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[ChocolateGiddyUp]

nah breh you dont need to wait that long... i see it now lol...but but but we are getting spence vs ugas ..fukking casuals

I don’t give af about Ugas N think he’s mid af...

BUT aren’t you the unify all the belts N you’re moving right guy?? All of the belts :smugGGG: right??


nikkas was with FaceTime Favors Soulja Boy crying when Bud beat Idongo ... but Spence fighting Ugas = fukking casuals

 

[patscorpio]

I don’t give af about Ugas N think he’s mid af...

BUT aren’t you the unify all the belts N you’re moving right guy?? All of the belts :smugGGG: right??


nikkas was with FaceTime Favors Soulja Boy crying when Bud beat Idongo ... but Spence fighting Ugas = fukking casuals

youre one of the nikkas who thinks this welterweight era isnt trash..im not surprised at this response

 

[malbaker86]

welterweights

This shyt big goofy. Everyone knows that PBC 147’s need to get a move on it and if any of them retired TODAY they not getting in the HOF. Ion think anyone said anything different. And his voice annoys me to no end as well.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

youre one of the nikkas who thinks this welterweight era isnt trash..im not surprised at this response

damn I didn’t even get a juelz response


The Ugas fight is trash... Now I’m glad we can agree belt collecting off of trash nikkas still = trash nikkas on the resume ... I’ll be looking forward to having you on my side with the subject in the future

 

[patscorpio]

damn I didn’t even get a juelz response


The Ugas fight is trash... Now I’m glad we can agree belt collecting off of trash nikkas still = trash nikkas on the resume ... I’ll be looking forward to having you on my side with the subject in the future

its not the belt collecting

its the fact that arguably the best fight in boxing cant be made (which is a L all around)...and within each fighters promotions the best fight cant be made so we are left with spence vs ugas

if this was a one off where 147 was getting down like 115, id go whatever but 147 definitely does not have that luxury

 

[The axe murderer]

its not the belt collecting

its the fact that arguably the best fight in boxing cant be made (which is a L all around)...and within each fighters promotions the best fight cant be made so we are left with spence vs ugas

if this was a one off where 147 was getting down like 115, id go whatever but 147 definitely does not have that luxury

In the same
fukking
Division
This ain't like the klitschko brothers where you can understand they won't fight each other because there is no love lost here

 

[patscorpio]

This shyt big goofy. Everyone knows that PBC 147’s need to get a move on it and if any of them retired TODAY they not getting in the HOF. Ion think anyone said anything different. And his voice annoys me to no end as well.

 

[patscorpio]

In the same
fukking
Division
This ain't like the klitschko brothers where you can understand they won't fight each other because there is no love lost here

im ready for a new batch of welterweights..this era is done to me

 

[The axe murderer]

im ready for a new batch of welterweights..this era is done to me

Good fukking riddens when it goes. Couldn't be soon enough

 

[malbaker86]

i know thats ironic coming from a dude from the south, Florida no less, but shyt lol.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Mosley - past it
Kirkland - past it and no Wolfe
Jacobs - competitive/ clear win but Jacobs took like 5 rds in the 2nd half
Trout - competitive/damn near a draw since Canelo barely did fukk all in the 2nd half
Lara - competitive/ could have gone either way...I had Canelo winning clear, but Lara still took like 5 rds from dude. Hell, at least the 1st 4.
Floyd - fukking loss

Those are the 6 black boxers of note that Canelo has faced. Its easy to see why Bud said what he said. The only black fighters Canelo has dominated were past it. Dude struggles or barely beats nikkas when they in their prime.

Saying Canelo struggles with black fighters is a fukking fact when you look at the fights objectively.

at the end of the day, its just coming from the wrong person cuz we been waiting for Bud to step it up since Canelo beat Trout.

I like Bud but that was a bs, he said Canelo shies away from black fighters, that's just not true at all

Styles make fights not races. You can make a comparison between Lara's, Trout's and Floyd's styles, the ones that made it very hard for Canelo or in Floyd's case beat him. Jacobs and Mosley were rather a boxer-puncher, Kirkland an all out brawler who would have been KOd with or w/o Wolfe, in or out of his prime imo.

From the mentioned two, Andrade is more of the style that used to give Canelo major problems, Charlo isn't that slick, being hard to hit is not one of his main strengths. He is tough, has great counters and a ramrod jab but not super hard to hit clean. So the whole thing about Canelo avoiding Andrade and Charlo because they are black doesn't make a sense to me. He's been fought a number of black fighters in his career, I don't see the pattern of him avoiding them and Charlo and Andrade don't even fight alike.

 

[malbaker86]

im ready for a new batch of welterweights..this era is done to me

now this i cosign.

but here’s the thing, it’s probably going to be some of the same shyt now because 135-140 (wel not 140, they be scrapping) slowly trying to act like the 147 division.

 

[malbaker86]

I like Bud but that was a bs, he said Canelo shies away from black fighters, that's just not true at all

Styles make fights not races. You can make a comparison between Lara's, Trout's and Floyd's styles, the ones that made it very hard for Canelo or in Floyd's case beat him. Jacobs and Mosley were rather a boxer-puncher, Kirkland an all out brawler who would have been KOd with or w/o Wolfe, in or out of his prime imo.

From the mentioned two, Andrade is more of the style that used to give Canelo major problems, Charlo isn't that slick, being hard to hit is not one of his main strengths. He is tough, has great counters and a ramrod jab but not super hard to hit clean. So the whole thing about Canelo avoiding Andrade and Charlo because they are black doesn't make a sense to me. He's been fought a number of black fighters in his career, I don't see the pattern of him avoiding them and Charlo and Andrade don't even fight alike.

this. Like who in the mid to late 2010’s did he avoid that was black? Andrede was at 154 ducking Charlo his damn self and Charlo had his eyes on other cats. Hell be STILL moving funny to this day but nobody puts their foot on Charlo neck to beef up his resume. He getting no smoke for trying to make a fight with a past it GGG

 

[patscorpio]

now this i cosign.

but here’s the thing, it’s probably going to be some of the same shyt now because 135-140 (wel not 140, they be scrapping) slowly trying to act like the 147 division.

also a possibility lol..but yeah there is only so many times you can excuse 147 for not getting its shyt together

on the pbc side - it was suppose to be thurman vs spence for 3 belts - but since them nikkas had beef - that fight never took place..thurman loses one belt to injury or whatever and its won by porter....thurman loses the other belt and his zero to an old pacquiao ...making this WW era funny in the light...now porter vs spence unification unexpectedly turned out to be FOTY caliber..then spence does something foolish shortly after which almost ends his career and holds up the division...then covid hits

on the non pbc side - pacquiao vs crawford should have been a passing of the torch type thing but never happened because of BS..pacquiao is a victim of the australian screwjob against jeff horn and gets his WBO belt took because arum couldn't let him leave TR with that belt..horn is then pummeled by crawford and that is where we are with him

youd think with all this shyt..they would want to come together and make the fight sooner than later...nope lets do more posturing in the media and wonder why there are no big fights among american fighters or involving one (if you have this mentality) in boxing today that people care about

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I like Bud but that was a bs, he said Canelo shies away from black fighters, that's just not true at all

Styles make fights not races. You can make a comparison between Lara's, Trout's and Floyd's styles, the ones that made it very hard for Canelo or in Floyd's case beat him. Jacobs and Mosley were rather a boxer-puncher, Kirkland an all out brawler who would have been KOd with or w/o Wolfe, in or out of his prime imo.

From the mentioned two, Andrade is more of the style that used to give Canelo major problems, Charlo isn't that slick, being hard to hit is not one of his main strengths. He is tough, has great counters and a ramrod jab but not super hard to hit clean. So the whole thing about Canelo avoiding Andrade and Charlo because they are black doesn't make a sense to me. He's been fought a number of black fighters in his career, I don't see the pattern of him avoiding them and Charlo and Andrade don't even fight alike.

You not black so of course you wouldn't understand, how black fighters naturally just do certain styles better. If that wasn't true, we'd have more Calzaghes popping up.

Canelo having not fought neither guy yet just proves my point when you look at my breakdown and me nor Bud said Canelo is ducking black fighters. He just avoiding two that would pose big problems physically and stylistically for years through 2 divisions.

Just look at the gap in time from Lara/Kirkland fights to the Jacobs fight. Damn near 5 years. During that period he fought 6x and the only good fights we got out of that were Cotto and GGG 2x. So basically Canelo had no time to squeeze in a fight with a black boxer (Andrade/Charlos) during that time. I guess he just had to pick on UK fighters instead.

Ironically the same pattern is repeating itself now. Beats Jacobs in a competitive fight in 2019 and goes right back to the Euro diet, although this time around the UK tour has a bit more substance, but its a pattern nonetheless.

Whenever Canelo has to avoid Andrade or Charlos, he starts going on his UK tour. It is what it is so