Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

patscorpio

It's a movement
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
120,746
Reputation
11,715
Daps
250,234
Reppin
MA/CT/Nigeria #byrdgang #RingGangRadio
upload_2022-3-7_12-11-28.png


:mjgrin:
 
  • Dap
Reactions: L68

theflyest

Veteran
Joined
Jun 17, 2012
Messages
26,788
Reputation
1,435
Daps
67,131
Reppin
NULL
None were bigger wins than Canelo wins over ggg or Kovalev.. you can even throw in Plant too since that was another competitive fight for undisputed.. Nobody looked at Floyd vs Guerrero or Ortiz as some significant big wins nor were they coming off big wins... If beating Andre Berto is a "big win" to you then cool we can just agree to disagree on that.. To me that wasn't a bigger win than ggg beating Danny Jacobs "in real time"
Yes there was a point in time where Berto might have had next but the verdict was still out.. When he went life n death with bum ass Victor Ortiz that was settled in my mind that he wasn't really shyt.. when Guerrero whipped him that shoulda confirmed it for everybody.. I guess not everybody since we got nikkas dikkriding Floyd by proxy by boosting regular ass Ortiz vs Berto as some great win..

And no.. Bradley vs Devon was a good win.. A decent win.. A "big win".Nope.. especially considering Bradley won by headbutt

I never said Floyd beating Guerrero or Ortiz was a big win. I said they came off a big win to earn the fight,

And yes, Bradley beating Devon was a big win at the time. 2 undefeated fighters on a collision course. There you go diminishing another win by saying Bradley won by head but. Just a weirdo. We will agree to disagree.

And no this isn’t attempt to boost Floyd’s resume. YOUR the one that STANS fighters. I don’t even think Ortiz or Guerrero are better then the Canelo opponents mentioned. I do think Floyd fought them at the peak of their popularity and they had a storyline, which drove both fights past a million buys. Floyd understood how to select the right b sides to sell tickets/ppvs.

I’ve already have several people that view me as the “boxing guy” asking who the fukk is Bivol
 
Last edited:

patscorpio

It's a movement
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
120,746
Reputation
11,715
Daps
250,234
Reppin
MA/CT/Nigeria #byrdgang #RingGangRadio
random 2 things about this back and forth about floyd and canelo and whatnot as i have no dog in that argument lol

its funny to me to read that triple gawd beating danny jacobs is being seen as a positive..in an argument for canelo..when in real time on here nikkas (esp if you were a canelo stan) were furious and butt hurt it happened :dead:....saying GGG got washed..all types of nonsense..i think i caught a neg or two for dropping additional truths :mjgrin:

on the other hand...ghost vs floyd was a whole bunch of :unimpressed:...a lot of floyd stans were really propping this fight and win as significant for him in real time (thanks to bum ass berto :scust:)..but then you saw ghost's true level as welter shortly after
upload_2022-3-7_14-18-59.png


its not so good :pachaha:
 

FreedMind

DOPAMINE FOR MY BABY!!
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
13,543
Reputation
3,919
Daps
48,028
Reppin
your stars are but dust on my shoes
I never said Floyd beating Guerrero or Ortiz was a big win. I said they came off a big win to earn the fight,

And yes, Bradley beating Devon was a big win at the time. 2 undefeated fighters on a collision course. There you go diminishing another win by saying Bradley won by head but. Just a weirdo. We will agree to disagree.

And no this isn’t attempt to boost Floyd’s resume. YOUR the one that STANS fighters. I don’t even think Ortiz or Guerrero are better then the Canelo opponents mentioned. I do think Floyd fought them at the peak of their popularity and they had a storyline, which drove both fights past a million buys. Floyd understood how to select the right b sides to sell tickets/ppvs.

I’ve already have several people that view me as the “boxing guy” asking who the fukk is Bivol

For what it's worth, the 175lbs division doesn't have much fanfare to begin with.:yeshrug:

Even Beterbiev is likely to be unknown by the masses at large, despite being the #1 guy with an exciting style.
 

theflyest

Veteran
Joined
Jun 17, 2012
Messages
26,788
Reputation
1,435
Daps
67,131
Reppin
NULL
random 2 things about this back and forth about floyd and canelo and whatnot as i have no dog in that argument lol

its funny to me to read that triple gawd beating danny jacobs is being seen as a positive..in an argument for canelo..when in real time on here nikkas (esp if you were a canelo stan) were furious and butt hurt it happened :dead:....saying GGG got washed..all types of nonsense..i think i caught a neg or two for dropping additional truths :mjgrin:

on the other hand...ghost vs floyd was a whole bunch of :unimpressed:...a lot of floyd stans were really propping this fight and win as significant for him in real time (thanks to bum ass berto :scust:)..but then you saw ghost's true level as welter shortly after
View attachment 32018

its not so good :pachaha:

Guerrero is a bum, but you’re making the same mistake as your boy. You’re diminishing the win based on how his career ended. You can do this shyt for any fighter, because the majority of their careers end this way.

It would be like someone saying Calzaghe beating Jeff Lacy was a good win, and then some boxrec nygga comes in and shows all the L’s the Jeff Lacy went on to receive. Boxing is about real time. If you’re relying on boxrec as your only guide, then you’re missing the full context.

I do respect how Guerrero was at 135, said he wanted to fight Floyd, and marched all the way to 147 and put himself in position to make it happen. It definitely wasn’t a major win for Floyd he did what he was suppose to do.
 

Black_Jesus

Superstar
Joined
May 21, 2012
Messages
16,268
Reputation
728
Daps
21,233
Reppin
from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
random 2 things about this back and forth about floyd and canelo and whatnot as i have no dog in that argument lol

its funny to me to read that triple gawd beating danny jacobs is being seen as a positive..in an argument for canelo..when in real time on here nikkas (esp if you were a canelo stan) were furious and butt hurt it happened :dead:....saying GGG got washed..all types of nonsense..i think i caught a neg or two for dropping additional truths :mjgrin:

on the other hand...ghost vs floyd was a whole bunch of :unimpressed:...a lot of floyd stans were really propping this fight and win as significant for him in real time (thanks to bum ass berto :scust:)..but then you saw ghost's true level as welter shortly after
View attachment 32018

its not so good :pachaha:
The thing is.. Im not even trying to prop up ggg win over Jacobs like that. Im just comparing it...
Robert Guerrero and Ortiz beating Berto to me isn't any more significant a win than ggg beating Jacobs... and when it's all said and done it's all an attempt to prop up Floyds weaker selection of opponents at 147 by trying to diminish another fighters opponents.. They did it with Pacquiao.. now they doing the same with Canelo
 

mr. smoke weed

Smoke Album Done......Wait n See #SmokeSquad
Resting in Peace
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
27,315
Reputation
3,820
Daps
52,066
Reppin
Chi
Lol. He'd rather fight a dude with no belts who Teo already smoked, who literally forfeited the last piece of the puzzle to Haney, rather than to go thru Haney himself for undisputed.

Any fight fan with 2 eyes nd a fully functioning brain knows Kambosos isn't really nice like that. You didn't even know who TF he was before the Teo fight. Now he has something to lose that ppl want, and is in a position to avoid who he wants to. He's doing just that.

But nah Let's pretend Haney isn't the longest running champ at 135 and the most avoided in the division for years.
Teo is the best win on either of their records by a large amount.
 

mr. smoke weed

Smoke Album Done......Wait n See #SmokeSquad
Resting in Peace
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
27,315
Reputation
3,820
Daps
52,066
Reppin
Chi
Yes all his opponents during the Money May era came off “big wins” in the WW division, or in Cotto’s & Canelo’s case, the LMW division.

I completely understand why you don’t view them as big wins. If you weren’t around when Berto was suppose to be that next dude, I can see why Ortiz/Guerrero beating Berto was not a big win. Let’s just look out how his career turned out. Same thing as you not viewing Marquez beating Diaz as a big win.

I got a question? Is Bradley beating Devon Alexander a big win? I’m curious, or are we just gonna go to boxrec and see how his career fizzled out?
Berto didn't have next for at least 2 or 3 years before losing to Floyd. He maybe had next in 2011?
 

theflyest

Veteran
Joined
Jun 17, 2012
Messages
26,788
Reputation
1,435
Daps
67,131
Reppin
NULL
Berto didn't have next for at least 2 or 3 years before losing to Floyd. He maybe had next in 2011?

Please read my previous posts. I said with the EXCEPTION of Berto, Floyd fought guys coming off a big win in their career. The Berto that Floyd fought in 2015 was a cherry-pick just to fulfill his obligations with showtime.

And yes, the timeframe where Berto was hyped to be that guy was before he lost the Ortiz fight. He had another opportunity to potentially land the Floyd fight in 2012 and loss yet again.
 
Top