Tanahashi Coates
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I know but apparently Sampson is shooting for the end of the year
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I know but apparently Sampson is shooting for the end of the year
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reservoirdogs
Superstar
Still skeptical that they will actually follow through, everybody knows that they will never order Haney vs Tank or Canelo vs Morrell
If they have too much income from a fighter they will opt for rather not "bothering" them and risk to fall out of their graces over following their own rules
OGBobbyJohnson
Veteran
Anybody have the Sosa/Prince Charles rematch
chunky_mcdaniels
All Star
That’s a good assessment.
However don’t agree that Haney does everything Stevenson does.
Haney is A grade for controlling distance and the inside with clinches off the back or front foot.
Shakur is A grade for controlling distance and countering off the back or front foot.
chunky_mcdaniels
All Star
I saw a video on instagram he posted.
His face is still pretty bad.
He seemed happy he had his kids with him though. Castro tried his hardest to fukk his life up after he left again. No lie.
Yeah that fight didn't get a lot of attention it should have
Bread thinks very highly of benavidez...reading his mail bag
Look, GGG lost to a very good fighter and he was the smaller guy going up to challenge the weight class’ unified champ who younger as well. This has gotten me excited about the Ramirez Bivol fight, a Zurdo win sets up an all-Mexico throw down!!! A fight I think Zurdo wins I’ve always thought he’d be the one to upset canelo since he was the WBO smw, Zurdo best weight IMHO, personally I don’t see much of anyone beating a 168lb Ramirez, outside of SOG. He’s THAT good!! Imo of course. There’s many ppl on that Benavidez train, personally I don’t see it; David who brings volume and pressure which brings out canelos defense and counter punching. IMO David brings out a p4p performance of canelo which puts him Rt bk as the p4p#1. I’m going to play match maker here; if Zurdo wins vs Bivol I think canelo should opt for David who I think is slightly overrated due to canelo-hate. From a stylistic standpoint, I see canelo taking Davids’ reach outta the equation and taking it inside to David, I see canelo stopping him.
Personally, I, look at it, as how AND what would SOG/ward do?? I see a lot of Andre, in canelo, for this particular specific fight. I’m sure u see it too! It’s bn awhile since I’ve wrote in or even logged in but I’ve bn reading as always, I totally respect your insight and expertise and I’m very pleased with how my beloved sport is shaping up so far this year; Usyk defeating Joshua twice, the emergence of Bam Rodriguez, the progress of a potential welterweight unification that personally I don’t think happens because this is BOXING after all. I’d hate to jinx it, like they bn doing for years lol I’m no longer wound up over a hypothetical match up that most likely isn’t gonna happen but that’s fine because we also have an undisputed HEAVYWEIGHT champ on the horizon which is actually realistic.
I’m more excited about that match up , along with the super fight pitting Chocc vs Rodriguez!!! I have Chocc being too much right now and that’ll delay it from actually happening Rt away. Bam is a special, special fighter and I’m trying to imagine how choc’s legacy is enhanced by beating the upcoming champ. If bam were to beat Chocc, that’s a genuine “passing-of-the-torch “ and Roman is no slouch even if he is in the later years of his career. They both NEED the fight for their respective careers. A win by either has HUGE implications. I apologize for being negative, I’m very passionate about my boxing and I’m more excited about realistic fights actually getting made, my intrigue with welterweight ended with Pac. Thurman better get active vs these young guns if he wants a shot at divisional leaders, his name value is diminished by yrs of inactivity; I don’t get it, Thurman wasted his prime. He had those titles and he just sat on em. I think an Ennis fight would cause him a mental “crisis “ by no means am I clowning a very real epidemic, it’s a new way to duck
Bread’s Response: I’m going to respond in reverse order. I don’t know what happened with Keith Thurman but he was on his way to a HOF career. He was undefeated. He beat the leading 2 PBC welterweights besides Spence in Garcia and Porter. But he became INACTIVE during the middle of his prime. Then Lost to Pacquiao and is now sort of on the outside looking in. Not sure exactly what happened but a few years ago he was the GUY.
Bam Rodriguez is one of my favorite fighters right now. But either he had an off night or his opponent is FOR REAL. I saw Sean Gibbons in his opponent’s corner so I knew he would fight. Gibbons is one of the top eyes for talent in boxing. I still would favor Bam over Choc at this point but he would have the fight of his life on his hands. Choc is Choc.
Something else I noticed about Bam.... He was at 108lbs and he jumped up to 115lbs. It’s common in those weight divisions but Bam is not the most physically imposing fighter at 115lbs. He’s not small for the weight but he’s not a linebacker at 115lbs either. So he has to grind and hit his opponents with tons of power shots to get results. That’s something to think about when people mention him vs Inoue. There is a physicality difference at this point.
I would favor Andre Ward to defeat Canelo right now. Ward is the best fighter since Joe Calzaghe around the weight classes of 168-175. The only fighter who can challenge his supremacy is Beterbiev.
I think Gilberto Ramirez is an excellent fighter. But my eyes don’t see what you see in terms of him being better than David Benavidez. Benavidez is the truth and in my opinion he’s more talented and better than Ramirez. But I think Ramirez is live vs Bivol. Bivol is a jabber/prober and he had a huge height advantage over Canelo. Ramirez is a tall, busy southpaw which should neutralize Bivol's lead hand somewhat. I can see Bivol coming back down to earth after his Canelo performance which can be misleading because Ramirez and Canelo fight nothing alike and they’re built nothing alike. At this point I think Ramirez is also a tough fight for Canelo. But I think Benavidez would be even tougher stylistically.
Benavidez is the only fighter at 168lbs that match Canelo’s hand speed for extended combinations. David throws 5, 6, 7 punch combinations. He has an off beat jab. And he elite stamina. At one point I thought Canelo knew too much for him. But from what I just witnessed, GGG has slipped to a point where Canelo could have stopped him if he was able to step on it but he couldn’t. Canelo has over 60 fights which is rare for this era. He’s had some weight issues in the past. He looks like he could be slipping also. Canelo looks to be where GGG was when he had a tough few rounds vs Kell Brook then everyone decided to fight him.
Canelo is in tough vs Benavidez, Ramirez, Beterbiev, Bivol, Andrade and Charlo. All of those fights are extremely tough on Canelo from what I have seen out of his last 2 performances. He’s come back down to earth after his amazing run. I would not be surprised if he fights Chris Eubank next, if Eubank beats Benn. Eubank is also a good fighter but stylistically he can fight but his boxing skills are not elite. And for the type of money that Canelo demands he needs a big name. So the UK market is one he’s tapped into before multiple times. This is a business…..Ward and Canelo have similarities in terms of their temperaments and ability to rise to the occasion. Not so much their styles in my opinion..
Look, GGG lost to a very good fighter and he was the smaller guy going up to challenge the weight class’ unified champ who younger as well. This has gotten me excited about the Ramirez Bivol fight, a Zurdo win sets up an all-Mexico throw down!!! A fight I think Zurdo wins I’ve always thought he’d be the one to upset canelo since he was the WBO smw, Zurdo best weight IMHO, personally I don’t see much of anyone beating a 168lb Ramirez, outside of SOG. He’s THAT good!! Imo of course. There’s many ppl on that Benavidez train, personally I don’t see it; David who brings volume and pressure which brings out canelos defense and counter punching. IMO David brings out a p4p performance of canelo which puts him Rt bk as the p4p#1. I’m going to play match maker here; if Zurdo wins vs Bivol I think canelo should opt for David who I think is slightly overrated due to canelo-hate. From a stylistic standpoint, I see canelo taking Davids’ reach outta the equation and taking it inside to David, I see canelo stopping him.
Personally, I, look at it, as how AND what would SOG/ward do?? I see a lot of Andre, in canelo, for this particular specific fight. I’m sure u see it too! It’s bn awhile since I’ve wrote in or even logged in but I’ve bn reading as always, I totally respect your insight and expertise and I’m very pleased with how my beloved sport is shaping up so far this year; Usyk defeating Joshua twice, the emergence of Bam Rodriguez, the progress of a potential welterweight unification that personally I don’t think happens because this is BOXING after all. I’d hate to jinx it, like they bn doing for years lol I’m no longer wound up over a hypothetical match up that most likely isn’t gonna happen but that’s fine because we also have an undisputed HEAVYWEIGHT champ on the horizon which is actually realistic.
I’m more excited about that match up , along with the super fight pitting Chocc vs Rodriguez!!! I have Chocc being too much right now and that’ll delay it from actually happening Rt away. Bam is a special, special fighter and I’m trying to imagine how choc’s legacy is enhanced by beating the upcoming champ. If bam were to beat Chocc, that’s a genuine “passing-of-the-torch “ and Roman is no slouch even if he is in the later years of his career. They both NEED the fight for their respective careers. A win by either has HUGE implications. I apologize for being negative, I’m very passionate about my boxing and I’m more excited about realistic fights actually getting made, my intrigue with welterweight ended with Pac. Thurman better get active vs these young guns if he wants a shot at divisional leaders, his name value is diminished by yrs of inactivity; I don’t get it, Thurman wasted his prime. He had those titles and he just sat on em. I think an Ennis fight would cause him a mental “crisis “ by no means am I clowning a very real epidemic, it’s a new way to duck
Bread’s Response: I’m going to respond in reverse order. I don’t know what happened with Keith Thurman but he was on his way to a HOF career. He was undefeated. He beat the leading 2 PBC welterweights besides Spence in Garcia and Porter. But he became INACTIVE during the middle of his prime. Then Lost to Pacquiao and is now sort of on the outside looking in. Not sure exactly what happened but a few years ago he was the GUY.
Bam Rodriguez is one of my favorite fighters right now. But either he had an off night or his opponent is FOR REAL. I saw Sean Gibbons in his opponent’s corner so I knew he would fight. Gibbons is one of the top eyes for talent in boxing. I still would favor Bam over Choc at this point but he would have the fight of his life on his hands. Choc is Choc.
Something else I noticed about Bam.... He was at 108lbs and he jumped up to 115lbs. It’s common in those weight divisions but Bam is not the most physically imposing fighter at 115lbs. He’s not small for the weight but he’s not a linebacker at 115lbs either. So he has to grind and hit his opponents with tons of power shots to get results. That’s something to think about when people mention him vs Inoue. There is a physicality difference at this point.
I would favor Andre Ward to defeat Canelo right now. Ward is the best fighter since Joe Calzaghe around the weight classes of 168-175. The only fighter who can challenge his supremacy is Beterbiev.
I think Gilberto Ramirez is an excellent fighter. But my eyes don’t see what you see in terms of him being better than David Benavidez. Benavidez is the truth and in my opinion he’s more talented and better than Ramirez. But I think Ramirez is live vs Bivol. Bivol is a jabber/prober and he had a huge height advantage over Canelo. Ramirez is a tall, busy southpaw which should neutralize Bivol's lead hand somewhat. I can see Bivol coming back down to earth after his Canelo performance which can be misleading because Ramirez and Canelo fight nothing alike and they’re built nothing alike. At this point I think Ramirez is also a tough fight for Canelo. But I think Benavidez would be even tougher stylistically.
Benavidez is the only fighter at 168lbs that match Canelo’s hand speed for extended combinations. David throws 5, 6, 7 punch combinations. He has an off beat jab. And he elite stamina. At one point I thought Canelo knew too much for him. But from what I just witnessed, GGG has slipped to a point where Canelo could have stopped him if he was able to step on it but he couldn’t. Canelo has over 60 fights which is rare for this era. He’s had some weight issues in the past. He looks like he could be slipping also. Canelo looks to be where GGG was when he had a tough few rounds vs Kell Brook then everyone decided to fight him.
Canelo is in tough vs Benavidez, Ramirez, Beterbiev, Bivol, Andrade and Charlo. All of those fights are extremely tough on Canelo from what I have seen out of his last 2 performances. He’s come back down to earth after his amazing run. I would not be surprised if he fights Chris Eubank next, if Eubank beats Benn. Eubank is also a good fighter but stylistically he can fight but his boxing skills are not elite. And for the type of money that Canelo demands he needs a big name. So the UK market is one he’s tapped into before multiple times. This is a business…..Ward and Canelo have similarities in terms of their temperaments and ability to rise to the occasion. Not so much their styles in my opinion..
Mayweather vs. Asakura start time, TV schedule for Floyd Mayweather vs. Mikuru Asakura
"Mayweather vs. Asakura start time and TV schedule for the Mayweather vs. Mikuru Asakura fight card at Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan, on Saturday night.
The fight card is broken into two different parts and airs on FITE TV pay-per-view. This post will help explain which fights are airing where and at which times.
The event kicks off with Super Rizin 38 featuring a three-bout card headlined by the Mayweather vs. Asakura exhibition that begins at 11 p.m. ET on FITE TV pay-per-view. The Mayweather vs. Asakura ring walks are expected to take place around 1 a.m. ET.
The Super Rizin fight card is as follows:
Floyd Mayweather vs. Mikuru Asakura - boxing
Kouzi vs. Jizzy Mack - boxing
Nadaka Yoshinari vs. Bandasak So Trakunpet - kickboxing (elbows allowed)
Kota Miura vs. Bunchuai Phonsungnoen - special MMA rules"
Floyd robbing them Japanese banks again
*Edit - Floyd's fight is a 3 round exhibition*
"Mayweather vs. Asakura start time and TV schedule for the Mayweather vs. Mikuru Asakura fight card at Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan, on Saturday night.
The fight card is broken into two different parts and airs on FITE TV pay-per-view. This post will help explain which fights are airing where and at which times.
The event kicks off with Super Rizin 38 featuring a three-bout card headlined by the Mayweather vs. Asakura exhibition that begins at 11 p.m. ET on FITE TV pay-per-view. The Mayweather vs. Asakura ring walks are expected to take place around 1 a.m. ET.
The Super Rizin fight card is as follows:
Floyd Mayweather vs. Mikuru Asakura - boxing
Kouzi vs. Jizzy Mack - boxing
Nadaka Yoshinari vs. Bandasak So Trakunpet - kickboxing (elbows allowed)
Kota Miura vs. Bunchuai Phonsungnoen - special MMA rules"
Floyd robbing them Japanese banks again
*Edit - Floyd's fight is a 3 round exhibition*
