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All Crawford and his family do is gossip and argue with people and talk shyt on Twitter. Spence keeps his mouth shut and let's business unfold how it's supposed to. Crawford and his camp should take some notes, they annoying as fukking hell and act like some primadonna divas.
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So let me get this straight...

Mike CAPpinger, someone who really doesn't have a relationship with anyone in the PBC mind you, reports two weeks ago that Spence and Crawford have agreed to all terms, IN PRINCIPLE(which means all they have to do is write up the contract at that point which shouldn't take that long because both sides are in agreement as to what they want and have compromised).

Then yesterday once again CAPpinger reports the fight is in jeapordy because Crawford's camp wants a 'transparency when it comes to spending' and they want to 'know how much Spence has made in the past'. Having had to actual go through the legal process of a business contract a few times, if Crawford is asking for this now... wouldn't that mean Crawford is holding up the fight? I mean if they had agreed in principle and they added something in extra at the 11th hour, isn't that Crawford delaying the fight? Because if they agreed in principle all of that should of already been in the picture in the first place? So are they trying to insult my intelligence, or are they just trying to strum up some views to sell advertisement. Sounds to me like eithe A. Crawford is holding up the fight or B. CAPinger was full of shyt when he reported they had agreed to all terms in principle.:jbhmm:

I'm just saying correct me if I'm wrong, or maybe just maybe people should stop listening to Mike CAPpinger who clearly doesn't know what the fukk he is talking about. That's why I didn't make the fight thread, because CAPpinger is just that FULL OF shyt. There's only like 4 people who can announce this and I'll believe it's done, Spence, Crawford, Brian Custer, Stephen Espinoza, and maybe PBCs official twitter other than that stop listening to anyone affiliated with ESPN an entity that Crawford kind of has an OPEN LAWSUIT AGAINST(he has one with Top Rank which is also ESPN by affiliation).
 

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So let me get this straight...

Mike CAPpinger, someone who really doesn't have a relationship with anyone in the PBC mind you, reports two weeks ago that Spence and Crawford have agreed to all terms, IN PRINCIPLE(which means all they have to do is write up the contract at that point which shouldn't take that long because both sides are in agreement as to what they want and have compromised).

Then yesterday once again CAPpinger reports the fight is in jeapordy because Crawford's camp wants a 'transparency when it comes to spending' and they want to 'know how much Spence has made in the past'. Having had to actual go through the legal process of a business contract a few times, if Crawford is asking for this now... wouldn't that mean Crawford is holding up the fight? I mean if they had agreed in principle and they added something in extra at the 11th hour, isn't that Crawford delaying the fight? :jbhmm:

I'm just saying correct me if I'm wrong, or maybe just maybe people should stop listening to Mike CAPpinger who clearly doesn't know what the fukk he is talking about. That's why I didn't make the fight thread, because CAPpinger is just that FULL OF shyt. There's only like 4 people who can announce this and I'll believe it's done, Spence, Crawford, Brian Custer, Stephen Espinoza, and maybe PBCs official twitter other than that stop listening to anyone affiliated with ESPN an entity that Crawford kind of has an OPEN LAWSUIT AGAINST(he has one with Top Rank which is also ESPN by affiliation).
ESPN needs shyt to report on lol they not finna see a dime from this fight and they know it
 

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ESPN needs shyt to report on lol they not finna see a dime from this fight and they know it
Dog how people can't see how full of shyt either A. Crawford and his camp or B. CAPpinger and ESPN are is what's hilarious to me. Bob Arum was right when he said boxing has some of the stupidest fans in all of sports. :mjlol:
 

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Dog how people can't see how full of shyt either A. Crawford and his camp or B. CAPpinger and ESPN are is what's hilarious to me. Bob Arum was right when he said boxing has some of the stupidest fans in all of sports. :mjlol:
Yeah, ESPN on some spill the tea bullshyt cause nothing shaking over there right now outside of tyson fury goofy ass trolling and keyshawn acting like a hoodrat on social media.

It blows my mind Manny, Danny, Ugas, Porter can do sound business with PBC to get spence but THIS fight is harder to sign a deal than Pac vs Floyd lmfao

If Spence wanted to duck he literally has a pathway to 154 wiiiiide open for him.
 

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Yeah, ESPN on some spill the tea bullshyt cause nothing shaking over there right now outside of tyson fury goofy ass trolling and keyshawn acting like a hoodrat on social media.

It blows my mind Manny, Danny, Ugas, Porter can do sound business with PBC to get spence but THIS fight is harder to sign a deal than Pac vs Floyd lmfao

If Spence wanted to duck he literally has a pathway to 154 wiiiiide open for him.
Don't do this(especially the bolded), it makes waaaay to much logical sense for some people. Not to mention all of those fights for Spence at 154 are 'in house fights'... hell with Spence status in the sport even if all the belts weren't consolidated he could get every fight he needs to go undisputed there in 12 months time. Nobody else has ever reported they had a hard time doing business with Spence... until Terence Crawford a guy who's former promoter even told you is hard to deal with... but it's all Spence's fault. :unimpressed:
 

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Don't do this(especially the bolded), it makes waaaay to much logical sense for some people. Not to mention all of those fights for Spence at 154 are 'in house fights'... hell with Spence status in the sport even if all the belts weren't consolidated he could get every fight he needs to go undisputed there in 12 months time. Nobody else has ever reported they had a hard time doing business with Spence... until Terence Crawford a guy who's former promoter even told you is hard to deal with... but it's all Spence's fault. :unimpressed:

Yeah when Max started saying Spence ducking i was like oooook these nikkas on that time.
 

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Yeah when Max started saying Spence ducking i was like oooook these nikkas on that time.
Don't be suprised when Crawford runs back to Top Rank and fights Josh Taylor. I'm telling you that's what it looks like is gonna happen.

If Spence wanted to duck he would of been moved up by now, he has already said making 147 isn't that easy for him anymore why would he stick around and wait if his intentions are to duck.

Edit: oh and they blamed Al Haymon, you know the black guy who doesn't give interviews so it's easy to just say he's the problem because they know he isn't gonna say anything in retaliation.
 

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Don't be suprised when Crawford runs back to Top Rank and fights Josh Taylor. I'm telling you that's what it looks like is gonna happen.

If Spence wanted to duck he would of been moved up by now, he has already said making 147 isn't that easy for him anymore why would he stick around and wait if his intentions are to duck.

Edit: oh and they blamed Al Haymon, you know the black guy who doesn't give interviews so it's easy to just say he's the problem because they know he isn't gonna say anything in retaliation.
TBH i dont think and i dont think ive ever called Bud a duck, but nikka is one of the worst business men ive ever seen and has literally nobody with business sense on his side.

Most of the leaks ive seen obviously came from his camp paired sith folks close to him running to social media
 

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TBH i dont think and i dont think ive ever called Bud a duck, but nikka is one of the worst business men ive ever seen and has literally nobody with business sense on his side.

Most of the leaks ive seen obviously came from his camp paired sith folks close to him running to social media
Nah Crawford aint that bad of a business man. He was getting like $4 mil guaranteed out of Bob Arum, which had a HUGE part in why nobody would fight him the past few years because he commanded so much guaranteed money they didn't have a lot of money to spend on his opponents but I just have common sense and business sense you know someone's gonna tell me I'm full of shyt(I already have an idea the two usual suspects :russ:) . The problem is now PBC doesn't work on a large guarantee up front basis and never has. Spence and Porter got $2m each guaranteed for their fight, if you're used to getting $4m upfront and get told you only getting $2m and you'll get the rest depending on how well the fight does yeah you'd probably be like :sadcam: to especially if you only had one fight per year the last two years instead of your usual two like you had it before, the man probably needs the money.
 

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I am so tired of the inadequate management that I am seeing in boxing. I really like Al a lot, but we need some of the best business minds in the game to come together to create a management team that can make these big fights. The type of team that can overcome obstacles, and are proven the way they have navigated their careers.

Where are the Winky Wrights? The Demetrius Andrade's?
 

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Devin Haney Favors Ryan Garcia Over Gervonta Davis

BY HANS THEMISTODE
Published Sat Oct 01, 2022, 01:15 PM EDT
With both Ryan Garcia and Gervonta “Tank” Davis continuing their curse-filled war of words, the two appear anxious to settle their long-standing rivalry in the ring.

Once the loquacious budding star disposed of Javier Fortuna via sixth-round stoppage during their July showdown, Garcia (23-0, 19 KOs) looked directly into the lens of the camera before calling Davis out. Unamused by his persistent need to challenge him in the public eye, Davis (27-0, 25 KOs) has met Garcia’s ambitious callouts with his own verbal threats.

As the two attempt to hammer out a deal behind the scenes, Devin Haney maintains that a lucrative bout between them is unlikely to take place next.

“I don’t think either one of them are going to fight each other,” said Haney to a group of reporters. “I would be surprised if it happens. I mean, it’s boxing, anything can happen but I would be surprised.”

Davis, 27, recently zipped shut the mouth of Rolando “Rolly” Romero, scoring a sixth-round stoppage win on May 28th, in Brooklyn’s Barclays Center. Although he has his doubts, Haney decides that he’ll play the what-if game.

For the 23-year-old undisputed lightweight champion, he contemplates and wonders how a possible showdown between both Garcia and Davis would play out. After giving it much thought, the Las Vegas, native has tallied up the strengths and weaknesses of the pair before giving his final assessment. While he ultimately has a slight idea as to who would walk away victorious, Haney, more than anything, would simply love to watch both men battle it out in the center of the ring.

“I don’t know. Right now, I’m favoring Ryan Garcia but Tank obviously has that one-punch knockout power. But Ryan does too. Ryan’s much bigger, Ryan’s faster but Tank got way more experience than him. I think that's a good ass fight.”
 
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