keep avoiding this shyt. We got Floyd on record 2 weeks ago saying it's not happening til later on. pbc was dragging their feet for months. Bud finally accepted that shytty deal with no guarantee. All he asked for was transparency on the event funding and they refused.

But once again nobody wants to talk about this. If you ever send somebody a contract with no guarantee you’re not serious about making a fight. Period. Al Haymon has always protected Spence from bud and this proves it. I don’t think Spence is scared. He’ll fight anybody. But his team is definitely shook.
 

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Cause Al knows there's a very good chance Spence loses to bud. That's all this is. He's never had to worry about Spence losing before. You wanna make somebody look like they're ducking send them a horrible deal they won't accept. That's a tactic as old as time.

And once again. NOBODY in here can name the last fight of this magnitude where somebody didn't get a guarantee. Every PBC stan wants to keep avoiding this shyt. We got Floyd on record 2 weeks ago saying it's not happening til later on. pbc was dragging their feet for months. Bud finally accepted that shytty deal with no guarantee. All he asked for was transparency on the event funding and they refused.

But once again nobody wants to talk about this. If you ever send somebody a contract with no guarantee you’re not serious about making a fight. Period. Al Haymon has always protected Spence from bud and this proves it. I don’t think Spence is scared. He’ll fight anybody. But his team is definitely shook.


Okay I can run with Spence ducking if were going that route. Why the fukk is Bud fighting avocado, fukk spence then. Give the fans a better fight than this bullshyt

Can you imagine how trash that undercard about to be too :mjlol:
 

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Okay I can run with Spence ducking if were going that route. Why the fukk is Bud fighting avocado, fukk spence then. Give the fans a better fight than this bullshyt

Can you imagine how trash that undercard about to be too :mjlol:
Listen I’m not gonna defend buds opponent. He shoulda picked a better guy. But he’s getting the biggest payday of his life. That’s hard to pass up :yeshrug: ……think he did it just to prove he doesn’t need pbc. most of the other top Welters are on pbc. So why would he try to make another deal with them when they just tried to do him dirty?

Truth be told pbc are the ones who need this fight more than bud. He always gets big paydays. While pbc is struggling to keep viewers. Fox is about to throw em in the bushes. Wilder don’t really sell on his own. Spence and tank are their biggest sellers and they still can’t manage to do over 250k. PBC is no position to be grimy right now. They NEED mega fights or their network will continue to collapse. They tried to be stingy with canelo too and he walked. Then everybody on here said canelo was ducking plant:mjlol: Eventually they had no choice but to drop the bag on canelo and we all know what happened next:mjgrin: …..And they’re gonna do the same with bud. It’s wild to me how pbc never gets called out on their bullshyt. A deal with no guarantee is some don king level scumbaggery.
 

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Listen I’m not gonna defend buds opponent. He shoulda picked a better guy. But he’s getting the biggest payday of his life. That’s hard to pass up :yeshrug: ……think he did it just to prove he doesn’t need pbc. most of the other top Welters are on pbc. So why would he try to make another deal with them when they just tried to do him dirty?

Truth be told pbc are the ones who need this fight more than bud. He always gets big paydays. While pbc is struggling to keep viewers. Fox is about to throw em in the bushes. Wilder don’t really sell on his own. Spence and tank are their biggest sellers and they still can’t manage to do over 250k. PBC is no position to be grimy right now. They NEED mega fights or their network will continue to collapse. They tried to be stingy with canelo too and he walked. Then everybody on here said canelo was ducking plant:mjlol: Eventually they had no choice but to drop the bag on canelo and we all know what happened next:mjgrin: …..And they’re gonna do the same with bud. It’s wild to me how pbc never gets called out on their bullshyt. A deal with no guarantee is some don king level scumbaggery.

Where is this promoter who has not promoted anything high profile getting 10 million from for a crawford vs "guy no one except boxing junkies like us"?

It sounds like absolute cap, because this shyt is not going to do well at all lol



this was probably his plan for a while now, unless you think he negotiated a 8 figure deal in a week :mjpls:
 
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It’s wild to me how pbc never gets called out on their bullshyt. A deal with no guarantee is some don king level scumbaggery.
It’s cause people like to pick n choose what they wanna call out. When it comes to Crawford they don’t care how PBC does him because in their mind this is some kinda punishment for ever signing with Top Rank. That is the only explanation because remember when Top Rank offered Porter a guaranteed $1m plus upside and these same guys we’re raising hell that a guy with 3 losses and no belt was offered that.. They claimed Bud was pricing himself out right?
Meanwhile these same people have no issue whatsoever with Bud not getting any guarantee for the biggest fight in boxing.. Like this nikka don’t have a family to feed and bills and has been waiting on a fair offer since 2021.. Then he finally gets am offer and it’s a smaller percentage than anyone Spence has fought since Mikey Garcia 4 years ago… Still no outrage from these people. It’s a real bizarre level of hatred..
 

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Who is the fighter who said he has moved on from the fight?

Who is the fighter who said he doesn't need Spence?

Who is the fighter who literally negotiated a whole other fight, while acting like he was negotiating another fight the whole time?

Never one time has Spence said he wouldn't fight Crawfish. Crawfish has said multiple times he doesn't want the fight.

Andre Ward is still on ESPN's payroll... as is Max Kellerman. They are doing what's in their best interest which is taking the side of the guy they who they have legal issues with.

Bro I'm done talking to these dudes, they dumb as hell. This man Bud has consistently stated the fight is past him. He sat up on DAZN talking about how even if they offer 50/50 he not sure he wants it anymore. Talking about how he don't need Spence all the time. Errol has been the only one always saying the fight will happen.

Errol has maintained throughout the whole process what he was doing and did everything he said he would. He told PBC to give Bud anything he want, BUD SAID HE AGREED TO EVERYTHING but sent a contract redlined back to them (meaning he lied, he did not agree) and magically struck a deal with BLK Prime within a week or two without responding to the last offer sent with everything he asked for. And did not sign...But "Errol didn't want it"..."PBC didn't want it".

I really respect how grimey Bud is at this point. He know how dumb his fans are and they run with anything he say. He conned everybody like he's been doing, robbing the bank and stealing money fighting bums. He just found a new trick who he bout to break because this event will flop. And Bud will have nowhere to go from here bc he just burned the PBC and Showtime bridge for good.

But congrats to Bud for stealing more money, this his last fight of relevance. Don't expect PBC or Errol to ever get back to the table with this lying ass nikka.

Can yall imagine if Errol said "Mannnn Bud taking too long, I'm about to go fight Alexis Rocha real quick and come back to the table". :wow:
 
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