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[King]

He's not the head trainer. Looks like he's a coordinator now more than anything. Him throwing Breland under the bus immediately after the fight was some sucker shyt. I think Wilder probably keeps him on out of loyalty. But I don't think he has much to do with anything now that Malik Scott has taken over.

...Honestly watching Wilder with Scott makes me think these dudes really weren't training Wilder at all

Breland was a yes man. Dude has low self esteem and couldn’t stand his ground as a trainer. If like he said, if he couldn’t train Wilder why was he there collecting a check getting paid for keeping him complacent?

He also had explicit instructions not to throw in the towel. If he had actually done his job as a trainer his guilt over not properly preparing Wilder wouldn’t have overidden those explicit instructions.

Wilder has literally said on multiple occasions he wanted to die in the ring before he gave up, that’s just how some fighters think.

Same reason he kept Jay was because Wilder is loyal to a failt, if Mark didn’t throw in that towel he’d still be training him rn.

 

[Rain]

Malik Scott was a yes man. Dude has low self esteem and couldn’t stand his ground as a trainer. If like he said, if he couldn’t train Wilder why was he there collecting a check getting paid for keeping him complacent?

He also had explicit instructions not to throw in the towel. If he had actually done his job as a trainer his guilt over not properly preparing Wilder wouldn’t have overidden those explicit instructions.

Wilder has literally said on multiple occasions he wanted to die in the ring before he gave up, that’s just how some fighters think.

Same reason he kept Jay was because Wilder is loyal to a failt.

You mean Breland?

 

[King]

You mean Breland?

Yeah I was editing my post at the time forgot to take that part out

 

[patscorpio]

Damn so no way an undisputed HW fight happens this year.

 

[Rain]

Yeah I was editing my post at the time forgot to take that part out

Yeah I'm not really disputing any of that. I just think it was some dumb shyt to air that shyt publicly immediately after the fight. Wilder ear hadn't even stopped bleeding yet and Jay was already looking to save his job

"Nah I didn't throw that fukking towel in. That was him "

 

[King]

Yeah I'm not really disputing any of that. I just think it was some dumb shyt to air that shyt publicly immediately after the fight. Wilder ear hadn't even stopped bleeding yet and Jay was already looking to save his job

"Nah I didn't throw that fukking towel in. That was him "

Yeah I misread what you wrote. Wilder really had a bad team behind him. I really don’t like Jay he seems like such an amateur trainer. Wilder is way above his pay grade at this point.

I really lost all respect for Jay when he was saying shyt like “we don’t need fundamentals, wilder has that right hand, we just do the bare minimum”

I was like it’s your fukking job to teach him this shyt, fukk his right hand a skilled enough boxer with the right attributes can always plan around that.

Wilder could be in another league, possibly the greatest boxer of this generation, if he wasn’t so loyal to those two. Imagine if he’d been working with some real ass trainers, ever since the Olympics, hell even a few years ago when he had got some instruction by Lennox he was picking shyt up like a sponge.

I believe Lennox even offered to be apart of his camp for this rematch. But he chose Malik instead, sometimes you can be a loyal to a fault.

It’s embarrassing sometimes watching Wilder make elementary mistakes. I get breh has a right hand but this is boxing that Fury shyt woulda never happened had he had all his skills down.

We’ll see tho, still rooting for him. But as for legacy I’m kinda iffy he’s essentially fukked trying to learn fundamental shyt at this stage, he can’t keep taking L’s

 

[aceboon]

He's not the head trainer. Looks like he's a coordinator now more than anything. Him throwing Breland under the bus immediately after the fight was some sucker shyt. I think Wilder probably keeps him on out of loyalty. But I don't think he has much to do with anything now that Malik Scott has taken over.

...Honestly watching Wilder with Scott makes me think those dudes really weren't training Wilder at all

Its just padwork, but I never saw Wilder mixing it up with body attacks, movement and shot selection with Breland/Deas like we've seen with Scott.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Charlo


There’s no defending that reaction

 

[FreedMind]

 

[Rain]

Damn so no way an undisputed HW fight happens this year.

Look at it this way. When Fury loses to Wilder and AJ loses Usyk and then exercises his rematch clause, it wasn't gonna happen this year anyway

Its just padwork, but I never saw Wilder mixing it up with body attacks, movement and shot selection with Breland/Deas like we've seen with Scott.

That's what I'm saying. I went back and looked at some padwork footage with Wilder/Breland and Wilder legit looked confused about what he was supposed to do

 

[King]

Its just padwork, but I never saw Wilder mixing it up with body attacks, movement and shot selection with Breland/Deas like we've seen with Scott.

He’s telegraphing the hell out of his slips tho and he’s bending at his lower back when he’s rolling hooks. Jab looking stronger and he’s lighter on his feet which is good tho. They still have a lot of work to do, especially on defense. I just hope Malik doesn’t get complacent like Mark did.

He has a specific job to do, it’s great that they have chemistry but damn I really want Wilder to improve and be the best. Wilder made so many mistakes in Fury 2 that I legit could only watch it once.

I still think that even now Wilder could wash Fury and really knock him out this time. He’s been doing nothing but coke and booze since the last fight, no real drive coming from him anymore.

 

[patscorpio]

Look at it this way. When Fury loses to Wilder and AJ loses Usyk and then exercises his rematch clause, it wasn't gonna happen this year anyway

I'm not making any predictions on those 2 fights...I'll leave them up to the will of the boxing gods...but let it be known if it's not Fury vs Joshua for those belts...expect the same he said he said bullshyt

 

[patscorpio]

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Charlo


There’s no defending that reaction

I swear them nikkas must practice being unlikable.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Joshua loses on points.