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bread mentioning triller and jake paul

I saw your back and forth on Twitter about the Triller Show. I know you’re purist but you have to admit it’s entertaining as hell. On top of that it is giving real fighters a platform which is always good. Also what do you think of Jake Paul as a fighter?

Bread’s Response: Twitter doesn’t have enough room for me to always get my point across. I have no issue with TRILLER. I have an issue with people in boxing criticizing TRILLER when boxing is the reason why TRILLER has emerged. They call TRILLER a “circus” but if “boxing” delivered the demand the purist and casuals wanted, TRILLER would not be as popular. In boxing we always get the consolation prize. The “good” fight that no one was really asking for but we will accept, instead of the Super Fight. Instead of our Super Bowl.

Over the last say decade we simply didn’t get that fight often enough and now a new platform has ascended because of it. Just think about it. We didn’t get Gamboa vs Lopez. We didn’t get Joshua vs Wilder. We didn’t get Stevenson vs Kovalev. We didn’t get GGG vs a Top 3 guy until 2017!!! No Spence vs Crawford as of yet. No Rigo vs any elite 122lber except Donaire and there was Mares, Santa Cruz, Frampton and Quigg all there. We didn’t get Donaire vs Mares. No Andrade vs Charlo. We haven’t got any of the new “Four Kings” to fight each other just once! This is just off the top of my head. I can literally name 50 fights over the last decade that would have made sense for money and legacy. So now you have boxing people complaining about what Triller is doing. Why, we did this to ourselves!

There was a show called KO Nation back in the day on HBO. Triller has a similar vibe to it. Floyd Mayweather fought Emanuel Augustus on this show. It was different from Boxing After Dark and HBO Championship Boxing. Look at that format on youtube and you will see what I’m talking about. I’m not mad at TRILLER one bit. They bought Teofimo Lopez vs George Kamboose. That’s a real fight and Lopez is a P4P. I’m sorry if you misunderstood me.

Peter Khan is a big part of TRILLER and I think he’s an awesome “boxing guy”. He’s very smart and influential. I consider him a colleague.

I think Jake Paul may look like someone who doesn’t take boxing serious but he does. I think he has natural “fighting” skills. I knew guys where I grew up who didn’t have the discipline to be boxers at an early age. They were playing other sports. They drank and chased girls. But they could “fight”. They could slap box in the street. They could street fight. They had the right temperament and reflexes. The inner cities are filled with kids like that. They aren’t boxers but they’re fighters. I don’t where Paul grew up but I’ve seen his type before.I think Jake Paul is one of those guys. I suspect he’s a guy who has had his share of street fights. I suspect that he’s won more than he’s lost. I think with his position of being able to pick any opponent he wants. I think he’s going ko some foolish guys who take the bait and assume he’s some clown who can’t fight. He can fight. He may not be a world class “boxer” but for the level of fighter he can face, he’s going to spark them guys out. It may be funny to people on the outside. But it’s not funny to those poor guys he’s koing. Whoever fights him next has to be careful because the people behind him know what they’re doing as far as who they are picking.
 

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Vasiliy Lomachenko-Masayoshi Nakatani Finalized For June 26 At Virgin Hotels Las Vegas
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BY JAKE DONOVAN
Published Sat Apr 24, 2021, 07:38 PM EDT


Vasiliy Lomachenko is set to return and isn’t looking for a soft touch to work his way back into the mix.

The former three-division titlist and pound-for-pound entrant is confirmed to next face Japan’s Masayoshi Nakatani. The bout will take place June 26, live on an ESPN platform from Virgin Hotels Las Vegas.

Confirmation of the date and venue was made on air by ESPN’s Mark Kriegel during an ESPN+ boxing telecast. The same location will also host the undisputed junior welterweight championship between undefeated and unified titlists Jose Carlos Ramirez (WBC/WBO titles; 26-0, 17KOs) and Josh Taylor (WBA/IBF; 17-0, 13KOs) on May 22.

Ukraine’s Lomachenko (14-2, 10KOs) fights for the first time since ending his unified lightweight title reign in a 12-round unanimous decision defeat to Teofimo Lopez (16-0, 12KOs) in their WBA/IBF/WBO unification bout last October at MGM Grand Conference Center in Las Vegas. The setback marked Lomachenko’s first loss since his second pro fight, when the two-time Olympic Gold medalist came up just short versus Orlando Salido in a featherweight title bid back in March 2014.

The setback versus Lopez was a bitter pill to swallow for Lomachenko, who subsequently went under the knife to surgically repair his right shoulder. The 33-year-old southpaw is fully healed, having also moved past a litany of excuses—many of which he insisted were lost in translation from interviews conducted in his native language—to embark on what he hopes is another title run.

Nakatani (19-1-1, 13KOs) fights for the first time since a thrilling come-from-behind 9th round knockout of Puerto Rico’s Felix Verdejo last December, which also took place at the MGM bubble. The 5’11½” was down twice in the bout and trailing by scores of 77-74, 78-72 and 78-72 before twice dropping Verdejo in the ninth round to produce the upset knockout win. The bout was hailed by many outlets as among the best of 2020.

It was also a huge bounce back victory for Nakatani, who 15 months prior suffered his lone career defeat. It came in a hard-fought 12-round decision to Brooklyn’s Lopez, who won his first lightweight title one fight later in a 2nd round knockout of Richard Commey, The clash versus Lomachenko will mark the third straight in the United States for Nakatani after having previously fought exclusively in Japan.

Jake Donovan is a senior writer for BoxingScene.com. Twitter: @JakeNDaBox
 

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We need some announcements this week.

-Can we get the Errol vs Ugas or Manny fight announced and some type of FOX schedule?

-Can we get the Fury/Joshua fight official?

-Can we get Bud vs whoever announced or some type of Top Rank schedule? Loma vs Nakatani is a good start.

That’s all it will take to get me hyped again.

Is my bar low or am I just a battered boxing fan. I’m glad that Showtime announced their sched yet this void is painful. We need more clarity.
 
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